List Mgmt. Gibbs - 2017 trade discussions! (Gibbs swapped for Wigg or 2nd)

[Mego Red]

Do they play the same position?

Mackay was a big part of winning us that match. Menzel battled and tried. That's all I care about.

 

[Elite Crow]

Mackay was a big part of winning us that match. Menzel battled and tried. That's all I care about.

That's deep

 

[GrommoT]

2018 1st could be on offer?

Been thinking this - that it would be better for us to delay missing out on a first rounder by another year. We can add another to our recent crop of first rounders, we can better cover the absence of a first rounder down the track. Question is would Carlton accept this, for similar but opposite reason.

 

[Mego Red]

All true until your last sentence which is your opinion, it's all you have. You have no idea how they rated their list internally.

The fact they sacked their coach for underperforming might give you a clue, that and the talent made the finals and won them a flag 2 years later. But hey, your opinion carries more weight than history.

Well, everything I said was fact.

Your opinion is "they just finished 14th, had their captain abandon them and sacked their coach. They must think they're primed for a flag and need someone to tip them across the line. I know, let's get a 20 year old who's barely played but was a top rated junior!"

Literally nothing you've said on this matter makes sense.

 

[Mego Red]

Been thinking this - that it would be better for us to delay missing out on a first rounder by another year. We can add another to our recent crop of first rounders, we can better cover the absence of a first rounder down the track. Question is would Carlton accept this, for similar but opposite reason.

I think we trade our first to Geelong for Carlton's and their second. I think we trade the AFC and Geelong seconds to Carlton for Gibbs. We keep the Carlton second.

Or we trade our 2017 first for the picks, and 2018 for Gibbs. Maybe move on one of the seconds and the Gov for Freo's first pick, which should be top four.

Or we trade Lever and Kelly to Collingwood for Sidebottom and Maynard.

Just a few not serious ponderings.

 

[Elite Crow]

Well, everything I said was fact.

Your opinion is "they just finished 14th, had their captain abandon them and sacked their coach. They must think they're primed for a flag and need someone to tip them across the line. I know, let's get a 20 year old who's barely played but was a top rated junior!"

Literally nothing you've said on this matter makes sense.

How can everything you've said be fact? It's impossible unless someone from the Bulldogs told you. Surely you're not that conceted?

 

[marty36]

Been thinking this - that it would be better for us to delay missing out on a first rounder by another year. We can add another to our recent crop of first rounders, we can better cover the absence of a first rounder down the track. Question is would Carlton accept this, for similar but opposite reason.

Not a bad call we will not stay up the pointy end for ever our defence is solid, forward line elite, there is not one poster that doesn't believe the only thing holding us back from a flag is improved midfield performance

The window is open taken advantage of it crows

 

[Roovolution]

Would Gibbs play for Port? What if a bidding war broke out? I'm confident we wi t overpay for him but it'd be nice to get Port to overpay.

 

[marty36]

Would Gibbs play for Port? What if a bidding war broke out? I'm confident we wi t overpay for him but it'd be nice to get Port to overpay.

Could do, but the bidding war wouldn't be cash it would be who is going to give up the most, can't see Port giving up too much they have given away a lot lately

 

[Mego Red]

How can everything you've said be fact? It's impossible unless someone from the Bulldogs told you. Surely you're not that conceted?

They finished 14th.

They had their captain, who was under contact, quit their club and demand to be traded.

They sacked their coach.

They traded for a 20 year old who had hardly played but showed lots of potential for the future.

Which of those aren't facts?

EC - you are a funny one for running with an argument WAY past where you're still making your point. Occasionally, just say "I see what you're saying, other poster, but I disagree" - and let it go. Pursuing arguments way past the point where you can be "right" must be exhausting.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Would Gibbs play for Port? What if a bidding war broke out? I'm confident we wi t overpay for him but it'd be nice to get Port to overpay.

Port have already given up their 1st rounder for next year & need to replenish their team.

I can only see them trading in Gibbs if they trade out someone like Hartlett or Lobbe.

 

[Pdub]

They finished 14th.

They had their captain, who was under contact, quit their club and demand to be traded.

They sacked their coach.

They traded for a 20 year old who had hardly played but showed lots of potential for the future.

Which of those aren't facts?

EC - you are a funny one for running with an argument WAY past where you're still making your point. Occasionally, just say "I see what you're saying, other poster, but I disagree" - and let it go. Pursuing arguments way past the point where you can be "right" must be exhausting.

Officially their coach quit, but otherwise all true. He quit after Cooney, Griffin and Higgins had jumped ship.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Port have already given up their 1st rounder for next year & need to replenish their team.

