Tom Boyd

[Plugger35]

For a guy who was recruited mostly as a KPF he not only held his own in the ruck for nearly the entire game but was more important than Mumford.

If you're not satisfied with that then you are either clueless or a troll or both.

Boyd was not more important or influential than Mumford, the stats just don't back that up at all.

Boyd was important to the Dogs though as with Roughead going off injured he was the only player they had that could go in the ruck and curb Mumford's influence.

Roo is 64 years old
Bruce was average this year
McCartin is injured every week
Membrey? Who?

Would walk into your team

And you bagged him don't back away from it

You just bagged all of our forwards you muppet.

There is no way in hell Boyd would get a game in our forward line ahead of those 4 players as unlike Boyd they are capable of taking marks and kicking goals, the two things that KPFs are supposed to do.

Well everything here is wrong because Boyd is a KPF that can play ruck unlike Roo, Bruce, McCartin and Membery?

And Biyd would have played last nite, he was in front of Red when Red went down and Cordy is the one that came in to fill that spot.

But thanks for playing

Bruce actually pinch hits in the ruck from time to time, you really shouldn't comment on our players when you clearly don't watch our games.

 

[Damon_3388]

And there are plenty of people as highly critical of CD as I am, and plenty who are even more critical.

That's great.

I was just clarifying that the CD Player Ranking Score is the scoring system used in Supercoach, because it seemed like you were under the impression that they were two different things, and you're not the only person I've noticed make this incorrect distinction either, or use it as some sort of reason to dismiss the measure's worth or validity.

Again, nobody is saying these measures are the be-all, end-all, but they're a decent guide and something to consider.

 

[Mattdougie]

Boyd was not more important or influential than Mumford, the stats just don't back that up at all.

Boyd was important to the Dogs though as with Roughead going off injured he was the only player they had that could go in the ruck and curb Mumford's influence.



You just bagged all of our forwards you muppet.

There is no way in hell Boyd would get a game in our forward line ahead of those 4 players as unlike Boyd they are capable to taking marks and kicking goals, the two things that KPFs are supposed to do.



Bruce actually pinch hits in the ruck from time to time, you really shouldn't comment on our players when you clearly don't watch our games.

Lol i said play ruck effectively not just pinch hit.

Try learn something about footy other than CD and SuperCoach point then come chat with the adults.

Until then I'm off to enjoy the week

 

[nobbyiscool]

We didn't pay Tippo $900K full stop.

Boyd can't ruck. At best he 'provides a contest' which he did with aplomb last night.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tippett-gets-his-sydney-wish-20121210-2b5q6.html

You do the maths

 

[Mattdougie]

Seriously? Your dearth of talls is the reason he was worth $1m a season to you. Jake Carlisle would play forward/ruck for the saints before you'd give Boyd the job, did a serviceable job for us a few years back, I think he kicked 8 and took 20 marks against you blokes. Seventh in line.

He will probably come good in a few years but at the moment he's an ordinary player who played a solid game last night.

21 year old kid stood up against a top 3 ruckman in the league.

Any team and any person who has any idea would be rapt with that not hate.

 

[nobbyiscool]

Boyd was not more important or influential than Mumford, the stats just don't back that up at all.

Boyd was important to the Dogs though as with Roughead going off injured he was the only player they had that could go in the ruck and curb Mumford's influence.

You've been shown the stats - you're now just being obtuse and willfully ignoring them.

 

[HairyO]

Boyd was not more important or influential than Mumford, the stats just don't back that up at all.

Boyd was important to the Dogs though as with Roughead going off injured he was the only player they had that could go in the ruck and curb Mumford's influence.

Mumford was not influential. He may have got a lot of hitouts, but how many were to advantage which led to a clearance?

The Dogs smashed GWS in clearances.

 

[andrewb]

21 year old kid stood up against a top 3 ruckman in the league.

Any team and any person who has any idea would be rapt with that not hate.

See my earlier post. He played well last night. Good on him.

He still wouldn't get a game at the Saints.

 

[Mattdougie]

See my earlier post. He played well last night. Good on him.

He still wouldn't get a game at the Saints.

Haha ok

Playing in a GF but wouldn't get a game for a non finals team

Lol wow

 

[Plugger35]

Lol i said play ruck effectively not just pinch hit.

Try learn something about footy other than CD and SuperCoach point then come chat with the adults.

Until then I'm off to enjoy the week

Well Boyd doesn't do much more than pinch hit in the ruck either, he's certainly not a frontline ruckman or Roughead wouldn't be playing.

By all means enjoy the week, it's about time you Dogs supporters got to feel the excitement of GF week but I won't be barracking for you on Saturday.

You've been shown the stats - you're now just being obtuse and willfully ignoring them.

You mean your selective stats? What about the stats that say that Mumford had over twice as many hitouts as Boyd and had more marks and tackles?

You seem to be willfully ignoring them too.

Mumford was not influential. He may have got a lot of hitouts, but how many were to advantage which led to a clearance?

The Dogs smashed GWS in clearances.

That was hardly Mumford's fault that the Dogs midfielders beat the GWS midfielders, Mumford quite often hit the ball to the GWS mids advantage but they couldn't take advantage of it.

