Club Focus Fremantle 2023

[Taylor]

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[marcmurphy3]

Is something happening at Freo?

Henry, Schulz and potentially Darcy seeking new homes.

It can't just be a coincidence. There have been so many players over the past 3-4 years. And it's not because they are an interstate club. Players rarely leave West Coast, and they are really poor at the moment. Adelaide are rebuilding and have actually been able to attract talent. Port Adelaide has a great player retention record.

Rather than playing tough over Schulz the club should facilitate his request (still with adequate compo) and then look inwards. It feels like they are always blaming external factors. The Lions did this after the go home 5 and have been great with player retention ever since.

Fremantle have the makings of a great list and could jump up the ladder as soon as next year but need to be honest with themselves or they will keep leaking talent forcing them into a constant rebuilding cycle.

 

[Freomaniac]

So, you think players are pessimistic about getting back to finals, after getting there in 2022 but missing (badly) in 2023?

You tell me

 

[Freomaniac]

It can't just be a coincidence. There have been so many players over the past 3-4 years. And it's not because they are an interstate club. Players rarely leave West Coast, and they are really poor at the moment. Adelaide are rebuilding and have actually been able to attract talent. Port Adelaide has a great player retention record.

Rather than playing tough over Schulz the club should facilitate his request (still with adequate compo) and then look inwards. It feels like they are always blaming external factors. The Lions did this after the go home 5 and have been great with player retention ever since.

Fremantle have the makings of a great list and could jump up the ladder as soon as next year but need to be honest with themselves or they will keep leaking talent forcing them into a constant rebuilding cycle.

Well I remember around 2004-2012, players constantly left the crows like Tyson Stenglein, Martin Matter, jack Gunston, Phil Davis and Kurt Tippett.

 

[Freomaniac]

So, you think players are pessimistic about getting back to finals, after getting there in 2022 but missing (badly) in 2023?

Missing finals in 2023 sucked. 10 wins and 13 losses sucked but there was a 3 win gap between 5th placed Carlton and 14th placed Freo

 

[Giant Strides]

Missing finals in 2023 sucked. 10 wins and 13 losses sucked but there was a 3 win gap between 5th placed Carlton and 14th placed Freo

Yep, fair enough. I guess it was more looking at it from the perspective that most media had Freo as a top 4 contender on the back of 2022's performance. But I agree the lower half of the 8 and just outside was incredibly close.

 

[Jeremias]

Rather than playing tough over Schulz the club should facilitate his request (still with adequate compo) and then look inwards. It feels like they are always blaming external factors. The Lions did this after the go home 5 and have been great with player retention ever since.

There is room to do both at the same time.

How many of the “go home 5” were contracted?

 

[Lionheart182]

There is room to do both at the same time.

How many of the “go home 5” were contracted?

None

 

[Jeremias]

None

Right. So I'm not sure how the situations are comparable, other than the obvious both being retention issues.

 

[Lionheart182]

Right. So I'm not sure how the situations are comparable, other than the obvious both being retention issues.

I'm not the poster of that original comment but we did go through a massive club overhaul a few years later getting Noble, Fagan and Swann in, assume that poster is suggesting Freo would need something similar to improve their current culture

 

[Joao]

OK, so what's up with Fremantle? Lachie Schultz now wants out. Seems to be a consistent bleeding of players the last couple of years, notwithstanding their coup in grabbing Jackson from Melbourne.

Honest question for Freo fans - as a GWS fan I know (and hate) that feeling - why is it happening now?

I'm taking this on face value that the family issues are real.

The rest I'm not sure.

 

[Jeremias]

In: N/A

Out: Lachie Schultz, Liam Henry, Joel Hamling

29

Joel Hamling

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.2

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.8

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.0

3star

Draft Picks: 34, 46, 60, 64, 85

Another year, another mini-exodus with 3 players out the door, 2 of whom will be missed.

How are Freo fans feeling after the Schultz move in particular that caught all of us by surprise?

Not a great draft haul for the Dockers in 2023, but they appear very well placed in 2024 with 3 x 1st round picks. What are they planning?

 

[Joao]

In: N/A

Out: Lachie Schultz, Liam Henry, Joel Hamling

Draft Picks: 34, 46, 60, 64, 85

Another year, another mini-exodus with 3 players out the door, 2 of whom will be missed.

How are Freo fans feeling after the Schultz move in particular that caught all of us by surprise?

Not a great draft haul for the Dockers in 2023, but they appear very well placed in 2024 with 3 x 1st round picks. What are they planning?

