What would a Dutton Liberal leadership mean for the Liberals and the country?

[nut]

What does firm up renewables mean? …. Is it Barnaby after a few beers at a strip club?

 

[Festerz]

Dutton speaking to investors interested in laying cash down for the chance to participate in his plan for the development of an Australian nuclear energy industry:

 

[Demonic Ascent]

He is so screwed.

Liberals will lose seats at the next election of this is what they are going on. Idiots.

Let's hope so, I want to see them obliterated like in WA, hopefully then they will realise what a joke and how irrelevant they now are.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

He won’t tell you but **** to prolong the coal generation longer probably in their minds till these damn scientists see sense

To continue mining for coal in the interim and because those same coal owners likely also own the uranium mines

Oh 100% that's why, I'm just wondering how he's going to sell it if asked the question. Does the LNP now accept the consensus of the scientific community on man made climate change? If so how will the nuclear option help us meet our climate targets?

 

[Millky95]

Oh 100% that's why, I'm just wondering how he's going to sell it if asked the question. Does the LNP now accept the consensus of the scientific community on man made climate change? If so how will the nuclear option help us meet our climate targets?

We don't have enough real journalists left in the country that would even ask him that

And I would love to be proven wrong

 

[Harro59]

Let's hope so, I want to see them obliterated like in WA, hopefully then they will realise what a joke and how irrelevant they now are.

That's not likely to happen. Lose a few seats yes, but a WA type of implosion won't happen.

There's always that core base that will always be LNP at federal level, no matter how bat crap crazy they get.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

That's not likely to happen. Lose a few seats yes, but a WA type of implosion won't happen.

There's always that core base that will always be LNP at federal level, no matter how bat crap crazy they get.

I know, but one can hope - especially if the Teals give them more trouble

 

[geoffjennings79]

I'd just like to see Dutton lose his seat on election night... preferably called by Antony Green at about 6:15pm... leaving Susssan Ley as the senior Liberal.

 

[peetoo]

Problem for lnp in teal seats is the teal votes aren’t just ‘misguided liberal voters’ they are ALP And Green voters voting tactically.
LNP vote has been dying in this area over several elections. They were safe and are now probably permanently marginal.

What’s to say More ALP and Green voters won’t also switch making the teal primary vote unassailable by LNP? Even if they can reverse the trend of falling primary vote?

In Kooyong, half the electorate, the state seat of Hawthorn, returned an ALP candidate one time

 

[Theseventhhamster]

This is the script Gina gave him. Good luck *******!

 

[Gough]

That positive, agile, go getting getting attitude of if you don't know vote no that we all love so much about Dutts has been jettisoned when it comes to nuclear power and good old Australian exceptionism is back on the table, we're going to do what no country in the world has done and get nuclear power up and running inside ten years. If the Opposition want a "mature" discussion, how about this as a starting point, you can't be serious about governing and this at the same time.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Dutton speaking to investors interested in laying cash down for the chance to participate in his plan for the development of an Australian nuclear energy industry:

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I suppose at least it was a covid safe presentation

 

[Rob R]

He is so screwed.

Liberals will lose seats at the next election of this is what they are going on. Idiots.

He is beyond screwed, even if he is doing donors wishes surely they know he actually has to win power to do anything and his policies all make that less likely.

It's like someone wrote him a list of things the electorate cares about that he could use to win votes (cost of living, health, education, environemnt, crime, excessive immigration) and he decided to run with the list of what not to do.

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[Seeds]

What does firm up renewables mean? …. Is it Barnaby after a few beers at a strip club?

It means using batteries or hydro when the sun aint shining at night.

Which is still cheaper then nuclear.

 

[Festerz]

Not wanting to be out of the nuclear BS limelight, opposition finance spokesperson Jane Hume gets caught out lying..

 

[Gough]

Not wanting to be out of the nuclear BS limelight, opposition finance spokesperson Jane Hume gets caught out lying..

The Libs are quite literally the party of the pub bore now. They've got the answer for everything and the solution to nothing.

