The Antifa Thread

[FireKrakouer]

Trump's candidacy animated these people. David Duke, Spencer and many other groups loved what he was saying.

Trump re-tweeted an account called 'white genocide' which pushed the conspiracy.

You seem to keep yourself well researched when it comes to prominent white supremacists. Can you explain to the thread whether or not these individuals are still Trump supporters? If not, can you educate us on which political party and candidates they currently support? So we can be aware of who is enabling nazis out there!

 

[FireKrakouer]

But do you denounce these ethno-religious nationalists and supremacists? Is it right or is it wrong to want to drive other cultures and ethnicities from our neighbourhoods, from our societies and from our nation?

If I may jump in, I certainly do. But can you give examples of such organisations? It seems that nazi groups tend to attract less than 500 members, even the global ones. The RW terror attacks do happen and are a huge concern, but generally are committed by lone wolves who are harder to track.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

The RW terror attacks do happen and are a huge concern, but generally are committed by lone wolves who are harder to track.

Recent ones are part of the online ecosystem. 4chan, anti-PC all of that. The stuff that Tarrant says, plenty of you say the same shit. But 99.999999999% of you will never do anything. There is no organisation amongst the alt right, and there is none amongst antifa. But only one is worth worrying about.

 

[EasternTiger]

Antifa is the danger.

 

[EasternTiger]

When you guys mention ethno-religious nationalists, are you also talking about groups like ISIS and mosques where radicalisation takes place?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

No, I'm happy to consign islamists and white nationalists to the rubbish tip. Same shit, different bucket.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

If I may jump in, I certainly do. But can you give examples of such organisations? It seems that nazi groups tend to attract less than 500 members, even the global ones. The RW terror attacks do happen and are a huge concern, but generally are committed by lone wolves who are harder to track.

I have no idea of membership bases (as you indicate, they tend to be on the smaller side and those against usually have the numbers at rally/counter rally clashes) but this article seems to have named most of the far-right and racist/neo-nazi groups operating in Australia

A Brief Guide To The Australian Far Right (April 2019 Edition)

In December 2016 I wrote A (very) brief guide to the Australian far right, itself an updated version of an earlier post published in June 2015. Both were triggered by public demand for somesuch gui…

slackbastard.anarchobase.com

 

[EasternTiger]

No, I'm happy to consign islamists and white nationalists to the rubbish tip. Same s**t, different bucket.

So why isn't antifa targeting islamists?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

So why isn't antifa targeting islamists?

Read.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

When you guys mention ethno-religious nationalists, are you also talking about groups like ISIS and mosques where radicalisation takes place?

Yes. They are a religious component of the term. It's a broad term that covers all groups that believe that their group alone should have the general run of things. It dosen't mean all groups under 'ethno-religious supremacist' are allied, far from it. Daesh/ISIS and white nationalist groups would happily butcher each other for instance.

It's just a convenient hold-all term.

 

[EasternTiger]

Read.

Rolling Stone Magazine. Really KV?

'A lot of the fighters were soldier-of-fortune types, veterans of the French Foreign Legion or the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but at least half were militant leftists like Franceschi, an avowed communist who wore a Mao pin on the lapel of his camouflage uniform.'

Instead of beating up gay asian journalists, why aren't these Mao pin wearing antifa brutes protesting against radical imams and mosques that radicalise youngsters?

 

[CM86]

Rolling Stone Magazine. Really KV?

'A lot of the fighters were soldier-of-fortune types, veterans of the French Foreign Legion or the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but at least half were militant leftists like Franceschi, an avowed communist who wore a Mao pin on the lapel of his camouflage uniform.'

Instead of beating up gay asian journalists, why aren't these Mao pin wearing antifa brutes protesting against radical imams and mosques that radicalise youngsters?

It's happened again? Who else was attacked since Andy Ngo?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Instead of beating up gay asian journalists, why aren't these Mao pin wearing antifa brutes protesting against radical imams and mosques that radicalise youngsters?

It's pretty self-evident. They aren't an intelligent outfit and that is what is required to identify islamists.

Aside from a one off in Sydney, Islamists aren't marching in streets and have hooks into representative government.

 

[CheapCharlie]

So why isn't antifa targeting islamists?

Valid question

The same Islamists who deny women basic rights

 

[FireKrakouer]

Read.

Only read a quarter of this, as it's huge. But is there any corroborating evidence that people who identified as being part of Antifa joined the Kurdish forces in any significant number?

I acknowledge that communist Kurdish militias played an important role in the effort. I did a lot of research of westerners joining the Kurds during the peak of ISIS, and my understanding was that they only wanted military trained individuals. The Lions of Rojava were frustrated by useless idealogues from the west turning up and just wasting money and resources required to get them in and out. Many of whom lied about their skill level.

Funnily enough, ISIS went from rapid expansion to rapid defeat in the 6 months post Trump's inauguration.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Valid question

The same Islamists who deny women basic rights

There is no islamist movement in the US pushing for anything.

 

[AbrahamS]

But do you denounce these ethno-religious nationalists and supremacists? Is it right or is it wrong to want to drive other cultures and ethnicities from our neighbourhoods, from our societies and from our nation?

Multi racial societies are fine. It’s the definition of ‘culture’ that is tricky. If you include laws/statutes then yes there can only be one.

 

[awaremind]

Only read a quarter of this, as it's huge. But is there any corroborating evidence that people who identified as being part of Antifa joined the Kurdish forces in any significant number?

I acknowledge that communist Kurdish militias played an important role in the effort. I did a lot of research of westerners joining the Kurds during the peak of ISIS, and my understanding was that they only wanted military trained individuals. The Lions of Rojava were frustrated by useless idealogues from the west turning up and just wasting money and resources required to get them in and out. Many of whom lied about their skill level.

Funnily enough, ISIS went from rapid expansion to rapid defeat in the 6 months post Trump's inauguration.

I dunno if that's true, isis were slowly defeated by both the ypg dominated sdf, and the saa and iranian backed militia including Palestinian liwa al quds, hezbollah and iraqi shia militia. The biggest blows though were hit by the russian airforce on the fuel tankers that were selling fuel to turkey, i think the russian air campaign was the real turning point. By the time trump came to power most of the hard yards were done.

 

[awaremind]

There is no islamist movement in the US pushing for anything.

Yeah, all those women, dont want to be able to leave thier house or show their face, totally not Stockholm syndrome.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Yeah, all those women, dont want to be able to leave thier house or show their face, totally not Stockholm syndrome.

I’ll assume antifa going door to door is not practical. How do we fix the problem?

 

[CheapCharlie]

There is no islamist movement in the US pushing for anything.

 

[CheapCharlie]

o pull it off

I’ll assume antifa going door to door is not practical. How do we fix the problem?

Masked thugs going door to door to assert their authority?
Certainly in the antifa playbook, but do they yet have the feet on the ground to pull it off?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Did you read the thing you posted, Charlie?

 

[CheapCharlie]

Did you read the thing you posted, Charlie?

You asked about US groups pushing the Islam agenda. There is one example of many

 

[FireKrakouer]

Huge! Not only have Cruz and Trump designated them as terrorists, Joe Rogan (the most popular "talking head" on earth) had this to say:

"It's SO ironic, they call themselves anti fascists, while enforcing their particular ideology with violence and wearing masks".