We clearly rate the 2024 draft more than 2023 and/or are position for trades next year. I think more the latter given our targeting of WA players high in the draft lately and the absolutely dearth (apparently) of WA kids in 2024's top end.

Schultz is a loss but unless we greatly improve many other things with the way the forwardline functions, its really cents in the dollar squabbling over 34 goals.

Henry improved out of sight in the back half, and is currently way better than anyone else available to play wing although that could change quickly as Liam himself showed.

TLDR: the draft will be boring this year but I am not sure much has changed for us in the 2024 season. Many other Freo fans disagree and think the sky has fallen.

 

[garlic munchers]

Is something happening at Freo?

Henry, Schulz and potentially Darcy seeking new homes.

Is something happening at Freo?

Cockburn.... something to avoid if possible.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

In: N/A

Out: Lachie Schultz, Liam Henry, Joel Hamling

Draft Picks: 34, 46, 60, 64, 85

Another year, another mini-exodus with 3 players out the door, 2 of whom will be missed.

How are Freo fans feeling after the Schultz move in particular that caught all of us by surprise?

Not a great draft haul for the Dockers in 2023, but they appear very well placed in 2024 with 3 x 1st round picks. What are they planning?

Freo appear to be happy to go backwards for a few years to hopefully go forward.

Have shed quite a bit of experienced depth over past 2 years & banked 3x 1sts for next year's draft.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Got decent to very good raw value out of the Port and Schultz trade but it seems bizarre to basically lose two best 22 players and a good depth played to currently have one top 40 pick...

JL would want a contract basically signed given the hand he just got dealt

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Looking forward to potentially death riding 3 teams this year, would be fun

 

[Joao]

Looking forward to potentially death riding 3 teams this year, would be fun

Don't want us to live trade any of them as it would be way more fun enjoying every Pies or Port loss, however few of them there are.

 

[Kanye West]

In: N/A

Out: Lachie Schultz, Liam Henry, Joel Hamling

Draft Picks: 34, 46, 60, 64, 85

Another year, another mini-exodus with 3 players out the door, 2 of whom will be missed.

How are Freo fans feeling after the Schultz move in particular that caught all of us by surprise?

Not a great draft haul for the Dockers in 2023, but they appear very well placed in 2024 with 3 x 1st round picks. What are they planning?

Lachie leaving is s**t, there's no denying that. Tommy Emmett, it's your time my boy!

Henry wasn't a proven commodity. He strung together a few really good, promising games and its disappointing he chose to leave, but he's not Hayden Young or Caleb Serong spec!


Also, being best 22 in a team that finished 14th isn't the ultimate standard!

 

[Lingsface]

I’m surprised they didn’t target Georgiades after Schulz loss.

 

[Tugga27]

I’m surprised they didn’t target Georgiades after Schulz loss.

Maybe the fact that Georgiades signed a 4 year deal a month ago put them off.......

 

[Lingsface]

Maybe the fact that Georgiades signed a 4 year deal a month ago put them off.......

Would be on similar to Schulz and Henry though they could afford it a month ago there wasn’t interest either.

 

[Freomaniac]

Maybe the fact that Georgiades signed a 4 year deal a month ago put them off.......

He will be a free agent when that deal is done

 

[benfica]

It can't just be a coincidence. There have been so many players over the past 3-4 years. And it's not because they are an interstate club. Players rarely leave West Coast, and they are really poor at the moment. Adelaide are rebuilding and have actually been able to attract talent. Port Adelaide has a great player retention record.

Rather than playing tough over Schulz the club should facilitate his request (still with adequate compo) and then look inwards. It feels like they are always blaming external factors. The Lions did this after the go home 5 and have been great with player retention ever since.

Fremantle have the makings of a great list and could jump up the ladder as soon as next year but need to be honest with themselves or they will keep leaking talent forcing them into a constant rebuilding cycle.

It's just a MYTH ....wouldn't read too much into it

 

[HFF]

Did I see today correctly that Freo are about to extend Sean Darcy

4

Sean Darcy

Age

25

Ht

203cm

Wt

111kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

28.8

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

20.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

32.0

5star

on a 7yr contract?

They should look at the Grundy disaster for a case study here I reckon.

 

[s_wd6]

Did I see today correctly that Freo are about to extend Sean Darcy on a 7yr contract?

They should look at the Grundy disaster for a case study here I reckon.

******* hell I hope not. 5 would've been plenty.