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Freedom of speech has its limits, and the appearance of placation is a bizarre goal in the face of a debate on equality.
Ok, now I'm done.
It is a human rights issue. It is not an ordinary political issue.Don't mind Jamo having a go; don't mind the club's statement.
One's an outspoken individual using his stature to campaign for a side of this issue, the other's a club with a much wider set of priorities, and a much greater need for diplomacy.
I'm all for equality; I'm not so sure, though, about attacking those who disagree with me.
Freedom of speech has its limits, and the appearance of placation is a bizarre goal in the face of a debate on equality.
Ok, now I'm done.
Well be irrational and vote No then.Mate, it's people like you that make me want to vote NO even though I don't believe in it.
Wake up to yourself, people have an individual choice so ramming s**t down people's throats because you don't agree with it pushes those sitting on the fence to have a view you will not like.
You are entitled to your opinion. I just don't like it when people put other people down because they have a different view to them. No disrespectFreedom of speech has its limits, and the appearance of placation is a bizarre goal in the face of a debate on equality.
Ok, now I'm done.
What a well considered, unbiased and indisputable opinion Wookie! Thank-you for sharing.I thought the statement was unequivocal - the club supports equality, and it respects the right to people to have personal views - i mean its right there. Personally I think the football club - it IS supposed to be a football club after all - has bigger fish to fry than political statements. I for one would like them to try and win another flag before I die.
Im voting yes on this - oddly enough my mother is gay and this directly impacts her.
Yep, exactly.I repeat: It is a human rights issue.
Yep, exactly.
So why is a footy club commenting? Even better, why are people looking towards a football club to validate their views or otherwise?
Yep, exactly.
So why is a footy club commenting? Even better, why are people looking towards a football club to validate their views or otherwise?
Engagement is great, and I'd be inclined to agree about a lack of it in politics here in general. The issue with some seems not to be about the club's engagement, but what side they take. That's the problem.If for no other reason than to encourage engagement and discussion. We should encourage engagement by all and never shy away from it.
One of the disappointing aspects of Australians as an electorate is a lack of engagement which seems to stem from a feeling of hopelessness. The result is that power is skewed in favour of the wealthy and well-connected. A vicious cycle.
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It is a human rights issue. It is not an ordinary political issue.
The only reason it has become political or been politicised is because of the cunning, shifty behaviour of a cabal of right wingers in the federal government led by the egregious Tiny Tony Abbott.
Ours is the only club to have made a neutral statement and to have invited controversy.
Other clubs have either been silent or, like the AFL and many other flagship organisations in the country,have made statements in favour of the human rights of ssm people.
The Club is getting the criticism it deserves.
I repeat: It is a human rights issue.
The club just told the world it supports equality and SSM, as they should.
You are entitled to your opinion. I just don't like it when people put other people down because they have a different view to them. No disrespect
Well, it states unequivocally that the CFC supports equality. Given that's the primary promotion point of the subject matter, I thought it was pretty clear what they're saying.No, it didn't. That's the point. Rightly or wrongly the club went out of its way NOT to support same sex marriage.
Well, it states unequivocally that the CFC supports equality. Given that's the primary promotion point of the subject matter, I thought it was pretty clear what they're saying.
No, you should most definitely not respect those views!What if the different view is that people with a different colour skin shouldn't have the same rights as white people? Should we respect those views?