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Such a hard campaigner in the chamber spouting the 3 words he knows , can't make a 50cent phone call to a widow though
#Sobrave
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Such a hard campaigner in the chamber spouting the 3 words he knows , can't make a 50cent phone call to a widow though
#Sobrave
Or, to put it another way;
Australia children in an Australian institution vs non citizens in Australian custody in an Australian-controlled institution in a foreign country. Much the same really.
Yes.Isnt the whole point of the pacific solution to remove certain rights that would be obtained if the illegal immigrants were held in Australia?
Yes.
Well maybe.
But it doesn't absolve their custodians of any or all responsibility for their well-being.
We took them prisoner and transported them to the concentration camps, which makes us their custodians in exactly the same way as we are the custodians of prisoners in mainland gaols; we can't abnegate our responsibility to look after them simply by paying somebody else to do it on our behalf and ignoring all evidence of our stooges' incompetence or worse.Bit of a stretch to say Australia has a duty of care to illegal immigrants in a foreign country.
Not only that but how is Australia possibly a custodian?
We took them prisoner and transported them to the concentration camps, which makes us their custodians in exactly the same way as we are the custodians of prisoners in mainland gaols; we can't abnegate our responsibility to look after them simply by paying somebody else to do it on our behalf and ignoring all evidence of our stooges' incompetence or worse.
Bit of a stretch to say Australia has a duty of care to illegal immigrants in a foreign country.
Not only that but how is Australia possibly a custodian?
We took them prisoner and transported them to the concentration camps, which makes us their custodians in exactly the same way as we are the custodians of prisoners in mainland gaols; we can't abnegate our responsibility to look after them simply by paying somebody else to do it on our behalf and ignoring all evidence of our stooges' incompetence or worse.
Well thats right.
Other than the fact its completely wrong. Not only are those people free to leave but the govt offered them large amounts of cash to do so
Utterly absurd to compare them to prisoners in a concentration camp.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2...us-after-20-000-paym_a_21864297/?guccounter=1
CANBERRA -- Around 30 asylum seekers on Manus Island have voluntarily returned to their home countries, or are in the process of doing so, after being offered payments of up to $US20,000 from the Australian Federal Government in recent weeks.
Australia has offered large payments to asylum seekers in immigration detention facilities on Manus Island and Nauru since 2014, as incentives to return home and thus reduce numbers in those facilities. In 2016, it was reported this payment had been doubled to $20,000 as pressures increased on Manus, including the decision of the Papua New Guinea supreme court that detention on Manus was unconstitutional and that the centre must clos
It's almost like they have very good reasons not to want to return home.Other than the fact its completely wrong. Not only are those people free to leave but the govt offered them large amounts of cash to do so
Utterly absurd to compare them to prisoners in a concentration camp.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2...us-after-20-000-paym_a_21864297/?guccounter=1
CANBERRA -- Around 30 asylum seekers on Manus Island have voluntarily returned to their home countries, or are in the process of doing so, after being offered payments of up to $US20,000 from the Australian Federal Government in recent weeks.
Australia has offered large payments to asylum seekers in immigration detention facilities on Manus Island and Nauru since 2014, as incentives to return home and thus reduce numbers in those facilities. In 2016, it was reported this payment had been doubled to $20,000 as pressures increased on Manus, including the decision of the Papua New Guinea supreme court that detention on Manus was unconstitutional and that the centre must clos
Must be for lifestyle reasons!It's almost like they have very good reasons not to want to return home.
It's almost like they have very good reasons not to want to return home.
So the fact we sent them their has nothing to do with it then? Just because we give them a choice, stay & get brutalised or leave & take your chances elsewhere doesn't absolve our responsibility whilst in the hell holes we paid for & sent them to.
yep. lots of promises from welfare seeker advocates and the alp that if they hang in, they will get to enjoy a life of tax payer funded bludging in Australia after the ALP/Greens alliance wins the election.It's almost like they have very good reasons not to want to return home.
Is this what you are waiting for?enjoy a life of tax payer funded bludging in Australia after the ALP/Greens alliance wins the election.
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I've heard it.Its almost like you have never heard of the term economic migrant.
Exactly; consider the refugee who died this week. A Rohingya, who the world acknowledges is suffering under a genocide. We lock him up, tell him he can stay on a remote island if he wants, then withdraw any medical care that might treat his epilepsy or developing depression (that Australia was in part responsible for). But sure, he was just looking for some of that sweet Centrelink cash.I've heard it.
It's principally used by people to justify the appalling treatment of human beings by the Australian government.
People like you.
Who acknowledges it as genocide?Exactly; consider the refugee who died this week. A Rohingya, who the world acknowledges is suffering under a genocide. We lock him up, tell him he can stay on a remote island if he wants, then withdraw any medical care that might treat his epilepsy or developing depression (that Australia was in part responsible for). But sure, he was just looking for some of that sweet Centrelink cash.
Who acknowledges it? The UN, independent observers like Amnesty and Save the Children. But hey, they deserve it, right? Genocide is an appropriate response to the situation?Who acknowledges it as genocide?
You can't just invade a country and expect to keep expanding without any consequence in the future. The Rohingya claiming victim hood is a result of their own actions.
Any serious and neutral organisations?Who acknowledges it? The UN, independent observers like Amnesty and Save the Children. But hey, they deserve it, right? Genocide is an appropriate response to the situation?
Convenient deflection from the refugee's appalling treatment, resulting in his suicide.Who acknowledges it as genocide?
You can't just invade a country and expect to keep expanding without any consequence in the future. The Rohingya claiming victim hood is a result of their own actions.
How is this Australia's fault? He was given safety in a country then selfishly chose to end his life. He was safe. A true refugee would acknowledge this.Convenient deflection from the refugee's appalling treatment, resulting in his suicide.
Yes, the UN and Amnesty and Save the Children. All have more credibility than someone basically saying women and children dying brought it on themselves with a shrug of the shoulders.Any serious and neutral organisations?
Try not raping, killing and expanding your way through a country to begin with. It might not piss off your hosts.