The next righteous LNP mission: Let's gut the NDIS

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So you're concerned about profiteering eh.
But your concern about profiteering only goes as far as the NDIS.

You are one of the people that LNP govts rely on when they do s**t like strangle funding for things like the NDIS.
The NDIS is not a scam. It benefits the most vulnerable people in our country.
Get a grip.

Albo & co are about to face funding the NDIS for the first time.
 
So we dont bother stopping fraud or profiteering because it helps many people? Just keep pouring the money in?

To a point, absolutely.

I guarantee every single government program and scheme is the target is some level of it. The dishonest walk along us and always will.

It’s a risk that needs to be managed. If you want to eliminate it rather than manage it, then the government would never spend a cent. That’s not management.

The problem in this age of sh*tstain right wing governments is it’s purposefully blown out of all proportion in order to falsely label something and justify its wholesale slashing or closure on what is really ideological grounds.
 
To a point, absolutely.

I guarantee every single government program and scheme is the target is some level of it. The dishonest walk along us and always will.

It’s a risk that needs to be managed. If you want to eliminate it rather than manage it, then the government would never spend a cent. That’s not management.

The problem in this age of sh*tstain right wing governments is it’s purposefully blown out of all proportion in order to falsely label something and justify its wholesale slashing or closure on what is really ideological grounds.

So the dishonest walk among us but its the right wing governments fault somehow ...
 

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So the dishonest walk among us but its the right wing governments fault somehow ...

No, if you read what you quoted, it’s the governments fault when they use it as an excuse to shut down programs on an ideological basis.

Face it, we would never have had an NDIS under a Liberal govt and in their perfect world they’d destroy it. Or pour all the money (and more) to a bunch of corporate mates.
 
Interview on ABC today discussed this.

- looking to review the fact 90% of NDIS providers are not registered (and thus outside many of the governance tools of the NDIS)

- move to mediation to replace current need to appeal to AAT

- work with the states to formalize the second tier services
 
No, if you read what you quoted, it’s the governments fault when they use it as an excuse to shut down programs on an ideological basis.

Face it, we would never have had an NDIS under a Liberal govt and in their perfect world they’d destroy it. Or pour all the money (and more) to a bunch of corporate mates.

Your version of a perfect world is simply disingenuous ....


'With one in 11 boys aged five to seven now on the National Disability Insurance Scheme, Bill Shorten has called on the states to do more to help rein in the scheme’s spiralling cost trajectory.
The new NDIS Minister said he wanted to “restrain the rate of growth of the cost of the scheme”, which is projected to hit $60 billion a year by 2030, but didn’t believe there should be fewer scheme participants.

Mr Shorten also promised to put “all options on the table” to crack down on illegal rorting of the scheme, including by organised crime gangs, which authorities put as high as $1.5 billion a year, or five per cent of its total current $30 billion a year cost.'

While fraud is a serious concern, diagnoses of autism and developmental delay in children serious enough to warrant an NDIS plan are driving the fast-growing cost of the scheme, flagged last week as a significant budgetary concern by Treasury secretary Steven Kennedy.

There are currently 518,000 people with an NDIS package, nearly half are 18 years old or younger. By 2030, the total is projected by the National Disability Insurance Agency to reach 860,000 scheme participants.
 
No, if you read what you quoted, it’s the governments fault when they use it as an excuse to shut down programs on an ideological basis.

Face it, we would never have had an NDIS under a Liberal govt and in their perfect world they’d destroy it. Or pour all the money (and more) to a bunch of corporate mates.


Bill Shorten says Coalition did not do enough to prevent criminals targeting disability sector as he brings 10-year review of scheme forward

 
Your version of a perfect world is simply disingenuous ....


'With one in 11 boys aged five to seven now on the National Disability Insurance Scheme, Bill Shorten has called on the states to do more to help rein in the scheme’s spiralling cost trajectory.
The new NDIS Minister said he wanted to “restrain the rate of growth of the cost of the scheme”, which is projected to hit $60 billion a year by 2030, but didn’t believe there should be fewer scheme participants.

Mr Shorten also promised to put “all options on the table” to crack down on illegal rorting of the scheme, including by organised crime gangs, which authorities put as high as $1.5 billion a year, or five per cent of its total current $30 billion a year cost.'

While fraud is a serious concern, diagnoses of autism and developmental delay in children serious enough to warrant an NDIS plan are driving the fast-growing cost of the scheme, flagged last week as a significant budgetary concern by Treasury secretary Steven Kennedy.

There are currently 518,000 people with an NDIS package, nearly half are 18 years old or younger. By 2030, the total is projected by the National Disability Insurance Agency to reach 860,000 scheme participants.

The bulk of the fraud is not the participants, but dodgy providers.

4 years ago we saw the same names who rorted childcare rock up as NDIS providers.

Speak to people in the sector, and they will tell you this has been common knowledge for years. Instead, the govt chose to accuse the participants
 

'Just four weeks out from handing down his second budget, Dr Chalmers has stressed growing pressures from debt repayments, the National Disability Insurance Scheme and health and aged care, saying the government could not afford to extend the low- and middle-income tax offset.'

Classic deja vu:
Déjà vu is a French loanword for the phenomenon of feeling as though one has lived through the present situation before. It is an illusion of memory whereby — despite a strong sense of recollection — the time, place, and context of the "previous" experience are uncertain or impossible.


