The numpty questions thread

[doddgey]

Thanks Grim, much appreciated.

 

[Grimreepah]

You're welcome doddgey. Your queries raise the question of whether things could be more user friendly for posters who have questions. I will discuss this with POBT and Weevil (as always suggestions and feedback are welcome).

 

[dlanod]

Re: Posting Guidelines

Not sure if this is the right place for this but I could not find anywhere else to put it.
I am Hoping someone can educate me on some of the shortened meanings that appear in Big Footy posts like,

efa

op ( mainly see this in Bay 13 )

Thanks

Just a note on the "efa". In addition to what Grim and bob explained it as, there's a subtext that "editing for accuracy" is often used for trolling to completely change the meaning of what the original post was.

For instance:

Cotchin is a well-regarded midfielder who has time on his side with regards to his injury worries. He'll probably show his talent over the next few years.

gets changed to

Cotchin is a broken down hack who'll never get on the park and fellates goats.

EFA.

 

[Haggis McHaggis]

I expect to see you in the bay a bit more this season dla. you're a natural

 

[dlanod]

I've had a look in there while bored. While there's an occasional laugh, that much pure stupid does my head in.

 

[POBT]

Re: Posting Guidelines

op = opening post or osteitis pubis

 

[LIONHART]

Re: Richard Newell - NSW Scholarship

is he our only current scholarship holder atm?

and do we have any international rookies now with the png guys finishing up. Is Don Barry still around?

 

[Grimreepah]

Re: Richard Newell - NSW Scholarship

is he our only current scholarship holder atm?

and do we have any international rookies now with the png guys finishing up. Is Don Barry still around?

Yes, Barry is still a scholarship holder. Him and Newell are our only two.

 

[Lace Out]

If we were to finish 16th,what would our first two draft picks be ?

 

[dlanod]

Depends on our trades and whether we (and anyone else) win more than four games.

Probably 6th and 28th, assuming no one other than the GC our us wins four games or less and we win more games than the GC. I add the disclaimer about our games won because the 28th pick is going to be our compensation pick unless priority picks push it out.

 

[Lace Out]

Depends on our trades and whether we (and anyone else) win more than four games.

Probably 6th and 28th, assuming no one other than the GC our us wins four games or less and we win more games than the GC. I add the disclaimer about our games won because the 28th pick is going to be our compensation pick unless priority picks push it out.

Thanks dlanod.

 

[GabbaGirl]

Saw a thread somewhere that mentioned people who comment inappropriately on play during games - eg calling out 'man up' when the team is employing a zone. Have to say I went at this as this is quite possibly something my friends and I are guilty of, not having grown up with the game.

So my very numpty question is: how can you tell when they're using a zone? We've moved to high seats this year after 7 years of sitting at ground level and it's amazing what a difference it makes to seeing the movement around the field but it doesn't automatically imbue me with a deeper understanding of what's going on.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Saw a thread somewhere that mentioned people who comment inappropriately on play during games - eg calling out 'man up' when the team is employing a zone. Have to say I went at this as this is quite possibly something my friends and I are guilty of, not having grown up with the game.

So my very numpty question is: how can you tell when they're using a zone? We've moved to high seats this year after 7 years of sitting at ground level and it's amazing what a difference it makes to seeing the movement around the field but it doesn't automatically imbue me with a deeper understanding of what's going on.

Short answer: in a zone you don't pick up a direct opponent and instead (along with your teammates) you try and guard space. If your zone is spread fairly evenly, you should be able to get multiple players to the contest when the opponent moves the ball and also makes it easier to slow the game down. When executed correctly of course, if your zone falls apart you can get cut to shreds.

 

[ZoBlitz]

Short answer: in a zone you don't pick up a direct opponent and instead (along with your teammates) you try and guard space. If your zone is spread fairly evenly, you should be able to get multiple players to the contest when the opponent moves the ball and also makes it easier to slow the game down. When executed correctly of course, if your zone falls apart you can get cut to shreds.

Which you'll notice most when a side is kicking in after a point. Explains why most sides are willing to give up that dinky kick to the pocket from the kick in.

 

[GabbaGirl]

Thanks guys. Yes Zo, kick ins are exactly what I was thinking of from TBD's explanation. So with a zone, it's pretty much a case of 'one in, all in'? (looking for the difference between a zone and when someone is not manning up but perhaps should be)

Great short answer too TBD

 

[Happy_Neale]

Thanks guys. Yes Zo, kick ins are exactly what I was thinking of from TBD's explanation. So with a zone, it's pretty much a case of 'one in, all in'? (looking for the difference between a zone and when someone is not manning up but perhaps should be)

Great short answer too TBD

That's more of a rolling zone. Get a heap of numbers at the immediate contest and win the ball back, and move it as a...well rolling zone.

Think of a normal zone as like a soccer type setup (as much as I hate to compare). Everyone has space to guard and when it's your turn, you go. As TBD said, if executed properly you should be able to win the ball back and get some really good spread from the contest too, with 1 on 1's up the field.

You'll notice alot of teams seem to be scoring from kickouts when they move the ball quickly down the field. This is due entirely to a zone. They usually stop at about the defensive 50, so if you can get the ball through an opposition zone quickly, you will either get:

- A player running back with the flight, one on one or even better, on their own.
- A Key forward with a decent amount of space and only one opponent.
- A player with an uncontested shot at goal from 40-50 meters out.

Sorry to ramble, strategy is one of my fascinations.

 

[whatboutbob]

AFL Insider on Foxtel gives some really nifty walk-throughs on stuff like this if anyone's interested.

 

[Haggis McHaggis]

AFL Insider on Foxtel gives some really nifty walk-throughs on stuff like this if anyone's interested.

Great show. Dunstall, Lynch & B. Scott is the most Lions friendly show I think we've ever seen.

 

[GabbaGirl]

Awesome thanks Lionheart! Feel free to ramble as much as you like. Having a deeper understanding of what's going on enhances my enjoyment of the game itself, although not anywhere near as much as the Lions winning does!
Cheers to everyone for info - I'll keep an eye out for that show Bob.

 

[Lehmo87]

One of the key things to remember about zones is discipline - all it takes is for one player to find a gap down the field, and your entire zone can be cut to shreads. It's one of the main reasons why young sides, such as the Lions, are often caught on the back foot. Turnovers are a major factor in modern football because often, when you have the ball, the zone is rollng your way so there is a lot of space behind you so if you turn the ball over, it doesn't take long for it to rebound back.

 

[Grimreepah]

I think what Lionheart is trying to say is this.

 

[GabbaGirl]

I think what Lionheart is trying to say is this.

Haha oh yes that makes it SO much clearer!

 

[Happy_Neale]

I think what Lionheart is trying to say is this.

Patent pending.

 

[Grimreepah]

Yeo was a GC compensation pick. Anyone know which player it was for?

Bonus points for a link, which I am wanting to add to his roster watch thread.

 

[JasRulz63]

The one the Bulldogs received for Harbrow that they traded to us for Sherman.

http://www.lions.com.au/tabid/5085/default.aspx?newsid=109772