What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 2

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Clay's hardness at the ball will be better utilised through midfield, his natural position, where he'll play a lot more this year.

Despite the 4 goals he kicked in the prelim, and the fact he kicked a goal or two in virtually every game, at the end of the day he's not really a natural forward by trade, and his style of footy is more effective through midfield.

It's just he was almost "forced" to play forward because he didn't have the endurance base and running capacity to play much through midfield (given that with his knees he hadn't done a pre-season for three years to build a running base). But come this year he'll be like our other midfield group who rest forward and play through midfield in proportions similar to our other midfielders.

He can play forward, but I don't think he's any more of a natural forward than players like Bont, Dunkley, Wallis before he got injured etc. were, and those players also had games where they kicked multiple goals from the forward line when they were rotating out of the midfield.

Honestly with Crameri back and Cloke playing our forward line will probably have 1 or 2 less "resting mids" as part of our forward structure which will mean the squeeze for blokes like Smith and Dunkley will be through fighting for places in the midfield, not the forward line.
I wonder if there was perhaps an element of trying to protect him in the forward line. Play him there, get him through the year then a full preseason should ensure his knee is at full strength when he goes into the midfield this year. Of course you're going to get knocks in the fwd line but i'd think it would be less common compared to the mid.
 
Just on Clay Smith....do people think he will get his agility back? He still seems a bit awkward / proppy at times. Along with his fitness, I think we'll see plenty of upside with him.
 
PSA: Brad Johnson is the Fox Footy guest programmer tomorrow (28/1) and he is playing the Prelim and GF all day!
 
PSA: Brad Johnson is the Fox Footy guest programmer tomorrow (28/1) and he is playing the Prelim and GF all day!

This is the second time that they have done this and its really odd (as great as those two games are) and pretty ******* annoying that they haven't taken the opportunity to show some of our other games from this or past years or indeed some of the great games that Johno himself has played for us. Its what all of the other guest programers have done with their 6 or so selections.

On the bright side, I get to record both games again after Foxtel wiped them just this past week.
 
Oldies but goodies: How your club's veterans are tracking

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Three key cogs in the premiers' machine rank among the top 10 oldest players in the competition but at 34 years of age, Robert Murphy, Matthew Boyd and Dale Morris are keeping up with the club's exciting youngsters this pre-season. Murphy, the AFL's oldest player, looks set to play in round one after his recovery from a knee reconstruction has gone to plan, while Boyd and Morris have shown no signs of slowing down after impressive 2016 campaigns. After dominating last year's finals series, Liam Picken hasn't missed a beat on the track this summer and the 30-year-old looks set for another big year. Travis Cloke's arrival at Whitten Oval will be an interesting sub-plot as the Dogs attempt to go back-to-back. The 29-year-old will be keen to recapture the form that eluded him in his last few years at Collingwood and appears to have trimmed down in his bid to reignite his career. - Ryan Davidson

Robert Murphy (left) cut a trim figure at the Dogs' training camp. Picture: AFL Photos
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Oldies but goodies: How your club's veterans are tracking

WESTERN-BULLDOGS-620-C.jpg


Three key cogs in the premiers' machine rank among the top 10 oldest players in the competition but at 34 years of age, Robert Murphy, Matthew Boyd and Dale Morris are keeping up with the club's exciting youngsters this pre-season. Murphy, the AFL's oldest player, looks set to play in round one after his recovery from a knee reconstruction has gone to plan, while Boyd and Morris have shown no signs of slowing down after impressive 2016 campaigns. After dominating last year's finals series, Liam Picken hasn't missed a beat on the track this summer and the 30-year-old looks set for another big year. Travis Cloke's arrival at Whitten Oval will be an interesting sub-plot as the Dogs attempt to go back-to-back. The 29-year-old will be keen to recapture the form that eluded him in his last few years at Collingwood and appears to have trimmed down in his bid to reignite his career. - Ryan Davidson

Robert Murphy (left) cut a trim figure at the Dogs' training camp. Picture: AFL Photos
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Love the photo caption. They couldn't exactly say he cut a spaghetti pipe figure now, can they?
 

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Could probably go to list management thread too:

Jason Johannisen set to double his value in next deal with Western Bulldogs

JAY CLARK, Herald Sun
an hour ago
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NORM Smith medallist Jason Johannisen is in line for a sharp pay rise as the Western Bulldogs look to lock-in the Grand Final hero to a fresh long-term deal.

The speedster tops the club’s list of priority re-signings this year after his line-breaking run helped deliver the club a stunning premiership win last season.

But any move to delay contract talks throughout this season from Johannisen, 24, will heighten strong interest from rival clubs, especially from his home state of Western Australia.

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Johannisen’s next deal is estimated to be worth more than $500,000 a year at the kennel - more than double the value of his last contract which he signed in 2014, when the former rookie had played less than 30 AFL games.

The Dogs remain confident the opportunity to enjoy more premiership success and brilliant team chemistry at Whitten Oval will significantly outweigh the temptation to earn more money elsewhere.


