jmac70
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Anyone think Varcoe has much to worry about?
Autopsy Post game. Close but not quite. Pies down by 10
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It's because we are sick of him bringing "his" own ball to the game against us ALL the time
P.S I could never boo him he is a true champion.
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Hell no
yep 2 weeks
Huge statement last night by the Pies, in recent times Hawks have always carved them up, kicking 20+ goals each time... I kept expecting your players to tire out but they kept coming til the final siren...
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If he does then I give up after Franklin and Tippett only got a week each.
At the game, yes.
After watching on replay, not sure.
It looked a mile worse at the game.
Goal conversion is a an obvious thing that would have changed the result, but the recent trend is that the backline are getting opened up a little too often, and it has happened in a lot of games in the last 2 months. Still couldn't stop Hawks from kicking about 12 really loose goals which is the problem. Cyril kicked 4 goals from just happening to be the guy out by himself after some poor play around the middle, and his fifth was a head high dive that was a poor decision.
We were a 20% better side around the ground just didn't convert and our backs sagged off too far when they were transitioning.
We were a 20% better side around the ground just didn't convert and our backs sagged off too far when they were transitioning.
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Was being cautious because of what Scottabee Pendles had posted earlier..
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Well I'm not happy we lost I'm certainly not upset with an honourable loss. Fremantle & Hawthorn two teams that have had our number recently. Could we have won them both? Yes, did we? No.
The important thing to remember is that we've been competitive in most if not all of our games this year. That's a big step forward for me. There's a lot to work with and kicking for goal is #1 as it has been for a while. If we fix that I have no doubt the second half to the season will be great.
The important thing to remember is that we've been competitive in most if not all of our games this year. That's a big step forward for me. There's a lot to work with and kicking for goal is #1 as it has been for a while. If we fix that I have no doubt the second half to the season will be great.
jmac70
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Certainly low impact. Not sure what his record is like.
S'OK this morning. I have exorcised the anger.
I was concentrating only on the game itself. I'm only too fully aware of the emotional impact yesterday had on everyone - immediate family, friends, players, fans.
From the perspective only of a Collingwood fan I'm gutted we lost one we had in our grasp. From the perspective of a human being I thought the whole way yesterday was handled was extremely dignified and becoming of everyone involved.
I hope the rest of the round can continue with the removing of banners, songs, etc. Makes it more poignant in a way.
I do 2 lol
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Surely you jest. Cyril ducked his head at the last second to get the free. I thought they changed the rule and play on should have been called
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Still not happy about the loss last night.
"That" player that didn't have the fortitude to take that shot in the
last quarter has me still shaking my head.
Must beat Port next week.
"That" player that didn't have the fortitude to take that shot in the
last quarter has me still shaking my head.
Must beat Port next week.
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We won the clearances by 13, centre clearances by 5, had 5 more marks inside 50 and laid 10 more tackles. Hard to argue we weren't better around the ground last night. Our work in close with the handball is really good too, we broke away from congested areas fairly easily I thought.
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in all honesty when two players get low for a ball if both aren't side on someone is gonna get hit in the head. Don't know what you are supposed to do about that - in fact I think it is more on the front on player to get side on it is their head that is gonna get whacked after all.
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I think he could get a Weak. High Contact to the Head
Record? Who cares? He's not in read and white. Four weeks down to three.
Seriously, if he gets time for that after the Franklin decision it will confirm what we all suspect; that the AFL instructs the MRP what to do for "the sake of marketing".
It was a free kick. But doesn't deserve a suspension.
I was at the game last night and I was really pleased we played you guys. Two Victorian power teams showing respect for each other and playing the game the way it should be played. A hard fought, fast, skillful, close game all night. No pre-game hype (what a lovely change) and no cringe-worthy team songs after the match.
Collingwood is building and I suspect next year they will be strong premiership contenders. Kudos to Bucks and the coaching team.
Collingwood is building and I suspect next year they will be strong premiership contenders. Kudos to Bucks and the coaching team.
