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Society/Culture Working from home vs forced back to the office

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Gethelred

Moderator
May 1, 2016
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Yeah but you're a filthy liberal who just wants to get a free ride sponging off the hard work of upstanding conservative citizens.
Donald Trump Republicans GIF by Election 2016
 

peetoo

Norm Smith Medallist
Nov 10, 2022
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Surprised there hasn’t been more cyber attacks with huge amounts of people connecting remotely

Most organisations approach to cyber security is based on having a cyber perimeter, which doesn’t really exist any more


Maybe organisations are scared to admit it publicly
 

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owen87

Hall of Famer
Apr 23, 2016
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Surprised there hasn’t been more cyber attacks with huge amounts of people connecting remotely

Most organisations approach to cyber security is based on having a cyber perimeter, which doesn’t really exist any more


Maybe organisations are scared to admit it publicly

How many organisations would even know? If you don't have / store valuable data they might simply get in then move on to something else.
 

Carn The Berries

Club Legend
Sep 16, 2008
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Perth
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Surprised there hasn’t been more cyber attacks with huge amounts of people connecting remotely

Most organisations approach to cyber security is based on having a cyber perimeter, which doesn’t really exist any more


Maybe organisations are scared to admit it publicly
Pretty much every organisation I know of makes use of VPN connections to access server information. This is the equivalent of a cyber barrier.

Any who don't operate this way are just asking for trouble.
 

peetoo

Norm Smith Medallist
Nov 10, 2022
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Pretty much every organisation I know of makes use of VPN connections to access server information. This is the equivalent of a cyber barrier.

Any who don't operate this way are just asking for trouble.

Simple eh? Maybe not
 

peetoo

Norm Smith Medallist
Nov 10, 2022
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They were encouraging it, at least part time.

Congestion in travel
 

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Rotayjay

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Aug 28, 2014
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Surprised there hasn’t been more cyber attacks with huge amounts of people connecting remotely

Most organisations approach to cyber security is based on having a cyber perimeter, which doesn’t really exist any more


Maybe organisations are scared to admit it publicly
Most data breaches never come to light.

Our new office will have capacity for 80% of staff to be there at once, as opposed to the current 100% which is never fully used.
 

Cap

TheBrownDog
Jul 27, 2004
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Most data breaches never come to light.

Our new office will have capacity for 80% of staff to be there at once, as opposed to the current 100% which is never fully used.
Most are dumbshits on email responding to phishing too.

I assume most of those would be people who aren't capable of working from home too 🤣
 

Golden_6

Norm Smith Medallist
Aug 15, 2014
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I’m firmly in the camp of backing hybrid models but understand each individual has a unique set of circumstances. 2 days WFH (Monday/Thursday) and 3 in the office is a good balance for me and I get the best of both worlds.

I still experience the office culture, attend all necessary meetings in person and get to socialise with colleagues on Friday’s etc.

On Mondays I get to work from home. I’m significantly more productive distraction free at home and get to set up my entire week in terms of home life so everything else runs smoothly.
 

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Norm Smith Medallist
Nov 10, 2022
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IF it was done from home, you'd have to look for any cost benefit from off shoring the task.

Or working out if the task is neccesary

Trouble with that is strategy and hr roles would be decimated, and they are the ones running ‘culture’
 

Kwality

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Aug 14, 2011
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Or working out if the task is neccesary

Trouble with that is strategy and hr roles would be decimated, and they are the ones running ‘culture’
Culture is less important than profit UNLESS the trough is taxpayer funded, & even that is impacted by higher interest rates.
 

Wooden Robot

Club Legend
Feb 6, 2019
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Why is anyone still working from home anyway?

To avoid bullshit office politics and being made to drink the company Kool-Aid.

I like what I do, not who I do it for (well, I don't do it to further the company, I do it for clients and my own personal satisfaction).

I don't have a lot in common with most people at my work - not that I am not nice to them, anything but - but not a crowd I like spending a lot of time among.
 

bzparkes

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May 2, 2006
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Why wouldn't you work from home if you had the option?

$50 a week in public transport saved, never mind the cost of petrol/parking if you drive.

Then there's the resisted temptation to eat out during lunch. That alone will probably save you $80+ per week.

So you've already saved $130 per week by avoiding the office.

If pay increases aren't going to match inflation, then you need to save wherever you can.

Sure from a business standpoint it's better also. The company I work for is moving office as part of a merger but the current CBD office costs $1 million per annum for an office that can accommodate around 100 people.

You'd be lucky if 15 people are there on a daily basis. Such a waste of money.
 

Wooden Robot

Club Legend
Feb 6, 2019
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Why wouldn't you work from home if you had the option?

$50 a week in public transport saved, never mind the cost of petrol/parking if you drive.

Then there's the resisted temptation to eat out during lunch. That alone will probably save you $80+ per week.

So you've already saved $130 per week by avoiding the office.

If pay increases aren't going to match inflation, then you need to save wherever you can.

Sure from a business standpoint it's better also. The company I work for is moving office as part of a merger but the current CBD office costs $1 million per annum for an office that can accommodate around 100 people.

You'd be lucky if 15 people are there on a daily basis. Such a waste of money.
Mind you, your power bill is $50 a week more at home.
 

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