Norm Smith medallist Jason Johannisen’s next deal could be worth double. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Dual premiership North Melbourne defender and AFL analyst David King backed the club to keep Johannisen, but said not all of its young stars could earn big dollars as the Dogs attempt to balance their books.

“They have got to find a way to try and satisfy all of them, (Marcus) Bontempelli, (Luke) Dahlhaus, (Tom) Liberatore, (Jackson) Macrae, even guys like Clay Smith got rolling last season,” King told the Herald Sun.

“But the bottom line is when you go out and recruit a guy like Tom Boyd on the money we all know he is on, and no doubt they have done it for the right reasons - to win a flag and they did it with him (Boyd) being as instrumental as he was.

“But what it does do is it raises the bar in terms of what players think they are entitled to and what they think the club can afford.”

Johannisen finished 10th in the best and fairest despite missing 10 games with a severe hamstring injury and narrowly pipped Boyd for the Norm Smith Medal, gathering 33 possessions against Sydney Swans in the decider.



Johannisen at training last month. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Johannisen is one the few Bulldogs’ young guns who comes out of contract this year, along with fullback Marcus Adams, midfielders Caleb Daniel and Clay Smith and returning forward Stewart Crameri.

The club remains highly confident it will keep the South African-born defender as its young list targets back-to-back premierships under coach Luke Beveridge.

The club has cleverly locked away the bulk of its top-line young talents to long-term deals under premiership list boss Jason McCartney, helping protect the star youngsters from poaching raids.

Future captain Bontempelli (2019), Lachie Hunter (2019), Jake Stringer (2018), Macrae (2018), Dahlhaus (2018), Liberatore (2018) and Jordan Roughead (2018) have all inked multi-year deals.

Johannisen blossomed into one of the AFL’s most damaging running defenders during a breakout 2016 season, averaging 24 possessions a game.

The 64-gamer was ranked ninth for uncontested possessions of all general defenders in the league and was classified as an “above average” player by AFL statisticians Champion Data.

Favourite son Liam Picken, who is out of contract and a free agent at season’s end, is also expected to re-sign after another excellent season.

Veteran captain Robert Murphy is also out of contract at season’s end as he eyes a Round 1 comeback from a knee reconstruction.


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Key architect of Bulldogs premiership to present to AFL coaches
Peter Ryan
January 29, 2017 2:50 PM

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Simon Dalrymple was part of the recruiting team that picked Marcus Bontempelli

A KEY architect of the Western Bulldogs' historic 2016 premiership team will present at the annual AFL National Coaches Conference at the MCG next week.

Bulldogs recruiter Simon Dalrymple, who put together the Bulldogs' list alongside list manager Jason McCartney, is scheduled to run a Saturday afternoon session on talent identification at the conference which begins on Friday night.

Dalrymple, who Brownlow medallist Sam Mitchell credited as being a key influence on his career when presented with the 2012 award in December, joined the Bulldogs as a development coach in 2007 before moving into recruiting.

He was part of the team responsible for selecting Marcus Bontempelli with pick No.4 in 2013, Caleb Daniel with pick No.46 in 2014 and Jake Stringer and Jack Macrae with picks No.5 and No.6 respectively in 2012.

Hearing what lies behind Dalrymple's astute eye will just be one of the numerous presentations and sessions to be held from Friday, February 3 - Sunday, February 5.

Essendon coach John Worsfold will make a keynote presentation on Friday night titled Tension is Good, while Asian Cup winning Socceroos coach Ange Postecoglou will open proceedings on Saturday morning.

The program has assistant coaches from St Kilda, Collingwood, Carlton, Hawthorn and the Western Bulldogs also taking part, with Magpies senior assistant Robert Harvey presenting on how to work with leaders on Sunday.

The 2017 AFL National Coaches Conference is expected to attract 400 coaches to the MCG.
 
David 'I just regurgitate Champion Data's analysis without adding any of my own' King said:
Jason Johannisen set to double his value in next deal with Western Bulldogs

Blah. Blah. Blah.

“But the bottom line is when you go out and recruit a guy like Tom Boyd on the money we all know he is on, and no doubt they have done it for the right reasons - to win a flag and they did it with him (Boyd) being as instrumental as he was.

“But what it does do is it raises the bar in terms of what players think they are entitled to and what they think the club can afford.”


Blah. Blah. Blah.

...and there it is.
 
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...and there it is.
It's amazing how in the face of all evidence to the contrary - not a single player has walked out on the club that we didn't already have a desire to trade in the two off-seasons since we recruited Boyd - people still hold that view. Apparently smart footy analysers still have that opinion.

Psychologists would get a massive kick studying the cognition at play here.
 
I am so sick of David King.

It's not even that what he said was untrue. It's that absolutely anybody with even a passing interest in club sport could tell you that.

Has somehow flipped his CD care package segments into a soapbox and it's not a good thing.
 