 

[Festerz]

What does firm up renewables mean?

I think the best response to that question comes from Turnbull (spoiler alert - nuclear energy does nothing of the sort in the Australian context)

 

[nut]

Aren’t they meant to be the superior economic managers?
Why would they want to commit Australians to higher energy costs and tax subsidies to nuclear power stations…. ?

 

[peetoo]

It means using batteries or hydro when the sun aint shining at night.

Which is still cheaper then nuclear.

Coal power stations with massive open cast mine holes nearby can conceivably used for pumped hydro storage too, and rehab the area better than a nuclear power zone

 

[QuietB]

He is beyond screwed, even if he is doing donors wishes surely they know he actually has to win power to do anything and his policies all make that less likely.

It's like someone wrote him a list of things the electorate cares about that he could use to win votes (cost of living, health, education, environemnt, crime, excessive immigration) and he decided to run with the list of what not to do.

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I was thinking about this last night - do the Liberals have to win power to be effective?

The Liberal Party is entirely captured by special interest groups, more specifically they are captured by the elite in Australia and the USA. These elite own all the media, they own all the conservative think tanks, they own the capital, they own everything.

Having the Liberals in power is obviously their preference as then they get even more of what they want. But just having Dutton doing what he is doing drives the country further right.

This was evidenced in the Voice referendum where Australians fell into line and gave the elite precisely what they wanted - less influence from a rival interest group in mining and agriculture - in this case First Australians who have an interest in the same land.

Driving the country endlessly further right also moves Labor further right as well. Labor are almost entirely hamstrung by the power the conservative lobby groups and media yields.

So Dutton does not have to win for the Elites to win. As long as Labor fall into line (which they do) due to whatever external pressure the elites can apply through lobbying and the media they really don't care who is in government.

Dutton's only role is the supply more fear and more outrage which is nothing more than more content for the elites to keep pressure on Labor.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Not wanting to be out of the nuclear BS limelight, opposition finance spokesperson Jane Hume gets caught out lying..

They are a ******* rabble and a joke, if they didn't have the backing of the media they would be an unelectable fringe party. Seriously, people who vote for these shysters should be embarrassed.

They should be in a heavy rebuild phase, go to the draft, renew the list and do some heavy lifting on their culture. Do an internal review on what they stand for as a club party and come up with an actual vision for the country and develop some policies around that instead of just doing whatever Gina and Rupert want them to do and being the party of opposition in the strict sense of the word.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Aren’t they meant to be the superior economic managers?
Why would they want to commit Australians to higher energy costs and tax subsidies to nuclear power stations…. ?

I think that myth was well and truly busted over the last decade. National debt soared under the Coalition and that was even before covid.

 

[kalex6251]

set up a nuclear waste site in the maranoa electorate .... lets stress test how supportive the nats are for nuclear energy

 

[peetoo]

I think the best response to that question comes from Turnbull (spoiler alert - nuclear energy does nothing of the sort in the Australian context)

Maybe they could store the excess nuclear power? In pumped hydro?

 

[Festerz]

The idiotic nuclear energy policy isn't going as well for Dutt's as he'd hoped.

And just like that an old favourite is back to the top of the former copper's speaking agenda - GANG VIOLENCE!!!!

'Dutton said the federal government was not traditionally involved in dealing with street crime but needed to step up and show leadership to assist state authorities and protect nervous families.'

“Youth crime is out of control in many parts of our country and more needs to be done to combat it,” Dutton said in a written statement ahead of Thursday’s announcement.

'The opposition will next week propose a private members bill, modelled off a draft bill floated by Toowoomba based opposition backbencher Garth Hamilton, in an aim to put pressure on Labor to debate youth crime.'

Hamilton has previously written for the Spectator magazine about issues related to domestic and youth violence in Aboriginal communities.

Crime for clicks: Dutton wants to outlaw gang violence videos

The federal opposition leader is proposing a new offence to clamp down on the growing trend of “posting and boasting”, which police in Victoria, NSW and Queensland are worried is spawning copycat offending.

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