fair call but I disagree on his value as I certainly rate him inside the top 10 of the 2015 draft... but clearly a 2nd round pick is not good enough?
Traded James Aish [traded to Collingwood for #26 and St Kilda's 2016 second round pick]
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fair call but I disagree on his value as I certainly rate him inside the top 10 of the 2015 draft... but clearly a 2nd round pick is not good enough?
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You don't have the players or the picks to get the deal done though so off to Carlton James will go
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Well we don't want a mid 20s pick and a VFL player. If Collingwood want him badly enough, they'll have to make an offer too good to refuse.
wait and see what the pies can package together... but I cant see why the Lions should be bother from changing their stance if 2nd round stuff is tabled up. Fingers crossed the Crows come back into the picture
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Pick 13 from the Crows would be best for all parties you'd imagine.
Crows need a smooth outside mid.
Lions save face/get a good pick.
Aish gets to one of his (presumed) preferred clubs.
Crows need a smooth outside mid.
Lions save face/get a good pick.
Aish gets to one of his (presumed) preferred clubs.
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If you're referring to Ox, he played 17 senior games this year. Hardly a 'VFL player'. Given your mob is rumoured to be chasing him hard, I think that you and your club aren't really on the same page.
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I'm curious between yourself, BRAB, dlanod and TBD (when not s**t stirring) I feel like I'm most likely to get a rational response to this question.
Would you feel that the club were justified in their stance were he to get through to Collingwood via the ND?
To pre-empt the question of how we'll get that pick let Collingwood worry about that because that's where their energies will be spent. I'm moreso interested in how a Ross Lyon stance will be accepted in the washup.
I'm also acutely aware that this isn't an Aish/ Collingwood issue, but one of player retention I just have doubts on the benefits of this move aiding player retention.
Yep...Crows need to Wine & Dine the Aish's again
Aish said he wants to go to Victoria. So it will be Carlton for nothing or Collingwood for something.ie 2 second rounders
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Or he'll nominate for the ND, stipulate a one year contract and tell any club who picks him that he will request a trade the next year.
There are ways around these things. Pickering is a ruthless bastard, and he has a reputation for getting his players where they want to go.
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We won't be bending over backwards for him, and he won't be part of a mid 20s pick and Oxley trade. He's a back pocket depth player, sure we'll have him for nothing, but he ain't worth fighting over
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You don't chase depth players in trades, you chase players who you feel have a good chance of being best 22.
A lot of pies fans are having a good laugh at these kind of comments. It's pretty much the Crisp scenario last year reversed.
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If seedsman picks crows we could do:
pick 14(?) for seedsman+23
pick 14(?) for seedsman+23
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Crows won't do that in a hundred years.
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I dont get the Collingwoods fans massive overrating of Seedsman. He ISNT the second coming.
Out of interest, has there been much outside of Bigfooty that has mentioned Brisbane being interested in Oxley?
good question... TBH yesterday I was like "@#$% Yeah" in response to the Lions hardline stance. And although I still understand why they have that stance I think we should find a deal. Whether that is with the Pies or not
I would be pissed if Aish made it through to the pies 2nd round pick (26?) in the ND. It would make the Lions hard stance look stupid. I doubt that would happen. People bring up ball a lot but forget to remember he was nearing the end of his career and looked awful at the saints (not to say he was a bad player at the Pies/quite the opposite). Aish would have a heap of currency in the ND, and especially with the crows at pick 13 who would back themselves to keep Aish happy back in his home town
Still I struggle atm to see how the Pies can put up an adequate deal knowing they will need a big deal to get Treloar in... This could just get messy with the Lions either sticking to the "No trade" stance or asking for a 1st round pick (10-15?), and then the Pies arguing a player should get to where they want to go despite potentially not having much to offer on the trade table
For the Lions Aish couldnt have picked a worse club to ask to be traded too
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Just another plodder, maybe they can package him up with Oxley and Jessie White so we can get our NEAFL team back on track
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i dont rate him at all, but crows might given they are chasing him. its getting him for a 9 pick downgrade
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Not that I've seen, which is why I was at pains to put the word 'rumoured' in my sentence.
It's certainly very plausible though. Ox is out of contract, and a Qld boy who's just had somewhat of a breakout year. I don't think anyone would be shocked if he announced he wanted to go to the Lions.
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yes and our recruiter said last season once we've made an offer to a player we feel it is our obligation to ensure we get them so they aren't left out in the dark.
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Have you seen your team mate, they would all finish top 10 in Brisbanes best and fairest.
Banter aside, Oxley would easily be best 22 for Brisbane.
Mapped with whom? Presumably not the Lions?
I understand that...Hence why I said fingers crossed the crows come back into the picture
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