I am so sick of David King.

It's not even that what he said was untrue. It's that absolutely anybody with even a passing interest in club sport could tell you that.

Has somehow flipped his CD care package segments into a soapbox and it's not a good thing.
Please write a book. Your way with words never fails to make me laugh.
 
A KEY architect of the Western Bulldogs' historic 2016 premiership team will present at the annual AFL National Coaches Conference at the MCG next week.

Bulldogs recruiter Simon Dalrymple, who put together the Bulldogs' list alongside list manager Jason McCartney, is scheduled to run a Saturday afternoon session on talent identification at the conference which begins on Friday night.

Dalrymple, who Brownlow medallist Sam Mitchell credited as being a key influence on his career when presented with the 2012 award in December, joined the Bulldogs as a development coach in 2007 before moving into recruiting.

He was part of the team responsible for selecting Marcus Bontempelli with pick No.4 in 2013, Caleb Daniel with pick No.46 in 2014 and Jake Stringer and Jack Macrae with picks No.5 and No.6 respectively in 2012.

Hearing what lies behind Dalrymple's astute eye will just be one of the numerous presentations and sessions to be held from Friday, February 3 - Sunday, February 5.

Essendon coach John Worsfold will make a keynote presentation on Friday night titled Tension is Good, while Asian Cup winning Socceroos coach Ange Postecoglou will open proceedings on Saturday morning.

The program has assistant coaches from St Kilda, Collingwood, Carlton, Hawthorn and the Western Bulldogs also taking part, with Magpies senior assistant Robert Harvey presenting on how to work with leaders on Sunday.

The 2017 AFL National Coaches Conference is expected to attract 400 coaches to the MCG.

WTF? Why is Dal helping these other campaigners?
 
Could probably go to list management thread too:

Jason Johannisen set to double his value in next deal with Western Bulldogs

JAY CLARK, Herald Sun
an hour ago
Subscriber only

NORM Smith medallist Jason Johannisen is in line for a sharp pay rise as the Western Bulldogs look to lock-in the Grand Final hero to a fresh long-term deal.

The speedster tops the club’s list of priority re-signings this year after his line-breaking run helped deliver the club a stunning premiership win last season.

But any move to delay contract talks throughout this season from Johannisen, 24, will heighten strong interest from rival clubs, especially from his home state of Western Australia.

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Johannisen’s next deal is estimated to be worth more than $500,000 a year at the kennel - more than double the value of his last contract which he signed in 2014, when the former rookie had played less than 30 AFL games.

The Dogs remain confident the opportunity to enjoy more premiership success and brilliant team chemistry at Whitten Oval will significantly outweigh the temptation to earn more money elsewhere.


Norm Smith medallist Jason Johannisen’s next deal could be worth double. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Dual premiership North Melbourne defender and AFL analyst David King backed the club to keep Johannisen, but said not all of its young stars could earn big dollars as the Dogs attempt to balance their books.

“They have got to find a way to try and satisfy all of them, (Marcus) Bontempelli, (Luke) Dahlhaus, (Tom) Liberatore, (Jackson) Macrae, even guys like Clay Smith got rolling last season,” King told the Herald Sun.

“But the bottom line is when you go out and recruit a guy like Tom Boyd on the money we all know he is on, and no doubt they have done it for the right reasons - to win a flag and they did it with him (Boyd) being as instrumental as he was.

“But what it does do is it raises the bar in terms of what players think they are entitled to and what they think the club can afford.”

Johannisen finished 10th in the best and fairest despite missing 10 games with a severe hamstring injury and narrowly pipped Boyd for the Norm Smith Medal, gathering 33 possessions against Sydney Swans in the decider.



Johannisen at training last month. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Johannisen is one the few Bulldogs’ young guns who comes out of contract this year, along with fullback Marcus Adams, midfielders Caleb Daniel and Clay Smith and returning forward Stewart Crameri.

The club remains highly confident it will keep the South African-born defender as its young list targets back-to-back premierships under coach Luke Beveridge.

The club has cleverly locked away the bulk of its top-line young talents to long-term deals under premiership list boss Jason McCartney, helping protect the star youngsters from poaching raids.

Future captain Bontempelli (2019), Lachie Hunter (2019), Jake Stringer (2018), Macrae (2018), Dahlhaus (2018), Liberatore (2018) and Jordan Roughead (2018) have all inked multi-year deals.

Johannisen blossomed into one of the AFL’s most damaging running defenders during a breakout 2016 season, averaging 24 possessions a game.

The 64-gamer was ranked ninth for uncontested possessions of all general defenders in the league and was classified as an “above average” player by AFL statisticians Champion Data.

Favourite son Liam Picken, who is out of contract and a free agent at season’s end, is also expected to re-sign after another excellent season.

Veteran captain Robert Murphy is also out of contract at season’s end as he eyes a Round 1 comeback from a knee reconstruction.


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If we can re-sign JJ for $500k it's a good result.
 
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