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How did you go against Freo in Perth this year??
Every year 10 teams find it difficult to finish in the 8, Carlton is always among them. Bbbbbbbbut next season will be different will it?
When will the Carlton FC Arrive? Part 2
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Every year 10 teams find it difficult to finish in the 8, Carlton is always among them. Bbbbbbbbut next season will be different will it?
Stupid dickhead question mate,Covid caused us to play Freo in Melbourne and we also had to play a home game in Sydney because of Covid.
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How is their salary cap going? They've made big contract offers to bring in McGovern, Williams, Martin, Saad and now Cerra. Cripps, McKay and Weitering have signed big deals recently and Walsh will get enormous offers.
That's 9 guys on very high end contracts. Hard to see how they fit them all in without somebody missing out. McGovern has 2 more years but Walsh will more than make up for any savings there. Feels like they're going to hit trouble at some point.
That's 9 guys on very high end contracts. Hard to see how they fit them all in without somebody missing out. McGovern has 2 more years but Walsh will more than make up for any savings there. Feels like they're going to hit trouble at some point.
We also beat Freo in Perth in 2020 didn't we haha.
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And lost to half a West Coast team away in Sydney.
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Didn’t play Freo in Perth this year, beat them in WA in 2019 and 2020 though.
Anywhere, anytime with the Dockers.
Thanks for the info mate, I'm sure you'll feel better for that.
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Not my problem a number of Carlton supporters are making weird takes about how easy it’ll be to make the 8, despite Carlton not finishing inside the 8 for how long?
Supporters are supporters mate, I've read the Bombers board and you all just as crazy as Carlton supporters.
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Ladder changes happen every year mate.
Not a big stretch to suggest we will be in the mix with a new coaching group and a couple of decent players being added to the squad.
Essendon made the finals this year and they are a pretty average team the Blues had no issues belting.
Boring campaigners are going to be boring campaigners though.
It's completely fine. The contracts for Martin and Saad are not big money, they are just public. McGovern finishes next year and was front loaded. Walsh doesn't have a big contract and won't until 2023. And beyond those we have almost zero players in the 24-30 range of anything other than bargain contracts. That's the area where clubs stack big money - most teams have 8-10 guys in that age bracket earning basically thr same as Jack Martin just by virtue of being good and rqching that point in their career. We have Jack Newnes and Nick Newman earning relative peanuts.
If our 21-24 year olds like De Koning, Setterfield, Dow, O'brien, Fisher, etc make a big leap in the next two years and earn themselves big next contracts then that's where we will struggle to keep them all. And And know what? If enough of those guys earn that for themselves (as McKay did this year) that's a very pleasant problem for us to have cos it probably means we are competing for premierships.
As Carlton should expect to make the 8.
Given almost half the comp makes the finals its not that Herculean an achievement
Carlton can absolutely make finals next year and fine to expect it internally, still don't think they needed to say it publicly though. Could easily significantly improve in 2022 and not make it (Which is what I think they'll do, they should push hard 2023 onwards).
When you look at the context of Sayer's comment about making finals the question was more about whether Carlton were rebuilding or not.
He replied that we are 'looking to make finals' next year which is not the same as 'expecting'. And I think that's absolutely right. We should be aiming for finals next year - as should 17 or so other teams.
Had he said ' we think it will take more than 12 months so we are just hoping to finish 12th again' that would have been far worse imo.
He replied that we are 'looking to make finals' next year which is not the same as 'expecting'. And I think that's absolutely right. We should be aiming for finals next year - as should 17 or so other teams.
Had he said ' we think it will take more than 12 months so we are just hoping to finish 12th again' that would have been far worse imo.
16 points is a belting? Lmao that's genuinely hilarious.
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You post the most idiotic stuff and wonder why everyone treats you the way they do.
Carlton haven’t finished inside the 8 for a decade.
Gee, I thought this was Melbourne‘s list you were describing for a second there Fadge.
Really? Who are the Carlton equivalents of these players:
Jake Bowey (Pick 21)
Trent Rivers (Pick 32)
Tom Sparrow (Pick 27)
James Jordan (Pick 33)
Charlie Spargo (Pick 29)
Bailey Fritsch (Pick 31)
Harrison Petty (Pick 37)
James Harmes (Rookie Pick 2)
Alex Neal-Bullen (Pick 40)
Tom McDonald (Pick 53)
Max Gawn (Pick 34)
These 11 players played in their 2021 Premiership team.
I have excluded:
Jack Viney (Pick 26) Father-Son (he was originally a pick 7 bid from Port Adelaide)
Mitch Hannon (Pick 46) (delisted from Doggies)
Joel Smith (Rookie Pick 41) - injured prior to Grand Final
Jayden Hunt (Pick 57) - unlucky to miss the Premiership team
When May fronted up to the Dees unfit and lacking the required standards of professionalism, including because IIRC he was going through a break up, Goodwin didn’t molly coddle him with the arm around the shoulder and tel him everything was going to be okay. He went down the tough love route. Teague would’ve down the opposite and May would probably have ended up as a BOG average defender.
You also made off field changes, including bringing in Williams. The people you assemble around the head coach are just as critical. Teague IMO could not cut it as a head coach but at the same time he was not helped by the assistants around him.
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RUOK?
St Kilda took almost a decade to re-enter the finals race, Brisbane likewise up to 2019.
Melbourne took over a decade to get back into finals contention following an incredibly bleak period. Now they are rolling.
Things don’t stay the same forever, as much as you’d like them to. The Bombers may even win a final in the distant future.
Keep spinning those wheels though.
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Yeah I wouldn’t know much about that, but I was always quite impressed when Teague spoke. Much more articulate than Goodwin at least and seemed way more switched on than most AFL coaches. I’m not sure how he would have handled May in those circumstances, but some credit has to go to May for getting himself right too.
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You really are a lost cause.
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Compare these two responses to my comment, and consider why they get different reactions from people:
This one, a bit of humour, recognises that it's doable, doesn't come across like a douchebag.
This one, posts like a flog, zero humour, no recognition that it's maybe not so easy given your clubs history, comes across like a douchebag.
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