2017 Non Crows AFL Discussion Thread - Part IV A New Hope

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

If the AFL wants to keep things unfair, then yes, it makes sense that Geelong wouldn't have a choice where their home final is played

If the AFL wants to be a professionally run sport and act in the best interest of supporters then there will never be a high-drawing final at a dinky suburban ground

 

[Roovolution]

Rohan Connolly talking up Port. FFS who are these morons? "If they get a Showdown Final the equation changes. Don't write off the Pear"........is their an outbreak of dementia among commentators? Those clowns haven't beaten us for two years and we just belted them by 84 points.....

 

[Drummond]

Rohan Connolly talking up Port. FFS who are these morons? "If they get a Showdown Final the equation changes. Don't write off the Pear"........is their an outbreak of dementia among commentators? Those clowns haven't beaten us for two years and we just belted them by 84 points.....

But they held a NEAFL team to 20 points. What heroes.

Honestly, you'd think the media would've learned by now that Port are a joke, come against a quality side and they're toast. But no.

 

[Scorpus]

If the AFL wants to be a professionally run sport and act in the best interest of supporters then there will never be a high-drawing final at a dinky suburban ground

Would you be happy if our home final against a Victorian team was moved to the MCG because it can fit in twice the amount of supporters, and therefore is in the best interest of supporters?

 

[Alwaysacrow]

We wouldn't want to meet them, us being a nice club wouldn't want to humiliate them anymore.

Did someone with reply with the r20 line ??

No one responded to it that I noticed but gee I wish he would go back to fire department he is such a flog on the media.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Would you be happy if our home final against a Victorian team was moved to the MCG because it can fit in twice the amount of supporters, and therefore is in the best interest of supporters?

That will happen with the grand and yes I'm happy with that

 

[subaru]

I'm not usually an aggressive agitator around here, but here goes.

Many of you need to harden the f*ck up. You sit here and whinge about how depressing our history is, and how poor our finals record is. And you'd be right.

But then when we secure Top 2 three weeks out from finals, all you do is worry about how good Sydney are. Then when we secure 1st before the last game is even played, you whinge about having to play GWS or Port. Or oh gee, Geelong are pretty good.

I reckon a lot of people here prefer it when we don't finish high, so then they don't have to put up with the pressure. Well, f*ck that. Premierships aren't handed to you on a platter.

After the bye we had statistically the toughest draw home. If we made Top 2 from there, we would have earned it, and be a flag favourite. Well guess what. We're top. Does it mean we've done enough? No. Does it mean we're monties? No. But it means we're in the box seat. If you sit around worrying about having to play this team or that then you're f*cked before you've even started.

Since we secured Top 2 the club has looked at the bigger picture and is doing what's necessary to be as well prepared for the Qualifying Final as possible. How about we fire the hell up instead of worrying about other teams? It's a losers mentality.

You play who you play .....
We've beaten all of them except Sydney and we should have won that by 6 goals.

I think this teams THRIVES on pressure. And don't underestimate the Walsh tragedy and how it affected this group last year.

 

[Scorpus]

That will happen with the grand and yes I'm happy with that

So let's say we make a home Preliminary final against Richmond, the AFL deems that they would get 90,000 fans to a final at the MCG but only 52,000 at Adelaide Oval, would you be happy if they decided to move that final to the MCG because it's in the best interest of fans?

 

[GROTTO]

Rohan Connolly talking up Port. FFS who are these morons? "If they get a Showdown Final the equation changes. Don't write off the Pear"........is their an outbreak of dementia among commentators? Those clowns haven't beaten us for two years and we just belted them by 84 points.....

Champ, I would love to play Port. Then sit back and wait for the Crows odds to move out when the Port supporters place all their dole payments on the Power to win.

 

[Ratkins]

Couldn't their fans just sing the song themselves? Don't need anyone's permission. Given that they all know the words and it's in their DNA I'm sure they'll be able to belt it out

I'm sure they could. If they didn't have it blasting out of the speakers, I'm sure it would become far more authentic.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

So let's say we make a home Preliminary final against Richmond, the AFL deems that they would get 90,000 fans to a final at the MCG but only 52,000 at Adelaide Oval, would you be happy if they decided to move that final to the MCG because it's in the best interest of fans?

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They don't shift states.

They just make sure the games are played at the best grounds

 

[Ratkins]

3rd 100 point loss in a row coming up for Fremantle.

Essendon could kick 200 points today.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Well, if it wasn't already it's game over. Will Fremantle lose by 104 points again or is that optimistic?

 

[dogs105]

Will Port need to play a top 8 team in the finals?

 

[PrideOf]

But they held a NEAFL team to 20 points. What heroes.

Honestly, you'd think the media would've learned by now that Port are a joke, come against a quality side and they're toast. But no.

Just caught 5 minutes of FootySA while waiting for our fish and chips. Loving the fact that Kornes is up and about.

"Great win by Port!" Um, our BigFooty Board could have lined up against Gold Coast last night and won by 100+. I would have kicked six.

"Great tuneup for the finals!" Yep. The best way to tuneup for hard, finals footy is to have a training run, then have a week off.

"The biggest Dream Final our state has ever seen." What, since the last one where we won by 13 goals? For a club that claims to be bigger than its rival, Port spends a shitload of time using us to make themselves relevant.

"The whole State is praying for St Kilda to win." To set up another 84-point drubbing. Gotcha.

"Port are back!" Seriously Kane, do you even football?

 

[Scorpus]

?

They don't shift states.

They just make sure the games are played at the best grounds

But they do state-shift the Grand Final.

