Society & Culture Things in life you just don't understand - Part 2

[BotsMaster]

People tend to grow up. If you judge people based on how they behaved at school you'll end up a very bitter person.

Bullies seldom change.

 

[Off The Couch]

People tend to grow up. If you judge people based on how they behaved at school you'll end up a very bitter person.

Bullying can have a long term impact on those that have been on the receiving end and it's very easy to tell someone to let it go just because school is over. For the most part bullies are bullies - they are just wearing a different disguise in adulthood and have refined how they bully. I recently listened to a morning radio DJ talk about how she was a bully in high school and how bad she felt about that now and apologised on air how sorry she was - she didn't take too well the feedback she received and it was interesting how her tone and attitude to that feedback changed. Seems the bully still lives under the surface.

 

[Shell]

The only 2 times times I left my car unlocked a couple of years apart in my own carport ( 2 different locations)it was opened and glove contents (nothing of value) rifled through. True story. Don't even live in a shitty area. Wierd asf.

If you broke into my car this is what you would find: a 2009 Melway (in quite bad condition), some cassette tapes, a small handful of silver coins (usually have something larger tho can come in handy), a tennis racquet and one of those thingys you put on the dashboard when it's hot to protect the car interior. And the car manual. So thieves pls, help yourself

I leave my keys in my top drawer in my desk. But leaving them in the car? That's all kinds of stupid.

I'm thinking perhaps he feels safe to do so cause- the car park is fenced pretty well (yet obviously anyone can still walk in), cameras all over the place and during a normal school day there's always people walking around the place (as in people who work there), even when class is on there's always some staff not in class walking around + maintenance staff, etc.

But the issue was it wasn't a normal day it was a PD. And 99% of staff were all in the same place for several hours.

 

[Shell]

Bullying can have a long term impact on those that have been on the receiving end and it's very easy to tell someone to let it go just because school is over. For the most part bullies are bullies - they are just wearing a different disguise in adulthood and have refined how they bully. I recently listened to a morning radio DJ talk about how she was a bully in high school and how bad she felt about that now and apologised on air how sorry she was - she didn't take too well the feedback she received and it was interesting how her tone and attitude to that feedback changed. Seems the bully still lives under the surface.

Psychopaths, Narcissists + BF Mods?

I think everyone is bullied in school (I know I was but honestly it wasn't that serious)- it's the extent and type of bullying that vary. I do feel sorry for kids these days, because obviously at the end of the school day it doesnt end there.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

It's interesting the lack of empathy some people have towards bullies in high school.

Unwilling to give them the benefit of the doubt, despite not knowing them at all, stubbornly holding onto the image they had of them in high school.

It's ironic that people can have the preconceived notion that high school bullies will never change. That sort of generalization is usually seen by the bully when s/he was in high school.

 

[akkaps]

Bullying can have a long term impact on those that have been on the receiving end and it's very easy to tell someone to let it go just because school is over. For the most part bullies are bullies - they are just wearing a different disguise in adulthood and have refined how they bully. I recently listened to a morning radio DJ talk about how she was a bully in high school and how bad she felt about that now and apologised on air how sorry she was - she didn't take too well the feedback she received and it was interesting how her tone and attitude to that feedback changed. Seems the bully still lives under the surface.

I've been bullied all the way from Prep to Yr12 (yes, Yr12). Things included : being made fun of my weight, all the way to police accusations and treating jail and being stabbed in the chest with a pair of scissors. And even being bashed up in front of 30 other kids by one of my mates, and his reason was : because I felt like it.

The problem is that if you report this to a teacher, the bully will get a kick out of it, because it is causing a reaction. I'm not saying not to report such behaviour, but in a school situation, there is nothing the bullied can do but bare it. The bullier wont learn. I've had one guy add me on Facebook, a few years after Yr6, just to continue bullying me there.

This is made me a very quiet and cautious person. I am very reluctant to meet new people because I am always worried about what they think of me, and whether their main motive of friendship is to exploit me. I'd rather sit at home watching TV or playing games, because then it limits the chance of me being hurt.

 

[Kram]

If you broke into my car this is what you would find: a 2009 Melway (in quite bad condition), some cassette tapes, a small handful of silver coins (usually have something larger tho can come in handy), a tennis racquet and one of those thingys you put on the dashboard when it's hot to protect the car interior. And the car manual. So thieves pls, help yourself

When I was in Kalgoorlie someone broke into my mate's car in our front driveway and took about $5 worth of loose change, but left behind on the seat an insulated electrical screwdriver worth about $12. As an electrician it went into his toolbox for an overall win

 

[akkaps]

It's interesting the lack of empathy some people have towards bullies in high school.

Unwilling to give them the benefit of the doubt, despite not knowing them at all, stubbornly holding onto the image they had of them in high school.

It's ironic that people can have the preconceived notion that high school bullies will never change. That sort of generalization is usually seen by the bully when s/he was in high school.

What you are failing to understand is the long term affect it has on people. Yeah, everything might be good and rosy now. But, back then was when they made the most damage to my life and I do blame them.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

What you are failing to understand is the long term affect it has on people. Yeah, everything might be good and rosy now. But, back then was when they made the most damage to my life and I do blame them.

Sure you can blame them, but that doesn't change the fact that they might be different people now.

When I look back to how much I've changed since high school, how stupid I was and how not in control I was of my actions, it makes no sense to me to judge others based on how they were in high school.

 

[Keys]

That's really shit to hear and your school years don't sound like much fun. It's understandable that you'd be reluctant to accept that some of those kids have changed or even care that they had

Stabbed in the chest with scissors sounds serious

 

[Kram]

Psychopaths, Narcissists + BF Mods?

