Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

[McOrist]

When Goodes squealed about that young Collingwood fan he lost me. There was better ways to deal with that but he knows damn well being Aboriginal no one would question him because the issue is such a political hot potato.

Do not agree with this at all.

I was at the game when that incident happened.
He clearly heard the 'ape' comment from over the fence.
He is a leader of the aboriginal community. It was the opening game of the 'Indigenous Round'. What was he supposed to do -ignore it?? He'd be a poor leader if he did that -just accepting and soaking up another racist comment. If they all did that, the comments would just keep coming. Goodes took a stand in a week when we were supposedly celebrating aboriginal footballers, not racially abusing them.
He pointed out the person that said the comment. The fact that it was a young girl wasn't Goodes fault. She made the comment.
The girl apologised. Goodes accepted the apology. It was a big story at the time and the media played it up with newspaper and TV interviews.
It was a racist comment -she didn't call Mike Pyke an ape, even though he's bigger than Goodes. The girl learned a hard lesson, but I'll bet she never makes another racist comment at the footy -plus many others (although not all) would have stopped their racist comments -all due to Goodes bringing the issue to a head.

Why have an 'Indigenous Round' if we can't accept an indigenous leader speaking out. We don't have to agree with him, but he has the right to speak out.

 

[FRUMPY]

Lyndsay Thomas broke Gary Rohan's leg and has a history of playing for frees. But when Norths played the Swans, it was Adam Goodes that was booed.

There are many 'reasons' for the booing, but the feeling driving it is racism.

Interesting thing to say, seeming lyndsay Thomas is also aboriginal, so it makes your accusation wrong.

 

[bph25]

He was called a Gorilla on radio by the biggest power broker in the game. He is constantly the subject of racist taunts. His Wikipedia page is vandalized by monkeys. He is booed in every game he plays and slandered in the media and online.

And your suggestion is he should start praising people for how far they have come?

Well if goodes is hoping to live in a world filled with lolly pops and rainbows he is wasting his time. Everyone cops something in life by w***ers. Most choose to accept the positive praise of 98 percent of people and ignore the 2%. Goodes does the opposite then includes the 98% with the other fools

 

[ManWithNoName]

I like how you continue to talk as if you've been to every game played across the country for the last 20 years and meticulously taken notes.

Well I've been to 200+ of Lloyd's games. Probably ~50 of Judd's. Watched countless more of Judd's on TV, same with Hall and Williams. So yes, I think I'm fairly qualified to give this opinion. Notice how nobody's arguing that any of them WERE booed like Goodes is? Perhaps, just perhaps, because I'm right?

 

[Ice-Wolf]

So can people Bronx Cheer Goodes?

 

[Forward Press]

That's not what you said though is it. You just said he wasn't booed. Looking passed that though, yes, for a while there it was every game. Definitely though the booing of Goodes has reached a crescendo that it hasn't against others. Why has it built up the way it has? I don't think racism is the answer just quietly.

Like most things there are always a combination of factors. But racism is definitely a component for some of the boo-ers.

I don't think Hayden Ballantyne has ever been booed this loudly or for such an extended period before. It was like Goodes announced he was joining ISIS on the Domain Stadium big screen.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Interesting thing to say, seeming lyndsay Thomas is also aboriginal, so it makes your accusation wrong.

So unless every aboriginal is booed, it's not racist?

So by that token, if a fan only racially abuses one player, is it okay?

 

[subaru]

I suppose the question you need to ask is:

Are the supporters of every other club going to boo Sam Mitchell every time he goes near the ball for his hit on Tex Walker for the rest of the season

Yes !

 

[no orange peeler]

Well I'm not going to stop just because a bunch of PC do-gooders say it's not right. My reasons for booing Goodes and other players are perfectly valid. You can't tell people who and who not to cheer for or boo.

cool can you let me know where you work so i can come in and constantly boo you

 

[plastikman]

In which an imaginary spear causes someone to lose their mind.

I don't know why people got upset over Jetta's spear. It was as threatening as his 2014 Grand Final performance.

 

[sherb]

And we are seeing an awful lot of that on this very thread.

 

[bungwahl]

As I say can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.



When my booing is not based on racist grounds I have a right to complain. I booed Goodes before it was the "in thing" to do (7-8 years now). I have not and will not change my opinion because of the way he plays the game, unfair and unjust.

I take no issue about the cause he is trying to bring awareness of. By all means do press conference after press conference, but when you are playing a game of football on match day leave the politics out of it.

You don't have to like Goodes, and you can boo every set shot he takes just like any other player.

But the constant booing every time he touches the ball or appears on the big screen is an embarrassment to all fans.

 

[FRUMPY]

That's a really good war dance at the opposition not at the opposition crowd to provoke a response. You give the finger to the opposition supporters you provoke a response and get a fine.

Then goodes comes out and says he was doing it as a war dance to the opposition. But he wouldn't do it to chris yarran (who was playing against him). So who was he doing it to? He contradicts himself everywhere he goes

 

[Xtreme]

cool can you let me know where you work so i can come in and constantly boo you

Bring it on, have copped much worse at work a consistent boo for hours on end is nothing NOTHING

You don't have to like Goodes, and you can boo every set shot he takes just like any other player.

But the constant booing every time he touches the ball or appears on the big screen is an embarrassment to all fans.

Better tell that to the entire state of Western Australia then!

Telling people to stop is just going to fan the flames, those that have spoken out about it have already got people riled up. If Tony Abbott speaks up about the issue that is just going to pour even more petrol on the situation.