I can only see them trading in Gibbs if they trade out someone like Hartlett or Lobbe.

Gibbs for Lobbe. Done! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[MRB37]

Would Gibbs play for Port? What if a bidding war broke out? I'm confident we wi t overpay for him but it'd be nice to get Port to overpay.

Port don't have a first rounder this year, would be treading dangerous territory again by trading out of the draft for 2 years in a row.

 

[Caputo]

Carlton's best deal last year might have been trading Gibbs and making us trade for Daisy as well.

 

[Caputo]

This year we get Father/son 2 in Edwards what cost

 

[Mego Red]

Officially their coach quit, but otherwise all true. He quit after Cooney, Griffin and Higgins had jumped ship.

Huh. I forgot about Cooney and Higgins.

 

[Elite Crow]

They finished 14th.

They had their captain, who was under contact, quit their club and demand to be traded.

They sacked their coach.

They traded for a 20 year old who had hardly played but showed lots of potential for the future.

Which of those aren't facts?

EC - you are a funny one for running with an argument WAY past where you're still making your point. Occasionally, just say "I see what you're saying, other poster, but I disagree" - and let it go. Pursuing arguments way past the point where you can be "right" must be exhausting.

So is that what you do?

 

[Mego Red]

So is that what you do?

Have you already forgotten when you did fifty posts shouting me down about the number of votes Labor receives, then I spend three hours collating the results of the most recent five elections in every state (and commonwealth) that showed that the point I was making was correct? And you then made one post and never mentioned it again?

Post facts. If you're just arguing opinion and not facts, every post after the second one is pointless because it just people butting opinions and nothing else is being added.

 

[Vhaluus]

Gibbs for Mackay straight swap, final offer.

 

[Elite Crow]

Have you already forgotten when you did fifty posts shouting me down about the number of votes Labor receives, then I spend three hours collating the results of the most recent five elections in every state (and commonwealth) that showed that the point I was making was correct? And you then made one post and never mentioned it again?

Post facts. If you're just arguing opinion and not facts, every post after the second one is pointless because it just people butting opinions and nothing else is being added.

You mean the one post I made which thanked you for your work but pointed out your logic was flawed and then you agreed with me? I thought that was a good time to let it go.

As for posting facts, you posted they got Boyd as they thought they were 5 years from competing. How is that possibly a fact? It's not. You don't know how internally they rated their list. They made the finals the following year and the year after won the GF with Boyd playing a big part. Those are the facts, not your opinion.

Now will you accept that and move on?

As for my running debate with pdub, I again spoke facts, Mackay played one good qtr. I then had to argue that an imaginary cooling role didn't exist, which it didnt.

 

[Thetrader15]

I think we trade our first to Geelong for Carlton's and their second. I think we trade the AFC and Geelong seconds to Carlton for Gibbs. We keep the Carlton second.

sounds good, but dont think carlton would take 30 and 31ish for gibbs (assuming we both finish top 6)

 

[Vhaluus]

sounds good, but dont think carlton would take 30 and 31ish for gibbs (assuming we both finish top 6)

Then they can pay his contract for another year and further ruin their teams culture then.

 

[Mego Red]

You mean the one post I made which thanked you for your work but pointed out your logic was flawed and then you agreed with me? I thought that was a good time to let it go.

As for posting facts, you posted they got Boyd as they thought they were 5 years from competing. How is that possibly a fact? It's not. You don't know how internally they rated their list. They made the finals the following year and the year after won the GF with Boyd playing a big part. Those are the facts, not your opinion.

Now will you accept that and move on?

As for my running debate with pdub, I again spoke facts, Mackay played one good qtr. I then had to argue that an imaginary cooling role didn't exist, which it didnt.

The one where you didn't win the argument and tried to move the goalposts and I said you could run the data yourself?

I gave up then, because even when presented with empirical data you don't concede that you were wrong. It's foolish debating anything with you because you're stubborn beyond any belief.

Even now - you change things again. I've posted three times the facts - captain quits, previous captain quits, one of their best players quits, their coach gets sacked, and they choose to trade for a 20 year old.

I can't be bothered arguing with someone so blind. You refuse to listen or consider anything suggested by others.

If you think the facts I've listed are evidence of a team that believes they're about to compete for a flag, then nothing I can say will every change that.

 

[Mego Red]

sounds good, but dont think carlton would take 30 and 31ish for gibbs (assuming we both finish top 6)

Possibly. They may spin it that they're getting multiple picks for their rebuild, though.