My point is the AFL arbitrarily decides where finals are played. Geelong played Fremantle at Simonds; GWS played the Bulldogs at Spotless. There have also been finals at Etihad in the past. Why weren't those games at the 'better' grounds of the MCG and SCG respectively?

The rule should either be actual home ground advantage (aka. the fair option) for all finals, or the 'better ground rule' (aka. better for fans option). The first option means the Grand Final is played at the home ground of the team that finishes higher, unless that team decides to move it to another one of their home grounds. The second option means any final can be moved to the 'best' stadium, even interstate finals if that is the best option for fans.

The only reason that Richmond aren't going to play at Simonds is because the AFL doesn't want to "lock out" opposition fans. So by that reasoning, a final at Adelaide Oval or Domain or Spotless or wherever might lock out opposition fans, so there is a chance it would be moved to a larger, better ground of the MCG.

As it stands, the rules are inconsistent and arbitrarily applied

 

[Jars458]

Tigers win easily today.

 

[Drummond]

Can we talk about the Bulldogs for a sec? I hate them. Let me say that first.

But where does their flag rank among the flukiest? They were good last year, not great, then somehow got so hot and were ridiculously full of spirit during the finals that they pipped everyone. Credit to them, they took their chances and had the umpires in their pocket, but to me, when you fail to even reach the finals the following year it kind of lessons it's value. Of course all that ultimately matters is the fact that the records will show they won the 2016 AFL premiership, but to me it's just out of the box, and we won't see them in true contention for a while now.

Really wish they didn't win last year.

 

[pjcrows]

But they do state-shift the Grand Final.

My point is the AFL arbitrarily decides where finals are played. Geelong played Fremantle at Simonds; GWS played the Bulldogs at Spotless. There have also been finals at Etihad in the past. Why weren't those games at the 'better' grounds of the MCG and SCG respectively?

The rule should either be actual home ground advantage (aka. the fair option) for all finals, or the 'better ground rule' (aka. better for fans option). The first option means the Grand Final is played at the home ground of the team that finishes higher, unless that team decides to move it to another one of their home grounds. The second option means any final can be moved to the 'best' stadium, even interstate finals if that is the best option for fans.

The only reason that Richmond aren't going to play at Simonds is because the AFL doesn't want to "lock out" opposition fans. So by that reasoning, a final at Adelaide Oval or Domain or Spotless or wherever might lock out opposition fans, so there is a chance it would be moved to a larger, better ground of the MCG.

As it stands, the rules are inconsistent and arbitrarily applied

Absolutely spot on.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Just caught 5 minutes of FootySA while waiting for our fish and chips. Loving the fact that Kornes is up and about.

"Great win by Port!" Um, our BigFooty Board could have lined up against Gold Coast last night and won by 100+. I would have kicked six.

"Great tuneup for the finals!" Yep. The best way to tuneup for hard, finals footy is to have a training run, then have a week off.

"The biggest Dream Final our state has ever seen." What, since the last one where we won by 13 goals? For a club that claims to be bigger than its rival, Port spends a shitload of time using us to make themselves relevant.

"The whole State is praying for St Kilda to win." To set up another 84-point drubbing. Gotcha.

"Port are back!" Seriously Kane, do you even football?

I think he is just trying to pump up Ports tires. I don't think he believes that. The only reason it's a dream final is because they get a free shot at a preliminary final and a home final will be certain the next time they play. I personally don't think they will enjoy playing Adelaide. Adelaide will smash them all over the ground. Port at times were just too slow last night. I am not certain the best preparation for finals is to have a training run then play a top 4 team that will smash you sideways all over the park, then you potentially play more Top 4 sides. They have failed to win against the best all year. This could be mentally damaging for them.......go st kilda.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Anyone else see that Shane Warne should no longer be asked about his football opinion other than some light comic relief? Tipped a Port v Richmond Grand Final.

 

[ozaddy]

Rohan Connolly talking up Port. FFS who are these morons? "If they get a Showdown Final the equation changes. Don't write off the Pear"........is their an outbreak of dementia among commentators? Those clowns haven't beaten us for two years and we just belted them by 84 points.....

Yes thanks for that as the coaches until then wasn't listening to it's supporter base and giving our youngsters a go, while leaving under-performing experienced players in the side. So thanks for the belting. You can rightly feel confident if it eventuates that way, and I hope you're team go into the game over confident too. You only have to ask Port what top of the ladder means after the minor round, as we've done it 3 times, it means squat.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Yes thanks for that as the coaches until then wasn't listening to it's supporter base and giving our youngsters a go, while leaving under-performing experienced players in the side. So thanks for the belting. You can rightly feel confident if it eventuates that way, and I hope you're team go into the game over confident too. You only have to ask Port what top of the ladder means after the minor round, as we've done it 3 times, it means squat.

You played too slow last night and didn't take the game on, Should have won by 150-160 maybe more. Your younger players wouldn't stand up against the Crows bigger bodies. You would get smashed.

 

[ozaddy]

You played too slow last night and didn't take the game on, Should have won by 150-160 maybe more. Your younger players wouldn't stand up against the Crows bigger bodies. You would get smashed.

Who knows what will happen, plenty of teams that expected to win by just turning up in the finals haven't won. It's starting the feel like there is no point in playing the finals as the results are already in.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Who knows what will happen, plenty of teams that expected to win by just turning up in the finals haven't won. It's starting the feel like there is no point in playing the finals as the results are already in.

Whats the assumption we will just turn up? Where has this come from? Its a stupid analysis! Anyways the AFC players have declared anyone, anytime and anywhere attitude. Port have failed to outplay a single top 8 team this year. Worry about yourselves.