Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

[hardon]

You can't begrudge the Carlton fans to boo because a player did a war dance towards them and they also didn't know what it meant. The problem is why every other team's fans are all of a sudden booing him when he hasn't done the war dance to them, not to mention the fact that he explained with proof was something completely harmless?

the question is: if there are racists everywhere (a given) then why aren't sydney swans supporters booing him?

a) there are no racists in sydney.

b) it's not a racial thing.

 

[corio bay]

You don't own me and you don't get to tell me what I should or should not do. You say far more about yourself than I ever could.

I posted it for general information for people to use it as a filter and if necessary a mirror. It is high time that people had a good hard look at what is being said and themselves and assess many of the things being posted here.

I dont think posting random but useful information is going to get through to a bunch of people who feel that booing someone is a mature thing to do.

 

[Footy Is The Win]

Oh dear god.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest you probably don't have the capacity to rile me up too much.

If only Adam Goodes was as thick skinned as you.

 

[Choomah]

the question is: if there are racists everywhere (a given) then why aren't sydney swans supporters booing him?

a) there are no racists in sydney.

b) it's not a racial thing.

Why would the Swans boo their own player? What a ****ing stupid thing to say hahahah

 

[Jade]

If only Adam Goodes was a thick skinned as you.

Have a good day.

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Yeah, it is Adam Goodes fault she called him an ape.

If you can yell out racist abuse you can cop the consequences. SIMPLE!

if it was an adult i'd agree but goodes should have taken the high ground in that case.

 

[bungwahl]

And as a society are we not obliged to correct those mistakes?

Goodes could not have handled that particular incident any better.

We've been going around in circles with these clowns for days now.

The moral to their story is that kids can do what they want, without consequence, because they're kids. We are stupid for thinking otherwise.

 

[Dacksaredown]

if it was an adult i'd agree but goodes should have taken the high ground in that case.

If he was any ****en higher he would have floated away.

 

[dispute]

Bullshit.

He heard the word, and (rightfully) pointed the person out.

Was he supposed to calmly and slowly figure out the details of this person before coming to the conclusion it was a racial slur? And if he did do that, is he then to conclude that because it was a 13yo girl, it was ok?

Look I have my problems with Goodes, but those taking the 'it's ok to boo him because of his reaction to a racial slander'.... yeah, you're racist.

Goodes to the media:

"Hello all, I would like to address a taunt that was directed at me in tonights game. This person in the crowd called me an Ape. Whether at the time of calling me an ape this person knew it had racist connotations attached to it is up for debate. That's why I would like to take this oppotunity to educate people and let them know that calling someone of my heritage and ape is hurtful"

Something like that.

 

[Number37]

He shouldnt've been so black

That is pretty much the argument isn't it.

"If Goodes wasn't aboriginal I wouldn't have to racially abuse him"

Is it sad or funny that people actually write and believe that sh!t?

 

[bungwahl]

if it was an adult i'd agree but goodes should have taken the high ground in that case.

He did take the high ground. He put himself on the line to do what was right.

 

[DERIBERATE]

Close the thread. Gillon wrote a letter to make it all go away.

 

[campbell]

If only Adam Goodes was a thick skinned as you.

gawd, ignorance at its finest.

 

[BloodRet]

ummmm

Sorry lol I'm stupid. I meant next weekend. Sorry

 

[subaru]

Yet if he doesn't point her out, she continues to think it's OK to yell those things out.

What should he have done?

I have responded to you on that 3 times now and from you ...on each occasion .......crickets
I'm wasting no more megabytes repeating myself for the fourth time!

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

He shouldnt've been so black

he should have waxed his whole body

 

[Footy Is The Win]

Have a good day.

Thankyou.

 

[penga]

Correct


Agree with some comments, don't agree with everything, there is a different perspective here

Fair enough but here is my view:

In the heat of the moment he wanted to make a stand, he had (probably) been talking a lot about racial issues at the time in and outside of football. The fact he realised it was a young girl doesn't matter he already turned around and completed the action of trying to find a point at the person that called him an ape. Why would he stop himself in the middle just because it was a youngish girl? 13 isn't that young and she might've looked a bit older but that's besides the point anyway.

The "Face of Racism" is a metaphor, I'm sure people have similarly pointed that out already 100 times...

It is not literally saying she is the face of racism and is evil or something like that, it is a technique used to highlight the sadness of the situation that a young child who probably doesn't know what she is doing is inflicting this type of pain on others without knowing the consequences.

Note: Please don't try compare how much racial abuse hurts compared to getting embarrassed on national media as a 13 y.o. girl who actually did something wrong (but was not condemned by Goodes).

 

[Number37]

the question is: if there are racists everywhere (a given) then why aren't sydney swans supporters booing him?

a) there are no racists in sydney.

b) it's not a racial thing.

Logic not your strong suit eh.

 

[bungwahl]

I have responded to you on that 3 times now and from you ...on each occasion .......crickets
I'm wasting no more megabytes repeating myself for the fourth time!

No you haven't. You've dodged out of it every time.

So Goodes is near the boundary and gets racially abused, what's next?

 

[SeaWind]

Ignoring the other anecdotal crap (I'm sure, and I bet I'm guessing correctly here, you are someone who knows next to nothing about Indigenous culture, and knows few Indigenous people. Im not surprised you have rare experiences of racism towards Indigenous people... Who would have thought it?!)...

You arent going to respond to me with an argument? Can't explain why? You are pathetic. It isn't a theory. It is a straightforward argument, and one you will need to reply to if you are to justify your position (FWIW I think that you are a racist if you boo one more time). Let me restate:

You should concern yourself with the motivations of others if you, through your own free actions, support what they are doing. You don't live in a bloody vacuum and need to take some responsibility for what you do. If what you do furthers what racists do, and you know that, you are volitionally giving your voice to theirs and are supporting what they are doing. You are responsible for that.

For starters, of course I don't plan on engaging in the argument. Unlike you, I'm not a mushroom who spends all day posting on Bigfooty.

Secondly, I don't care about aboriginal culture, and I really don't care about your knowledge of it. It's irrelevant to the problem I highlighted: people labeling others racist for booing.

Thirdly, this is about booing at football games, not racism elsewhere. If it wasn't at a football game, it wouldn't be on this board.

Fourthly, I'm not concerning myself with the actions of others just because an obnoxious w*nker like you tells me to. I'm free to boo for non-racial reasons all I want, and I'm comfortable knowing that doesn't make me a racist, contrary to what dopes like you might suggest.

Don't waste your breath with him. He is either incapable or unable to mount any counter argument, reasonable or other.

Apparently "he" will decide if he's racist or not. Laughable and a typical argument of a racist.

You don't decide what constitutes racism, bigot. If you weren't a complete moron, you'd realize a lot of it comes down to interpretation.

 

[Footy Is The Win]

gawd, ignorance at its finest.

Irony at it's finest.

 

[Jade]

I'm going to offer a thought to you all.

I am sure, like myself, that you had a near instant reaction to this issue. What I mean by that is, you probably formed an opinion very quickly on it.

The problem we have on BigFooty, and to be fair as people in general, is once we've stated a stance we blindly ignore opposing views or new information because we have this aversion to ever admitting we were wrong.

Maybe sit back, have a think about what you've heard, what others have said, take on the information. And maybe, just maybe, reconcile yourself with the idea that, you know what, it's actually ok to take on new information and change your mind.

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

If he was any ****en higher he would have floated away.

if i was any higher i'd be ben cousins

 

[Choomah]

Logic not your strong suit eh.

It's a compelling argument but, why aren't Swans fans booing their own player?