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Had a few stale hoppy interstate beers recently buying from bottle shops in Perth and regional WA, and starting to really understand how hop flavour/aroma dissapates if hoppy beers aren't drunk soon after bottling

The exact same delicious beers I've had fresh in Vic suddenly taste like soda water after being put into trucks and transported a few times and then sat on shelves for 6 months.

I always thought it was a bit of a myth but it's a good lesson that, if you try a beer from a bottle shop that doesn't live up to lofty expectations (especially if it cost you a bit), it might not be the beer's fault, it's just past its best before.

Beers that don't rely on hop flavour will last a lot longer on the shelf or even get better with age

This is why I shop at the bottle shops who keep their premium beer in the fridge. It's also why brewers like Feral cold freight their products Aus wide.

There's plenty of photos kicking around of Dan Murphy's leaving pallets of craft beer outside their loading dock on 40 deg days, yet people flock there to buy the exact same beer as you can pick up 5 mins up the road from someone who has treated it properly.

In some cases it may cost a little more but if you're prepared to drink craft that is not at its best I'd question what the point is at all.

If any of you are looking for a good independent bottle shop in your area just ask and I'll try to recommend one.
 

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This is why I shop at the bottle shops who keep their premium beer in the fridge. It's also why brewers like Feral cold freight their products Aus wide.

There's plenty of photos kicking around of Dan Murphy's leaving pallets of craft beer outside their loading dock on 40 deg days, yet people flock there to buy the exact same beer as you can pick up 5 mins up the road from someone who has treated it properly.

In some cases it may cost a little more but if you're prepared to drink craft that is not at its best I'd question what the point is at all.

If any of you are looking for a good independent bottle shop in your area just ask and I'll try to recommend one.
Ah is that why sometimes beers taste like shit from dans. Hmm won' be going there again
 
Ah is that why sometimes beers taste like shit from dans. Hmm won' be going there again

Yep. Can be hit and miss and they don't handle it the way the breweries recommend.

Where abouts are you located? Craft is quickly expanding and there's lots of good options about from shops that stock a select range to big stores with a massive range.
 
This is why I shop at the bottle shops who keep their premium beer in the fridge. It's also why brewers like Feral cold freight their products Aus wide.

There's plenty of photos kicking around of Dan Murphy's leaving pallets of craft beer outside their loading dock on 40 deg days, yet people flock there to buy the exact same beer as you can pick up 5 mins up the road from someone who has treated it properly.

In some cases it may cost a little more but if you're prepared to drink craft that is not at its best I'd question what the point is at all.

If any of you are looking for a good independent bottle shop in your area just ask and I'll try to recommend one.

Heard a rumour this may not be happening for much long, since being bought out by Coke
 

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In some cases it may cost a little more but if you're prepared to drink craft that is not at its best I'd question what the point is at all.

If any of you are looking for a good independent bottle shop in your area just ask and I'll try to recommend one.
Anywhere good north of the river? I live way out of the city but occasionally get down to Ellenbrook, Midland or Joondalup. My local's idea of craft beer is the same six pack of bees neez that's been sitting there for a couple of years.
 
Yep. Can be hit and miss and they don't handle it the way the breweries recommend.

Where abouts are you located? Craft is quickly expanding and there's lots of good options about from shops that stock a select range to big stores with a massive range.
I'm in Perth so can really go anywhere.
 
Anywhere good north of the river? I live way out of the city but occasionally get down to Ellenbrook, Midland or Joondalup. My local's idea of craft beer is the same six pack of bees neez that's been sitting there for a couple of years.

Marmion Vintage Cellars
Ashby Cellarbrations Superstore
Cellarbrations Ballajura
Cellarbrations Clarkson
Liquor Barons Ellenbrook
Copper and Oak
 
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Nice. What's it like compared to the Kraken?

Have you tried Baron Samedi? I’ve heard it’s better than Kraken. I’m still yet to try it myself, but I got a bottle for my Brother In Law for Xmas and he says it’s one of the best spiced rums he’s ever had. Also Brinley Gold Shipwreck Spiced as linked above and Brinley Gold Shipwreck Vanilla are two that are apparently very good. I stopped drinking for a couple of years but I’ve just recently started having a few Krakens every now and then. So I’ve I got a few to try. Think I’ll go the BGS Vanilla first.
 

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