Was the good Doctor absent when the poison pill strategy of the funding of the NDIS was concocted all those years ago ? Albo was present, as Shorten et al.
 
The previous do-nothing govt would have just claimed the scheme isn’t working.

Find these assholes.

The sophisticated syndicates have moved from other schemes – including long daycare, TAFE and tax scams - to target the NDIS.


These were just the costs of making sure the scheme failed for the Libs. It was seen as easier to abandon it as unworkable than try to run it properly.
 
These were just the costs of making sure the scheme failed for the Libs. It was seen as easier to abandon it as unworkable than try to run it properly.

They had 9 years to clean up these scams. Undoubtedly a strategy to discredit it. Instead they targeted innocent Australians with robodebt
 

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'Just four weeks out from handing down his second budget, Dr Chalmers has stressed growing pressures from debt repayments, the National Disability Insurance Scheme and health and aged care, saying the government could not afford to extend the low- and middle-income tax offset.'

Classic deja vu:
Déjà vu is a French loanword for the phenomenon of feeling as though one has lived through the present situation before. It is an illusion of memory whereby — despite a strong sense of recollection — the time, place, and context of the "previous" experience are uncertain or impossible.


Was the good Doctor absent when the poison pill strategy of the funding of the NDIS was concocted all those years ago ? Albo was present, as Shorten et al.

!0 years of mismanagement by the last LNP management experts has led to the current mess. They've allowed these financial 'leaks' to seep into the system.

Plugging the leaks is what the current investigations are all about.
 
Well if you don't like the premise of having a safety net for people who really need to be a part of system then bloody well explain yourself.
No this is not from what you said, but a general complaint for those who don't understand. NDIS is very helpful but not everyone has Good people to
deal with.
 
!0 years of mismanagement by the last LNP management experts has led to the current mess. They've allowed these financial 'leaks' to seep into the system.

Plugging the leaks is what the current investigations are all about.
If it was only leaks we would have nothing to complain about.
 
These were just the costs of making sure the scheme failed for the Libs. It was seen as easier to abandon it as unworkable than try to run it properly.

They had 9 years to clean up these scams. Undoubtedly a strategy to discredit it. Instead they targeted innocent Australians with robodebt

IF you believe its scams are the only problem, listen to the good Doctor Chalmers.


'Just four weeks out from handing down his second budget, Dr Chalmers has stressed growing pressures from debt repayments, the National Disability Insurance Scheme and health and aged care, saying the government could not afford to extend the low- and middle-income tax offset.'

Classic deja vu:
Déjà vu is a French loanword for the phenomenon of feeling as though one has lived through the present situation before. It is an illusion of memory whereby — despite a strong sense of recollection — the time, place, and context of the "previous" experience are uncertain or impossible.


Was the good Doctor absent when the poison pill strategy of the funding of the NDIS was concocted all those years ago ? Albo was present, as Shorten et al.
 
IF you believe its scams are the only problem, listen to the good Doctor Chalmers.

Who said it’s the only problem?

But $300m in payments under review is a helluva lot of funding scammed from those who need it.

Of course, the Libs only had a decade to review these things, and didn’t.

Deserve to be in opposition for the next decade.
 
Who said it’s the only problem?

But $300m in payments under review is a helluva lot of funding scammed from those who need it.

Of course, the Libs only had a decade to review these things, and didn’t.

Deserve to be in opposition for the next decade.

Do a bad job & out you go.

From a purely political view, losing the unlosable election costs the voters (Federal & State).
 
Who said it’s the only problem?

But $300m in payments under review is a helluva lot of funding scammed from those who need it.

Of course, the Libs only had a decade to review these things, and didn’t.

Deserve to be in opposition for the next decade.
You would be shocked how much money is extorted from government programs. Enforcing compliance and detecting fraud is exceedingly difficult at the governments scale. The last big attempt to do so was a little something called Robodebt. A few false positives and you get bad press. It’s easier just to not deal with it.

NDIS is rorted, Centrelink is rorted, Medicare is rorted, carbon credits are rorted, child care is rorted.
 

Bloated NDIS encourages providers to keep children in care: experts​

'A new paper from the Actuaries Institute said care economy models that sought to create a private marketplace of services which governments fund, meant there was little incentive to get people off publicly funded support.'

“The current market model for providers incentivises repeat customers, not the provision of high-quality and outcomes-driven services which lead to scheme exits where appropriate – this is a conundrum for the entire care market (aged care, disability and injury/rehab),” Maathu Ranjan and Dr Anthony Lowe said.


The reality of Government is weighing on Minister Shorten.
 

Bloated NDIS encourages providers to keep children in care: experts​

'A new paper from the Actuaries Institute said care economy models that sought to create a private marketplace of services which governments fund, meant there was little incentive to get people off publicly funded support.'

“The current market model for providers incentivises repeat customers, not the provision of high-quality and outcomes-driven services which lead to scheme exits where appropriate – this is a conundrum for the entire care market (aged care, disability and injury/rehab),” Maathu Ranjan and Dr Anthony Lowe said.


The reality of Government is weighing on Minister Shorten.


Disabled people are undermining the disability scheme???
What sort of nonsense is this???

Where's the AFR article on jobnetwork providers reaping billions keeping unemployed people unemployed??
 

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