List Mgmt. 2015 Trade & Free Agency Hellscape Discussion Thread (PG546: Anderson PG732: Bastinac)

[Rooboy 96]

so how does



fit into to 200 point variance rule the league was talking about in the papers on the weekend



unless the league knows Melbourne will finish in an exact spot on the ladder next year?

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

 

[roos_fanatic08]

To be honest, they have been using the "bomb out completely" strategy for about a decade now........hasn't exactly come up trumps for them.

I think they've started to turn a corner under Roos and Goodwin, minus Toumpas they've stopped going after those flaky types. I have a soft spot for Melbourne minus their tanking.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Gee I hope that football club contnues down the road it is going, they are going to be so incredibly shit next year.

Why would u trade out one of the only guys on your list who has the potential to reach a grade status.

 

[giantroo]

Here's every club's list at the start of 2015 (ie. before this trade period) by age. I've highlighted in red the 24 to 29 age cohort.



http://public.tableau.com/views/AFL...:loadOrderID=0&:display_count=yes&:showTabs=y

 

[utility]

I think they've started to turn a corner under Roos and Goodwin, minus Toumpas they've stopped going after those flaky types. I have a soft spot for Melbourne minus their tanking.

 

[giantroo]

 

[DarkPhoenix]

so how does

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fit into to 200 point variance rule the league was talking about in the papers on the weekend

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unless the league knows Melbourne will finish in an exact spot on the ladder next year?

Its a loophole. But i think they base the calculation on where they finished this year? So add another pick 6 to GC side and it balances.

 

[Passmore]

I think they've started to turn a corner under Roos and Goodwin, minus Toumpas they've stopped going after those flaky types. I have a soft spot for Melbourne minus their tanking.

Fair enough. It seems though that every time Melbourne embark on a new round of early draft picks they "have it right this time".

I'm a sceptic.

 

[bengrina]

Why is theo doropolous covering the draft? I thought he was a cricketer

 

[blackshadow]

Gee I hope that football club contnues down the road it is going, they are going to be so incredibly shit next year.

Why would u trade out one of the only guys on your list who has the potential to reach a grade status.

kultur

 

[longyroos]

so how does

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fit into to 200 point variance rule the league was talking about in the papers on the weekend

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unless the league knows Melbourne will finish in an exact spot on the ladder next year?

The 2016 Round one pick isn't included in that projection

 

[DarkPhoenix]

So richmond will offer p12 for Lobbe but NOT the guy theyve been desperately chasing all trade period?

 

[MaddAdam]

Carlton will win one game next year.

Against us.

Sam Kerridge.

 

[Tas]

Everyone forgets the only reason Basti played 17 games this year is because Dal missed 10. Dal returns from injury and like magic, Basti is out again.

He missed 2 games when Dal came back in but then came back in and played in 7 of the next 9 games had another 2 games off then played the last 3 before the finals. Lets not fabricate an alternate reality.

Realistically, it was players like Garner and Turner pushing into the side who didn't necessarily play midfield that made it harder for us to carry the number of midfielders we typically have, there were fewer spots up forward and on the pine to carry extra mids.

I think the club is keen to move him on because we plan for Wells and Anderson now and are happy to go with Dumont and even Mullett for depth. I can understand that sometimes it is in the best interest for both parties to move on at times, but it has to be win-win. Lets just be realistic that Bewick is Gysberts or Hine type of acquisition, he isn't the win-win deal.

If we get Bewick we're trading out a fringe player with skills we don't need (Basti) for a fringe player with skills we do need (Bewick).

Fringe players don't play 42 of the last 50 games.

It is not an OR situation, it is not like it's Bastinac for Bewick is a straight swap, we could acquire him with a garbage pick.

The irrational Bewick freak out here is laughable. I'd suggest some just hear we're getting a fringe player from another side and assume that he's crap.

It has nothing to do with Bewick, other than expecting him to be a flop, it is the Aish deal is a bust and we are going to cash him in for draft pick plus blunt added steak knives. It is not good list management to sink 121 games with questionable development to just turn him over and go back into the draft. If you can't get someone with his abilities to be part of your core team, what kind of player do you need to acquire to do so? Wasting time and development is a major problem.

We've complained about and been found out for lack of leg speed and outside class for years now. If we finish this trade period with one young gun and one fringe player with speed and class, plus a first round draft pick, then we've done our best to fill the glaring gap on our list.

