The Luke Jackson trade.

[Kreuuuzeurns]

What is the difference between Gawn / Grundy and Gawn / Jackson ?.

One was unsuccessful, one was successful.

Why can’t Darcy / Jackson, be a successful combination ?.

Of course it can be successful.

The question is whether it’s the best use of Jackson’s talent (and by extension salary cap space and draft assets).

I have no idea how Freo fans can watch what he did in the back half of 2023 and the start of this season and want that role to change with less ruck time and more forward time. No ruck is working over their opponent and influencing games from the middle like he is.

I guess we will begin to get an idea in a few weeks time.

 

[theGav56]

Of course it can be successful.

The question is whether it’s the best use of Jackson’s talent (and by extension salary cap space and draft assets).

I have no idea how Freo fans can watch what he did in the back half of 2023 and the start of this season and want that role to change with less ruck time and more forward time. No ruck is working over their opponent and influencing games from the middle like he is.

I guess we will begin to get an idea in a few weeks time.

I really like the idea of Darcy doing the ruck beast work with Jackson imposing himself in the last part of every quarter against a tiring ruck and midfield.

 

[mightymouse75]

Face it. Jackson can do anything.
Ruck, midfielder, defender.
He can even play small forward.
Bit of a mare for other teams to match up on

 

[adammania9]

Goodes was an undersized ruckman who played as essentially a 4th midfielder.

Jackson is genuine ruck size and plays like an elite mobile ruckman.

They aren’t similar and what Jackson is isn’t even unprecedented.

Jim Stynes and Dean Cox were similar.

Trying to turn Jackson into a Goodes or Pavlich style mid would be a massive mistake imo. He is around the ball anyway, with the current ruck rules he has a clearance advantage anyway.

If you want to be technical, there will always be the slightest differences between any two players and everyone is individual in their own way.

I think he has the size, strength, skills and hunger to become a superstar in a multitude type of player, the same way Adam Goodes did.

 

[Forever North]

Seems to have settled now after an average season last year. Phenomenal yesterday. Absolutely monstered us. Freo have a top shelf gun.

 

[schmuttt]

With Jefferson at Melbourne looking likely to be a bust this trade is going to go down in history as an insane win for Freo (Unless Windsor somehow becomes Chris Judd). I'll forever be sad we lost him but geez he is so good to watch. Be very interesting to see how he works with Darcy back in the side.

 

[demondavey]

With Jefferson at Melbourne looking likely to be a bust this trade is going to go down in history as an insane win for Freo (Unless Windsor somehow becomes Chris Judd). I'll forever be sad we lost him but geez he is so good to watch. Be very interesting to see how he works with Darcy back in the side.

Unsure if Jefferson will be a bust. Will need some time.

 

[schmuttt]

Unsure if Jefferson will be a bust. Will need some time.

Played defence for Casey today and was very underwhelming - if you've watched him play you'll see what I mean. Really concerned about his lack of competitiveness, looks like a worse Weideman atm.

 

[mayne man]

Seems to have settled now after an average season last year. Phenomenal yesterday. Absolutely monstered us. Freo have a top shelf gun.

Average year? You do realise he made the all Australian 44 squad and finished 4th in the club best and fairest award as a 21 year old forward/ruck

 

[adammania9]

Average year? You do realise he made the all Australian 44 squad and finished 4th in the club best and fairest award as a 21 year old forward/ruck

And only Charlie Curnow polled more coaches votes of all talls. Great season after a forgettable first 2 or 3 games.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Jackos improved massively since the trade, overhead marking miles better and his ability to hit the scoreboard when pushing forward has improved too.

Still think losing Acres, Lobb and Logue when Darcy was already there is a dumb move from Bell given Darcy's already a top line (though fairly different to Jackson) ruck.

If Freo traded Darcy and invested the return in getting some more talent in the forward line and wings they'd be far better off imo.

Great to see Jacko doing well though, been Freo's best performer this year imo.

Wouldn’t it have been a little risky to trade Darcy so we could pin all of our hopes on an athletic specimen with not an iota of forward craft, a decent but undersized ruck and a poor overhead mark with hands like cement?

Nice attempt at a deflection with the benefit of hindsight but your OP was still absolute rubbish then and even more so now.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Freo would have used pick one on him if we’d had it in that draft.
I reckon you guys and ourselves ranked him highest.
Most clubs right now would take him number one in hindsight.

If you redid that draft now Jackson and Serong would go 1 and 2, with Young top 10 as well.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Face it. Jackson can do anything.
Ruck, midfielder, defender.
He can even play small forward.
Bit of a mare for other teams to match up on

Ruck rover at Darcy’s feet

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Wouldn’t it have been a little risky to trade Darcy so we could pin all of our hopes on an athletic specimen with not an iota of forward craft, a decent but undersized ruck and a poor overhead mark with hands like cement?

Nice attempt at a deflection with the benefit of hindsight but your OP was still absolute rubbish then and even more so now.

Not as dumb as letting Acres go by refusing to pay him more than 300k

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Not as dumb as letting Acres go by refusing to pay him more than 300k

Acres did very little until his contract year and was a known squib. Hats off to him that he’s carried his form to Carlton but he’s not an insurmountable loss.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Seems to have settled now after an average season last year. Phenomenal yesterday. Absolutely monstered us. Freo have a top shelf gun.

You know you’re good when you make the AA squad as a tall at 21 years old on the back of an average season.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

If you redid that draft now Jackson and Serong would go 1 and 2, with Young top 10 as well.

I’d be taking Green a 1 but it does look like Freo have an elite core for the next decade with that group

 

[Piggy Smalls]

I’d be taking Green a 1 but it does look like Freo have an elite core for the next decade with that group

Yeah I forgot about Green. Anderson and Rowell go alright too.
Could probably throw a blanket over 5 or 6 of them TBH.

 

[SBYM]

Just like in the fullness of time Carlton easily won the Judd/Kennedy trade, I have a feeling in a few years Freo will be universally lauded for pulling down MFC's strides on this one.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

It is crazy that Melbourne got us to hand over basically more than has been given for a single player in a long time and Freo are still going to come out ahead comfortably. Jackson is just a one-of-one.

I personally would never want to push someone like Darcy out but think the idea the squad would be better with just Jackson as ruck is at least an interesting talking point. Jackson needs to be on ball as much as possible IMO, he can win games single handidly there. I hope when Darcy is back we get a bit more of a look at midfield Jackson to see if it works as well as him just in the ruck

 

[Mr Meow]

Just like in the fullness of time Carlton easily won the Judd/Kennedy trade, I have a feeling in a few years Freo will be universally lauded for pulling down MFC's strides on this one.

In the fullness of time Carlton won that trade?

 

[SBYM]

In the fullness of time Carlton won that trade?

I think we all know the answer to that question.

 

[demondavey]

Just like in the fullness of time Carlton easily won the Judd/Kennedy trade, I have a feeling in a few years Freo will be universally lauded for pulling down MFC's strides on this one.

No they didn’t

 

[g_TRAIN]

Just like in the fullness of time Carlton easily won the Judd/Kennedy trade, I have a feeling in a few years Freo will be universally lauded for pulling down MFC's strides on this one.

WTF no, they lost.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

WTF no, they lost.

We got F/S Rights to Oscar Judd tho