Society/Culture Shooting attack in Vegas

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If I was to hazard on guess on why the story & timeline keeps changing, it would be that the hotel wasn't completely forthcoming in an attempt to limit their liability.
 

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Paddock's valet saying Paddock didn't have any bags?

And now he's missing?
Stop lying.

He's not missing, he's deleted his Social Media accounts.

Probably because nutcase CT's are harassing him.

As for that stupid rant you posted on the Conspiracies board from 4chan- seriously, ******* 4chan, the internet's biggest troll hole- how stupid does one have to be to actually believe any of that?

"WHY DID ISIS ONLY CLAIM RESPONSIBILITY ONCE THE FBI RELEASED THE NAME OF THE SUSPECT?!?!??! SHEEPY SHEEPY BAH BAH CONSPIRACY CONFIRMED ILLUMINATI!"

Seriously, have a think about it before jumping to conclusions.
 
What's happened here? I've only heard about a lone shooter?

It was explained at the time that there was confusion over where possible shooters were and where the reports of a shooter were taken from witnesses.
( if that makes sense )
 
Stop lying.

He's not missing, he's deleted his Social Media accounts.

Probably because nutcase CT's are harassing him.

As for that stupid rant you posted on the Conspiracies board from 4chan- seriously, ******* 4chan, the internet's biggest troll hole- how stupid does one have to be to actually believe any of that?

"WHY DID ISIS ONLY CLAIM RESPONSIBILITY ONCE THE FBI RELEASED THE NAME OF THE SUSPECT?!?!??! SHEEPY SHEEPY BAH BAH CONSPIRACY CONFIRMED ILLUMINATI!"

Seriously, have a think about it before jumping to conclusions.
If you actually read my post you would see that I didn't believe it.

You're pathetic

Also how can I be lying if I'm asking questions?
 
If you actually read my post you would see that I didn't believe it.
You're right, I didn't bother reading your entire post- I usually don't :$

Also how can I be lying if I'm asking questions?
Question? Looks to me like you're re-posting CT bullshit.
 
Perhaps because he was using the service elevator which happens with VIP's and high profile guests. (maybe they're not covered by CCTV) The CEO of the casino resort in an interview, without prompting, offered a denial that Paddock would not have used the service elevator without a security officer accompanying him. Nobody had even mentioned a service elevator.

Nobody? At all? Police hadn't asked him previously? He had never heard anyone in his staff ask about it? Was never told that there was speculation about the service elevator?
 
Nobody? At all? Police hadn't asked him previously? He had never heard anyone in his staff ask about it? Was never told that there was speculation about the service elevator?

I meant nobody mentioned service elevators to him in the interview, he just suddenly made comment on them. Must have been on his mind though so maybe the cops had been asking.

Paddock had Marilou's id's as well (no idea what that was but couldn't have been her passport) so if she was still working there, he may have had a pass of hers that he used to access the service elevators and drag all his gear up unnoticed.
 
They're going to have to orchestrate something much, much worse than this for it to even be considered. 9/11 level

I remember being on a bodybuilding forum back when the Sandy Hook shooting happened , most of the people on the forum where Americans many of whom had jobs that would suggest they are reasonably intelligent . I would say 90% of them did not want any changes to gun laws , the main argument was that bad guys would still keep their guns and get their hands on more .

What exactly is it that has caused America to have such a different cultural attitude towards guns than we do , does it go back to the war of independence ?
 
I remember being on a bodybuilding forum back when the Sandy Hook shooting happened , most of the people on the forum where Americans many of whom had jobs that would suggest they are reasonably intelligent . I would say 90% of them did not want any changes to gun laws , the main argument was that bad guys would still keep their guns and get their hands on more .

What exactly is it that has caused America to have such a different cultural attitude towards guns than we do , does it go back to the war of independence ?
I can only assume they want protection from their corrupt government

Not that a few guns is going to be the savior in the end
 

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Questions is it fair to say that for Gun Laws to change it will have to come from a push within the republican party ?

Pretty much, since they are the ones who have taken the policy stance to oppose gun control and to extend even more lax gun laws. Like any major reform it will require some bi-partisan consensus. But I see it as unlikely, it has become deeply ingrained political mantra from the textbook for Republicans, not sure if they can reform the true believers or just wait for them to slowly die off.
 
When a good part of the Republican party, including the President are owned by the NRA I would put any chance of them trying to anything about gun control at zero.

Pretty much the state of play.

Also, I see that the NRA have gone back on their earlier soft line about banning bump-fire stocks. Now they don't want them banned.
 
They're going to have to orchestrate something much, much worse than this for it to even be considered. 9/11 level

Instead of spending the billions required to orchestrate more false flags, wouldn't the cheaper option be to fund senators campaigns so they don't need the NRA?

Would make a lot more finacial sense and save a lot in the long run.
 
lol. Money isn't an issue

But if the end game is gun control, they could spend the money now, break the ties to the NRA and have gun control.

Spending more and more on "false flags" in the hopes one day gun control might happen just doesn't make sense while the NRA are there to block them.
 
When a good part of the Republican party, including the President are owned by the NRA I would put any chance of them trying to anything about gun control at zero.

When you say owned do you mean that most of the people who voted for him are pro guns?

Remember trump is not part of the Republican establishment. Trump is also seen as a god like figure to most of his supporters so he can get away with alot .

I am somewhat optimistic.
 
I love how there’s an all powerful conspiracy that can organise all these false flags but doesn’t have enough power to, you know, just take the guns right off the people.
 
I remember being on a bodybuilding forum back when the Sandy Hook shooting happened , most of the people on the forum where Americans many of whom had jobs that would suggest they are reasonably intelligent . I would say 90% of them did not want any changes to gun laws , the main argument was that bad guys would still keep their guns and get their hands on more .

What exactly is it that has caused America to have such a different cultural attitude towards guns than we do , does it go back to the war of independence ?
You're presumably talking about the misc. It's always seemed heavily conservative which explains that. Although, Reddit is more liberal yet still favours gun rights.
 
You're presumably talking about the misc. It's always seemed heavily conservative which explains that. Although, Reddit is more liberal yet still favours gun rights.

But why is it that the conservatives in Australia have a totally different attitude to gun control laws than the conservatives do in the USA ?
 

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