Consistency and effort is a bigger problem than our lack of leg speed, something which isn't a strong suit of his according to their supporters.

I don't really care which players from other clubs we give a crack, I don't expect them to all work out. It is just a concern if we are ****ing up the development of the youth we have bled a long time to acquire. If Scott and the team **** it up and we go arse over ****, they will be given the arse and will be gone, we are the ones that will be left here going another decade hoping the next lot of people don't **** it up. We will be left holding the baby if these decisions go to shit.

 

[giantroo]

BAHAHAHA

 

[roos_fanatic08]

most of my hatred is taken up by sydney, adelaide, carlton essendon and collingwood....



oh and richmond.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

BAHAHAHA

they've got the money why don't they do it!

 

[giantroo]

UPDATE: COLLINGWOOD has asked the AFL to investigate the apparent security breach that led to a video of Greater Western Sydney midfielder Adam Treloar in Magpie colours surfacing online.

The Pies are calling on the league to investigate how the video may have been accessed and leaked before it was published.

AFL clubs use a communal hub to upload content that can be stored in “quarantine” to be released when an embargo is lifted — but it can be viewed by anyone with access to the system.

The league will check all recorded logs associated with the video.

Treloar, who is still a Giant, is shown wearing Collingwood gear, signing what is purported to be a club playing contract and speaking about how excited he is to be joining the club on a deal that is yet to be agreed to between the two clubs.

The video has sparked concerns that the Magpies have engaged in extensive dealings with the midfielder before he has even been traded to the club, despite it being his destination of choice.



The club has previously denied having knowledge of Treloar’s “secret” post-season groin surgery in Tasmania, despite suggestions that it may have put him under the knife.

GWS list boss Graeme Allan is at AFL House today, and was short and sweet when asked if any deals were imminent.

“Not today,” he said.

The club is refusing to comment publicly on the matter.


The club-produced video that surfaced last night opens with Treloar – complete with Collingwood polo shirt – in front of his home, and shows him signing his Magpies contract alongside his girlfriend and dog.

“It’s a little bit weird that now I’m pulling on a Collingwood polo - I’ve been used to the Giants for five years but I’m very excited at the opportunity,” the 22-year-old says in the video.

“It’s been a tough decision, but one that I am at peace with. I think it is the best decision for myself and my family, and I can’t wait to get stuck into the pre-season and run out in round one in front of hopefully 90,000 people.”

Collingwood President Eddie McGuire said that he didn’t know how the blunder happened, but that the deal involving Treloar “will be done today”.

Collingwood admitted this morning its concern at security surrounding embargoed material and suggested the system it and other clubs use may have been “hacked”.

The AFL looks like it will investigate, with Triple M tweeting that the organisation “will check all logs to pinpoint who leaked” the deal.

Club media boss Stephen Rielly says the vision was filmed on Friday and was to be stored in “quarantine” until the deal went through.

He said he had already taken the issue up with the AFL and had serious concerns around the system used by clubs to store confidential material such as the video.

“We sat down with him (Treloar) late Friday afternoon, thinking that the deal would probably go through on the Saturday or some time over the weekend, and what’s happened is that the file with the content was loaded up and sits there in quarantine waiting for the deal to drop,” Rielly said on Triple M this morning.

“It appears the system itself – the umbrella network that all the clubs are party to – has been hacked or breached in some way, and someone has found the file and posted a link to it in the early hours of this morning.

“I’ve been in contact with Matt Pinkney, the head of the AFL media network, and also spoke to the AFL itself around our concerns around the security of the system and now our disappointment.

“They’re equally disappointed because they see it as a reflection on one of their properties. Matt is certainly looking into it and hopes to have some answers for me in the next day or so.

“This will all blow over, but we are concerned that the system was breached like this and that otherwise confidential and embargoed material was released.”

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

False outrage, l love it.

 

[numchuks]

Double facepalm, for when Collingwood pretends their systems were "breached" and make the AFL launch a league wide investigation to find the culprits.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

send treloar to the draft.

**** the pies.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Most hated list management team? Essendon vs Pies. Go!

 

[Cold Gin]

BAHAHAHA

Oh, boo f****** hoo.

I'd like to demand someone find the hacker who exposed my Ashley Madison account, too, but it seems it's actually my own stiff shit for having it there in the first place!*

Suck on it, Collingwood.




* - For the purpose of protecting any good name I may happen to have on here, I wish to make it clear that I in fact DO NOT have the said Ashley Madison account! I just rather liked the analogy!