That's the loss that stings. Still feeling it the morning after.
2-9 in the third quarter, f**k me!
Hawthorn, like Freo, are the sides that if you don't take your chances, and if you make a slight error (i.e. Cloke's shocking handball to De Goey in the last, and Maynard's two errors that cost us two goals in the third), they'll make you pay.
I can forgive Maynard's errors, he's debuting. But for a senior player who has played 10 years, in three grand finals, knows exactly what pressure football is all about, and should be setting the example for the younger players, to continually make the most basic of errors at the most important time of the game - absolutely unforgivable.
I just hope two losses like that doesn't deflate the team and we go missing next week. No excuses, we should beat Port and we should go in favourites.
2-9 in the third quarter, f**k me!
Hawthorn, like Freo, are the sides that if you don't take your chances, and if you make a slight error (i.e. Cloke's shocking handball to De Goey in the last, and Maynard's two errors that cost us two goals in the third), they'll make you pay.
I can forgive Maynard's errors, he's debuting. But for a senior player who has played 10 years, in three grand finals, knows exactly what pressure football is all about, and should be setting the example for the younger players, to continually make the most basic of errors at the most important time of the game - absolutely unforgivable.
I just hope two losses like that doesn't deflate the team and we go missing next week. No excuses, we should beat Port and we should go in favourites.
Good post, there was a piece of play in our game against freo where Pendlebury done just that, he turned his body and ended up coming away from the contest with the footy. Remember the commentators saying that's how it should be done.
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For positive views, see that thread. For negatives, think Jesse White. He got the ball enough to be judged as playing well, and up the ground, he certainly did so. The mental weakness that saw him decline to take the shot late in Q4, and try an unsuccessful pass to a badly placed Swan says all too much about why Sydney didn't want to keep him. Cloke misses frequently, but he never declines a chance to shoot for goal.
Jamie Elliott had a poor one. He was closely watched, and didn't handle it. With Moore in the team, he should not have been flying either. The forward structure was different this week, and Elliott was rarely a target. He didn't crumb well.
We got a tough trot from the umpires, with several marks disallowed, and several dodgy frees to Hawthorn got them goals. We only had one such.
It was frustrating throughout the game to see players get the ball, clutch it to their chests and try to barge though. They were given huge amounts of time to break tackles, and were not penalized if they failed to. Hawthorn got more benefit from this, but our players did it too. Early in the year, these events were rightly judged as holding the ball. Now they are not. The interpretation should be simple. If they get through, then it's good work. If they don't, it's holding the ball.
Biting back the disappointment of a second narrow loss, I have to say it all looks pretty good, and these two games went far better than anybody predicted even 3 weeks ago. It is a measure of the team's improvement, and our inconstancy and now burgeoning expectations, that we are in a position to feel disappointed by these results. The behaviour of our players under the greatest pressure available in the game at present has been outstanding. We look at the might have beens, when we should be very happy with what was. We aren't of course.
Jamie Elliott had a poor one. He was closely watched, and didn't handle it. With Moore in the team, he should not have been flying either. The forward structure was different this week, and Elliott was rarely a target. He didn't crumb well.
We got a tough trot from the umpires, with several marks disallowed, and several dodgy frees to Hawthorn got them goals. We only had one such.
It was frustrating throughout the game to see players get the ball, clutch it to their chests and try to barge though. They were given huge amounts of time to break tackles, and were not penalized if they failed to. Hawthorn got more benefit from this, but our players did it too. Early in the year, these events were rightly judged as holding the ball. Now they are not. The interpretation should be simple. If they get through, then it's good work. If they don't, it's holding the ball.
Biting back the disappointment of a second narrow loss, I have to say it all looks pretty good, and these two games went far better than anybody predicted even 3 weeks ago. It is a measure of the team's improvement, and our inconstancy and now burgeoning expectations, that we are in a position to feel disappointed by these results. The behaviour of our players under the greatest pressure available in the game at present has been outstanding. We look at the might have beens, when we should be very happy with what was. We aren't of course.