I think everyone is bullied in school (I know I was but honestly it wasn't that serious)- it's the extent and type of bullying that vary. I do feel sorry for kids these days, because obviously at the end of the school day it doesnt end there.

I think of them more as Gareth Keenan types..

 

[Carl Hooper]

I've been bullied all the way from Prep to Yr12 (yes, Yr12). Things included : being made fun of my weight, all the way to police accusations and treating jail and being stabbed in the chest with a pair of scissors. And even being bashed up in front of 30 other kids by one of my mates, and his reason was : because I felt like it.

The problem is that if you report this to a teacher, the bully will get a kick out of it, because it is causing a reaction. I'm not saying not to report such behaviour, but in a school situation, there is nothing the bullied can do but bare it. The bullier wont learn. I've had one guy add me on Facebook, a few years after Yr6, just to continue bullying me there.

This is made me a very quiet and cautious person. I am very reluctant to meet new people because I am always worried about what they think of me, and whether their main motive of friendship is to exploit me. I'd rather sit at home watching TV or playing games, because then it limits the chance of me being hurt.

Damn, this post made me angry. Just know I was one of them kids who would stand up for the guy getting bullied. I was the only black kid in my school for most of my school life so I always copped racist shit and I was pretty short so I was an easy target. Once I got a lil bigger and a bit more confidence tho, nobody messed wit me and because I knew how it felt to be bullied I'd always put myself in situations to put bullies back in there place. 2 wrongs don't always make a right but in these cases it did.

I still have problems making new friends, meeting new people etc because of that stuff in childhood but it gets easier.

 

[akkaps]

Sure you can blame them, but that doesn't change the fact that they might be different people now.

When I look back to how much I've changed since high school, how stupid I was and how not in control I was of my actions, it makes no sense to me to judge others based on how they were in high school.

The might be different people. The key word there is 'might'. From experience, they don't change. People continue to bully.

That's really shit to hear and your school years don't sound like much fun. It's understandable that you'd be reluctant to accept that some of those kids have changed or even care that they had

Stabbed in the chest with scissors sounds serious

This was in Yr8, the guy got suspended from school for a couple of days and the whole class then blamed me for him missing school. This didn't stop him continuing to bully me.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

The might be different people. The key word there is 'might'. From experience, they don't change. People continue to bully.

This was in Yr8, the guy got suspended from school for a couple of days and the whole class then blamed me for him missing school. This didn't stop him continuing to bully me.

Well, you should give them the benefit of the doubt and keep an open mind. You're doing yourself a disservice if you continue to assume people don't change. Isn't the fact that they would post about suicide statistics and urging people to talk to someone, proof that they are changing, even somewhat a little bit?

Btw was this incident at our school? I've never heard of this.

 

[Keys]

Well, you should give them the benefit of the doubt and keep an open mind. You're doing yourself a disservice if you continue to assume people don't change. Isn't the fact that they would post about suicide statistics and urging people to talk to someone, proof that they are changing, even somewhat a little bit?

Btw was this incident at our school? I've never heard of this.

Why should he give them the benefit of the doubt?

I'd be suspicious of their motives as well from Akkaps perspective. Perhaps leave open the possibility that they'd changed but he's justified in being wary

 

[akkaps]

Well, you should give them the benefit of the doubt and keep an open mind. You're doing yourself a disservice if you continue to assume people don't change. Isn't the fact that they would post about suicide statistics and urging people to talk to someone, proof that they are changing, even somewhat a little bit?

Btw was this incident at our school? I've never heard of this.

But these people had a massive affect on my life. What they do now will not reverse the effect they had on me.

This was not at our school. This was a year before I arrived.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

Why should he give them the benefit of the doubt?

I'd be suspicious of their motives as well from Akkaps perspective. Perhaps leave open the possibility that they'd changed but he's justified in being wary

Okay, what ulterior motive would they have of doing this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...sokaytotalk-changing-the-conversation-around/

 

[Shell]

The campaigner akkaps described sounds like he deserves nothing.

Also what shits me to tears: describing a certain action or act as "bullying" which is not it is clearly an "assault" or crime/criminal action.

 

[akkaps]

Okay, what ulterior motive would they have of doing this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...sokaytotalk-changing-the-conversation-around/

To look like they give a shit now. That was my main point to begin with. It's all for show.

 

[Richo is God]

I'm confused here. Are you saying he should just all of a sudden forgive these people for putting him down and emotionally affecting him for years at school just because they post a status on Facebook for the likes?

 

[Keys]

Okay, what ulterior motive would they have of doing this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...sokaytotalk-changing-the-conversation-around/

It's a good initiative for sure and some of the kids that bullied Akkaps may have genuinely grown into better people as adults

Doesn't mean he should forgive them for bring arseholes to him just because they've jumped on a social media bandwagon whilst he's obviously struggling to home to terms with the impact the bullying has had on him

 

[TheFreshBanana]

I'm confused here. Are you saying he should just all of a sudden forgive these people for putting him down and emotionally affecting him for years at school just because they post a status on Facebook for the likes?

No I'm not, I'm just saying you shouldn't assume they are the same people they were.

Akkaps assumes these people are merely bullies marauding as people who give a shit, whereas I'm saying it's more likely that they are merely people who give a shit that were bullies.

 

[revival_mode]

To look like they give a shit now. That was my main point to begin with. It's all for show.

100% it is. Just puffs them up a bit having a show off.

 

[Gough]

I akkaps. Don't let the pricks get you down mate.

 

[akkaps]

100% it is. Just puffs them up a bit having a show off.

It's like all those that people that changed their Facebook DPs to help support gay marriage or in response to the French terror attacks.

It does nothing, all it says is that they know about the issue. But they aren't doing shit all otherwise.