Mumford did his job, some of their midfielders didn't do theirs.

 

[andrewb]

Haha ok

Playing in a GF but wouldn't get a game for a non finals team

Lol wow

Ok let's play a different game.

Please name the gun talls that he is keeping out of the Bulldogs team

 

[jiphoc]

Mumford was not influential. He may have got a lot of hitouts, but how many were to advantage which led to a clearance?

The Dogs smashed GWS in clearances.

The Dogs did last night what Hawks do when they are on song. They read the GWS hit outs and tried to turn the ball over from whoever received the hit out. It was actually very nice to watch.

As for Boyd. He was very good yesterday, not brilliant, but very good. This thread is basically all down to his salary. So far in his career he has done nothing to even indicate he will play like a 1 million dollar player ever in his career. Do you hold that against him? Tough call.

 

[BK Eaglesfan]

Fascinated to see what the Dogs have planned for next year and beyond for their forward line. Redpath to come back, Crameri to come back, Cloke to be added. Stringer still there along with Smith and Dickson. Wonder if they are looking at Boyd becoming part of the solution in the middle of the ground rather than forward.

 

[Underdog]

Wow 198cm. Such difference

Sure, but he said 200cm, not 198. Your mentioning of Blicavs is irrelevant

 

[saintsrfreak]

Lol i said play ruck effectively not just pinch hit.

Try learn something about footy other than CD and SuperCoach point then come chat with the adults.

Until then I'm off to enjoy the week

He still can't take a mark to save his life

 

[ManOfClay]

I'd easily take Lobb over Boyd.

Lobb is a gun but you can keep him. Boyd did the job for us and will play in a grand final this weekend.

 

[JeffDunne]

Could someone point me to one highlight from yesterday's game?

If he was as influential as some here claim, surely there'd be something that might convince a skeptic like me?

 

[Damon_3388]

Fascinated to see what the Dogs have planned for next year and beyond for their forward line. Redpath to come back, Crameri to come back, Cloke to be added. Stringer still there along with Smith and Dickson.

I feel like they need another genuine small forward (not just a resting midfielder) to balance things out a bit. Hard to see Cloke, Redpath, Crameri, Stringer and Dickson all playing together, even if people insist Stringer isn't a key forward, Cloke plays up the ground (as he should) and Dickson is on the smaller side.

Wonder if they are looking at Boyd becoming part of the solution in the middle of the ground rather than forward.

I think developing Boyd's ruckwork further is the way to go. The physical requirements and development needed will assist him if he ever plays forward, too.

 

[Canada]

He will be a gun. I remember how muck everyone laughed at Rance in his early years. Big guys take a little time.
The beauty for dogs is that they can afford him and have it not affect the side. As in, they still have a ripping team despite him taking up such a large slice of the pie. As this slice decreases and his input increases it will just be even better for them all.
#envylevelshigh

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

I'd easily take Lobb over Boyd.

Don't worry, Freo will take him off the Giants hands.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

He will be a gun. I remember how muck everyone laughed at Rance in his early years. Big guys take a little time.
The beauty for dogs is that they can afford him and have it not affect the side. As in, they still have a ripping team despite him taking up such a large slice of the pie. As this slice decreases and his input increases it will just be even better for them all.
#envylevelshigh

Well said.

 

[HTPunter]

Haha ok

Playing in a GF but wouldn't get a game for a non finals team

Lol wow

Lobb is a gun but you can keep him. Boyd did the job for us and will play in a grand final this weekend.

If Sydney beat you guys next week I hope you both accept the fact George Hewett and Xavier Richards would be in your best 22 with that logic...

 

[HTPunter]

He will be a gun. I remember how muck everyone laughed at Rance in his early years. Big guys take a little time.
The beauty for dogs is that they can afford him and have it not affect the side. As in, they still have a ripping team despite him taking up such a large slice of the pie. As this slice decreases and his input increases it will just be even better for them all.
#envylevelshigh

Cale Hooker, Alex Rance, Tom Hawkins, even Jack Watts.

Agree completely with everything you've said.

 

[Canada]

Could someone point me to one highlight from yesterday's game?

If he was as influential as some here claim, surely there'd be something that might convince a skeptic like me?

I don't think he was incredibly influential JD, rather just solid. Competed hard in the ruck and really hard on the ground. Had a dozen good handballs which showed his willingness to be part of the play and not just one of those rucks who touches it twice a game.
He will be a gem eventually. Just like so many big men before him, he will take a little time. The double club, expectations, bashers due to $$ etc probable haven't helped his development.
I thought you'd be really positive about dogs. You guys were kind of brothers in arms for terrible results in the 80's.
Good to see one of you win a flag I'm guessing?

 

[Seedsfan]

Not to mention the dogs front ended his payed contract and payed some of Griffs because they were struggling to meet the 95% of the cap. People still think we did a stupid thing. and yes we did up payments on the young stars we had also, but still was not going to reach the 95%

Yeah they front ended his contract , even though last year he was on a standard AFL contract last year. Just like every player who gets drafted is