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The most ignored stat in the AFL - Nathan Fyfes disposal efficiency

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Thing is I don't only use DE stats when rating a player.

You are just in one of your trolling moods embers, fire away because even your own are agreeing that you are making a goose of yourself.


In a thread titled Why Cant Palmer get a game you replies


1) Off to GWS

2) Harvey sick of his partying with Masten

3) Improve shit kicking skills

4) Give Ploddus a chance to shine

Take your pick

But DE isnt important :D
 
I haven't posted anything of the sort about him being a superstar... derp. I simply said he is in transition mode from being an outside mid to an inside mid. These take time and with time comes experience, with experience comes time and so forth. He is unique? are you questioning that? Go watch some footy mate and lay of the beers.


Fair enough opinion. Thought you dropped the word superstar. Got confused with a few posts above yours. My bad
 
Come finals it will be. You got trounced by Geelong for that very reason. They kept marking your kicks

And yet last time we played Geelong in finals we won the game? Interesting.
 

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Oh here we go, Freo fans are more obsessed with NicNat than anyone else

Actually, we are a little more obsessed with players like Pav, Mundy, Barlow, Fyfe, Sandilands, McPharlin, Walters etc. But do go on please.
 
Terrible thread.
This is similar who bag on Priddis for his terrible DE % without taking into account the context. When you are blinding kicking out of packs by throwing the ball on the boot and hoping for the best, you cant expect to find a target every time. But that's the risk you take when it comes to clearances.
Dont get me wrong, both Fyfe and Priddis' are very average kicks, and Fyfe is a better player than Priddis. But give either player some time and open space and they'll hit targets.
Beau Waters on the other hand...couldn't hit a target if he had all the time in the world.
 

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If we had more players like Fyfe we would be alot better.

Im pretty sure we are happy with the dud who cant kick :):thumbsu:
 
Terrible thread.
This is similar who bag on Priddis for his terrible DE % without taking into account the context. When you are blinding kicking out of packs by throwing the ball on the boot and hoping for the best, you cant expect to find a target every time. But that's the risk you take when it comes to clearances.
Dont get me wrong, both Fyfe and Priddis' are very average kicks, and Fyfe is a better player than Priddis. But give either player some time and open space and they'll hit targets.
Beau Waters on the other hand...couldn't hit a target if he had all the time in the world.


People bag Priddis kicking all the time and he is 10% better kick then Fyfe over the last 3 years. People never bag Fyfes kicking at all. Case in point, this thread

Is that not double standards?
 
People bag Priddis kicking all the time and he is 10% better kick then Fyfe over the last 3 years. People never bag Fyfes kicking at all. Case in point, this thread

Is that not double standards?
Na your right Fyfes a dud who cant kick lucky he doesnt play for the WCE hey :thumbsu:
 
Ideally this % would be better, but taking stats out without context rarely works. He clearly isn't a bad player despite the %.


He has the most clangers, intercepted kicks and his dispsal efficiency in uncontested situations is worse then his contested disposals. Its beyond one poor stat. Peoples failure to realise this is astounding
 
People bag Priddis kicking all the time and he is 10% better kick then Fyfe over the last 3 years. People never bag Fyfes kicking at all. Case in point, this thread

Is that not double standards?


Yes. But in making the thread you simply make yourself appear to be uninformed.
Priddis has poor DE% so people use that argument to suggest he's a poor player, when it's not the case.
You are doing the same for Fyfe, when it's clear he is a good player.
The term elite is very arbitrary, its definition is different for each person. Is Fyfe elite? Hard to say, but you dont need to be a great kick to be elite.
Shannon Hurn is a elite kick but not an elite player.
Just food for thought.
 

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3 times in the 3rd Qtr he kicked from a tight contested boundary-side situation on his non-preferred. None of them were turnovers, but none was "efficient" either. He gained about 40m each time though. He could have taken the tackle & stoppage...

All of your stats that are your knock on him relate to the same stat. Pretty much universally people recognize how good Fyfe is, because he's bloody good. You don't Embers. That probably tells us how valuable your opinion on matters of Footy is. :thumbsu:
 
No player I can see has worse DE then this going back all the way to 2000.

Ryan O'Keefe is the only other player that comes even close but even he is miles off (ie. like 4%)
Sorry, I'm unable to get past the first page of this thread when you're using a statistical measure to suggest Ryan O'Keefe and Nathan Fyfe are overrated.
 
Let me throw this out there

Nathan Fyfes disposal efficiency

2013 - 60.9% (bottom 10 in whole league for those over 10 games and 3rd worst amongst midfielders)
2012 - 56.9% (worst in league for players above 10 games)
2011 - 61.5% (bottom 10 in the whole league for those over 10 games and 3rd worst amongst midfielders)

How can literally the worst disposer of the football in the AFL over the past 3 years (he has everyone covered by the length of Flemington too, except for Ryan O'Keefe) be considered such a all out superstar? Ive seen the likes of Daniel Jackson cop flak over there disposal week in week out yet Jacksons disposal efficiency vs Nathan Fyfe is nearly 15% better off.

How can a guy who hits his target this little be considered for a AA spot by everyone? It seems to me people judge him on disposal stats as opposed to what he does with those stats. People want to consider him elite. The fact of the matter is that until he learns how to kick he isnt there yet.
It takes a special talent to be regarded as one of the best mids in the AFL and still be an ordinary kick. See Chris Judd and James Hird for reference. Fyfe would be West Coasts best midfielder and it's not close. And fwiw his disposal efficiency is partially a function of playing as an inside midfielder. I doubt many people would regard Ryan O'Keefe as a poor kick of the football despite what his de numbers indicate. On the other hand guys at WC like Gaffe and Masten would have significantly higher de because they skirt so wide of packs and get to dispose of the ball while under 0 pressure. What makes Pendlebury one of the best players in the AFL is because he has such a high de yet spends a lot of time around the packs.

I would have though a WC supporter would have understood the value of a good inside player seeing as other than Kerr you have 0. If Fyfe were at WC you would be comfortably in the 8 rather than preying to make the 8 on account of Essendon dropping out. Quality inside mids are and always will be far more important than the blokes who skirt on the outside.

cliffnotes: OP is laughable
 
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