 

[Moody Blue]

How dare Adam Goodes speak out about Aboriginal issues. He called out a supporter who was abusing him for his race. Eddie McGuire then had a brain explosion a few days later and just made the situation even worst. People forget, the white man invaded their country, killed thousands of Aborigines and then rub s**t in their face by celebrating Australia Day every year. It is a bit like the Germans celebrating the Bombing of London as an annual holiday, and then showing exasperation when the Poms complain.

As a compromise, have we ever suggested a National holiday to celebrate Aboriginal culture? No we still celebrate the Birthday's of the Monarchy. And we call ourselves progressive.

We do not even recognise Aborigines in the Constitution. Not surprising since we are ruled by a Monarchy who lives in the UK. We want our Aborigines to shut up and do as they are told and play football for our entertainment.

To all these so called supporters who have talked themselves into believing that they are not racist, have a long hard look at yourself in the mirror. Adam Goodes has reached the pinnacle of his profession; A dual brownlow medallist and premiership player. He is a proud Aborigine and has done all possible to help his people, and that sometimes involves highlighting the ugly side of Australia.

All Aboriginal players in the AFL/VFL and the Interstate equivalent should simply make themselves unavailable for this week or even consider walking out for the rest of the season, if Goodes is forced out of the game.

 

[kneecapper]

Note to Aboriginal players: check people's ID in triplicate before pointing them out for comparing you to a monkey.

And people accuse Goodes of being overly sensitive. Wow.

 

[Cannon82]

how is there are better way to do things at that point? try and seek her out after the game or qtr time? yeah right? Unless you have been through what Adam and his family have been through i don't believe anyone has a right to question how he should react in such a situation.

I love that line of reasoning. We can absolutely question what he did because you can be judged on the way you act irrespective of your race - being indigenous doesn't give him a free pass to do what he likes. To be honest, it probably would sit better with me if he'd taken the Cantona route and kung fu'd his way over the fence.

People have been identified out of the crowd through camera footage. Again, not suggesting its a surefire successful method of getting your man, but I can't help but laugh at you people who think there was only one option open to Goodes, and that was to point someone out in front of thousands of people and on national telly.

 

[DrEvil_]

It's gone past booing. It is now sheer nastiness and hatred, beyond anything directed at any other player.

It is still booing. Those who went past it and yelled racial abuses were rightfully thrown out.

 

[Cannon82]

Well I've been to 200+ of Lloyd's games. Probably ~50 of Judd's. Watched countless more of Judd's on TV, same with Hall and Williams. So yes, I think I'm fairly qualified to give this opinion. Notice how nobody's arguing that any of them WERE booed like Goodes is? Perhaps, just perhaps, because I'm right?

No, because no one is going to pretend to have seen every game and taken a head count of the people booing certain players. Thinking you're right and being right are two different things - that's why self-righteous behaviour is repugnant. Would be nice if you'd consider that you're not infallible.

 

[FRUMPY]

If he did retire, imagine looking back on this incident in 20 years and trying to explain to our children/grand children how he was forced out of the game.

Absolutely disgraceful possibility. Wake up to yourself Australia.

Son, we booed at goodes because he was a flog and not because he is aboriginal, pretty simple really.

 

[kingswood71]

Players can identify them, just better to do it through channels rather than say, pointing them out on national telly. Mad idea apparently.

So why isnt everyone booing Rance for his actions against the dogs??

 

[carloss]

If it was racist, the media would be saying "West Coast fans are racist". Instead they say "The booing is racist".
If the only conclusion is that it's racist, why won't the media come out and directly call the fans racist?

 

[Cannon82]

So why isnt everyone booing Rance for his actions against the dogs??

What did he do against the Dogs? Also, Rance is a donkey and overrated.

Boo?

 

[Tyrone Time]

These boards were full of allegations yes, and the bay and all over the place it's still hinted at regularly. But what else is there to say about it?

Franklin wasn't getting booed the same amount Goodes is now.

Totally disagree, the hysteria around Franklin's apparent drug use has stopped!
And the Sydney posters in particular now love this free kick staging drug user (not my words)....why? Good old self interest!

Agreed, because Franklin just played through it and just kept kicking bags, he thrived on the haters booing and smearing him. He accepted his roll in the banter continuing and didn't sook. Dare I say it, the Australia way. As I highlighted, booing Goodes now has become a sport. Like 90k people chanting Hadlee is a w***er or the same for Wayne Carey. It's now a sport and telling people to stop and showing that it's getting to him it will only increase. Goodes was winning because his footy was A grade and he was successful. Now it appears he is on the slide (not with his knees this time), the folks Goodes has made look foolish and upset over the years are head hunting him for payback. Again, it's just the Australian way, nothing to do with racism.

Like James Hird, Goodes needs someone else advising him on public relations, because currently he's just digging the hole deeper and deeper.
And the people defending him the most in the media have view few credits in the bank when it comes to being moral compasses, especially Robbo or Bec Wilson. Either of these two calling people Rednecks or Bogans is so amusing.

 

[Monkey King]

He was booed the same way other great players are. Occasionally, by scattered groups of flogs. My point was guys like Judd, and Hall, and Lloyd, and Williams, were never booed the way Goodes is. It's completely different.

After the chicken wing incident he was booed roundly every time he went near the ball. Yes I agree it's different now with Goodes situation, but then again, it's rare that there's such media reaction to a player being booed as there has been towards Goodes as well. No doubt among other things, there has been a positive feedback system that has led to this crescendo.