Society/Culture Woke. Can you tell real from parody?

[Chief]

Rolled over to Part 2:

Society/Culture - Woke. Can you tell real from parody? - Part 2 -

Potatoes have no gender. And soon, nearly 70 years (sic), the name of Hasbro’s popular spud-shaped toy will reflect that: No more Mr. Potato Head. It’s just Potato Head. On Thursday, the company announced it would be rebranding the iconic quick-change toy to break away from traditional ideas...

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[Ghost Patrol]

I don’t think that’s what it means homie

That's kinda the point I'm making, you aren't really thinking about it.

Just jumping on an outrage wagon without reading the instructions.

 

[ElectricG]

That's kinda the point I'm making, you aren't really thinking about it.

Just jumping on an outrage wagon without reading the instructions.

I don’t think you can circumvent these constraints (and they are constraints) by putting obese redheads in it. You might be right - I can’t be bothered doing the further reading.
I think either way it’s perverse and weird that the arts are subject to these sprawling standards, as if they’re engineering requirements for building a bridge or something. In my view the criteria should be:

Your film should be:
A. A good film.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I don’t think you can circumvent these constraints (and they are constraints) by putting obese redheads in it. You might be right - I can’t be bothered doing the further reading.
I think either way it’s perverse and weird that the arts are subject to these sprawling standards, as if they’re engineering requirements for building a bridge or something. In my view the criteria should be:

Your film should be:
A. A good film.

It seems to only relate to one type of funding, and perhaps award eligibility.

So as others in here suggest, the 'unwoke' films which are apparently where all the money is made, shouldn't need government funding or woke awards to succeed. Because apparently the market supports those unwoke films regardless of criteria.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Under represented groups could include - an actor with red hair, obesity, baldness, freckles etc etc.

There is a lot of scope within that criteria. Creative people could work around it quite easily.

Parody.

 

[ElectricG]

It seems to only relate to one type of funding, and perhaps award eligibility.

So as others in here suggest, the 'unwoke' films which are apparently where all the money is made, shouldn't need government funding or woke awards to succeed. Because apparently the market supports those unwoke films regardless of criteria.

Yeah okay that sounds fair enough. You’re right, I’m wrong etc.

 

[Eagle Wrath]

Under represented groups could include - an actor with red hair, obesity, baldness, freckles etc etc.

There is a lot of scope within that criteria. Creative people could work around it quite easily.

Only if its a she with short red hair. Baldness would have to also be a minority group or a cancer survivor.
Obesity should never be promoted but yes, the far left seem to think they are victims of something.

And this under represented idea is a woke ideology. Should be the best actor, writer etc you can get. If that happens to be someone from a minority group, the majority would not care but we know that isnt the case.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Only if its a she with short red hair. Baldness would have to also be a minority group or a cancer survivor.
Obesity should never be promoted but yes, the far left seem to think they are victims of something.

And this under represented idea is a woke ideology. Should be the best actor, writer etc you can get. If that happens to be someone from a minority group, the majority would not care but we know that isnt the case.

It specifies under represented, not minority. There is a difference.

 

[Eagle Wrath]

It specifies under represented, not minority. There is a difference.

You are correct on the definition but in practice, we know that isn't the case. If you are white and especially a white male, you are out. Particularly in the film industry.

Hollywood fears wokeness will kill it: PETER KIEFER & PETER SAVODNIK

KIEFER and SAVODNIK: We spoke to more than 25 writers, directors, and producers-all of whom identify as liberal, and all of whom described a pervasive fear of running afoul of the new dogma.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Scotland]

The diversity bean counters totally lost control years ago. The whole point of diversity in media is that it's not just the same straight white men in every film, reading the news, on the radio etc. Now they can't measure anything on merit without holding up a diversity checklist. But Hamilton is stunning and brave.

 

[happy_eagle]

 

[Eagle Wrath]

New superman comics havnt sold in shops apparently. I cant work out why.

 

[The Passenger]

You are correct on the definition but in practice, we know that isn't the case. If you are white and especially a white male, you are out. Particularly in the film industry.

Totally

 

[Eagle Wrath]

Totally

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That doesnt prove me wrong about Hollywood movies and how you now need to tick the boxes to get a gig. Esp in the last few years.
And Hopkins is a star. Malek is Egyptian or something too,

U must have your eyes and ears shut if u think its the best actors featuring in movies these days and not an agenda. Just go through all the remakes coming out for starters.

 

[The Passenger]

That doesnt prove me wrong about Hollywood movies and how you now need to tick the boxes to get a gig. Esp in the last few years.
And Hopkins is a star. Malek is Egyptian or something too,

U must have your eyes and ears shut if u think its the best actors featuring in movies these days and not an agenda. Just go through all the remakes coming out for starters.

Sorry I got in the way of your white male victimhood.

Carry on.

 

[Eagle Wrath]

Sorry I got in the way of your white male victimhood.

Carry on.

Typical answer. U forgot all the isms and ists too.

 

[yodellinhank]

Typical answer. U forgot all the isms and ists too.

Out of interest, who are the best actors who are missing out on gigs?

 

[happy_eagle]

Out of interest, who are the best actors who are missing out on gigs?

Tim Allen

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Out of interest, who are the best actors who are missing out on gigs?

River Phoenix

 

[ChampRevesby]

Out of interest, who are the best actors who are missing out on gigs?

Henry Cavill as 007 or there will be a riot!

 

[hoianbulldog]

Under represented groups could include - an actor with red hair, obesity, baldness, freckles etc etc.

There is a lot of scope within that criteria. Creative people could work around it quite easily.

A sitcom taking the piss out of people with "red hair, obesity, baldness, freckles etc"?

 

[The Passenger]

Typical answer. U forgot all the isms and ists too.

If you're going to play victim, expect to get spoken down to.

But hey, definitely no place for us whites in the film industry.

 

[Eagle Wrath]

If you're going to play victim, expect to get spoken down to.

But hey, definitely no place for us whites in the film industry.

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Nice cherry picking hahahaha

 

[The Passenger]

Nice cherry picking hahahaha

Cherry picking 6 of the biggest movies of 2021.

Good one, chump.

I'm sure you'll find something else to be persecuted over.

 

[ElectricG]

Cherry picking 6 of the biggest movies of 2021.

Good one, chump.

I'm sure you'll find something else to be persecuted over.

Don’t all of these feature minorities except for bond?

 

[The Passenger]

Don’t all of these feature minorities except for bond?

So? They feature plenty of white actors. Plenty of white male actors as well.

The point of contention being that if you are white and male, your are out. Especially in the film industry.

To anyone tethered to reality that statement is obviously a crock of s**t.