Prediction How Long Will JENKINS Remain Dropped?

[Elite Crow]

Yes, because if Pyke and Co hadn't done what they have and did what the board was whinging about we wouldn't be in the position we are

That answer makes no sense

 

[relapse]

correct. 2002 was the last time we won in geelong

Actually we won there in 03 as well.

An interesting statistic is that the only AFC coaches to ever coach the Crows to a victory at Kardinia Park have been ex-Geelong coaches.

 

[Bernie L]

Would really like to see Fog have a good game this week. This is his chance to get in the team.

 

[Mike Smyth]

correct. 2002 was the last time we won in geelong

Port last beat them there in 2007 in the 2nd to last game before finals in what was a massive confidence boost heading into September.

 

[marty36]

That answer makes no sense

Pyke and co gave JJ the opportunity to find form the board didn't want to they wanted JJ out forever

 

[conVINCEd]

Hopefully Jones plays a ripper tomorrow and can replace Dougie v the Cats (or likely the Showdown).

 

[conVINCEd]

Would really like to see Fog have a good game this week. This is his chance to get in the team.

Who takes second ruck spot if Fogarty replaces Jenkins though?

Have we ever deviated from that structure since Pyke took over? I have a feeling we did it once and Greenwood rucked a bit but can’t recall when.

 

[marty36]

Hopefully Jones plays a ripper tomorrow and can replace Dougie v the Cats (or likely the Showdown).

More chance Gibbs will get in, far better ability at this moment really cant be debated

 

[marty36]

Who takes second ruck spot if Fogarty replaces Jenkins though?

Have we ever deviated from that structure since Pyke took over? I have a feeling we did it once and Greenwood rucked a bit but can’t recall when.

Keath

 

[marty36]

Would really like to see Fog have a good game this week. This is his chance to get in the team.

Lynch will come in for him

 

[relapse]

Port last beat them there in 2007 in the 2nd to last game before finals in what was a massive confidence boost heading into September.

We should have beaten them there during the Neil Craig era (I think 2009?), but from memory James Sellar cost us the game by turning the ball over on what was going to be a goal for us and it ended up with Paul Chapman kicking the goal to put Geelong in front.

 

[skam85]

JJ why didn't you just pick up the ball at the end!

He's played really well since he came back. I didn't think he would, but I'm glad he has. It's made a big difference.

 

[Bernie L]

Lynch will come in for him

Lynch doesnt know how to play "Joe the goose"!!!

 

[marty36]

"why JJ was Dropped Not enough goals"

Walker goals Round 1-4: 0,1,1,1
Jenkins goals Round 1-4: 0,2,1,1
Lynch goals Round 1-4: 0,1,2,0

So if Jenkins was dropped for not kicking enough goals, why was he dropped before Walker and Lynch? He outscored both of them.
"goals matter"

Walker goals Round 5-9: 3,4,1,2,3
Lynch goals Round 5-9: 1,1,0,3,1
Himmelberg goals Round 5-9: 1,1,1,1,1

Since JJ has left the team, we have seen a spike in performance from Walker and Lynch (see below with almost identical F50 entries), with Himmelberg achieving the same average as Jenkins of 1 goal per game.


I'll give you a hint: It's not all about goals.

"we were not getting the ball into the forward 50"

Inside 50s with Jenkins
Round 1 - 58
Round 2 - 52
Round 3 - 53
Round 4 - 36

Inside 50s without Jenkins
Round 5 - 59
Round 6 - 52
Round 7 - 50
Round 8 - 62
Round 9 - 56

Yes, we were.

No matter how you spin or look at it, we are a better team without Jenkins.
Himmelberg is offering as much on the scoreboard as Jenkins was in the first four rounds.
Himmelberg is younger, hungrier, has a bigger upside and has a longer future at the club.

Forget 2017 where we were a free scoring team with Jenkins a beneficiary.
Forget 2018 where Jenkins had a decent year and did well in the B&F thanks to consistency and not being injured.

This is 2019, and 2017/18 counts for a grand total of zero.

2019-22 however, they count for quite a lot.

Really

No matter how you spin or look at it, we are a better team without Jenkins.
Himmelberg is offering as much on the scoreboard as Jenkins was in the first four rounds.
Himmelberg is younger, hungrier, has a bigger upside and has a longer future at the club.

 

[marty36]

Lynch doesnt know how to play "Joe the goose"!!!

Tex will play deeper with Greenwood or even CEY will have a stint down there

 

[Elite Crow]

Pyke and co gave JJ the opportunity to find form the board didn't want to they wanted JJ out forever

And I gave you the reasons why.

But you are hardly one to claim innocence on player judgement.

You called Keath “Clanger King” after one game.
You called Doedee a hack who can’t kick after watching one sanfl game.

 

[marty36]

The fuq John?

Jenkins even at his best is a bruise free Betsy, this post makes it look like you’ve never seen a game he’s ever played

You might be the one not watching JJ

 

[skam85]

Really

No matter how you spin or look at it, we are a better team without Jenkins.
Himmelberg is offering as much on the scoreboard as Jenkins was in the first four rounds.
Himmelberg is younger, hungrier, has a bigger upside and has a longer future at the club.

Nice find bud.

so tell me what part of that statement was incorrect?

PS - that's probably the finest grammar in any of your posts

 

[Stiffy_18]

Would really like to see Fog have a good game this week. This is his chance to get in the team.

If you are suggesting Fog for JJ, I highly doubt that happens. Himmelberg is the most obvious in. If you bring Fogarty in for Jenkins, who plays the back up ruckman role?

 

[jackster83]

We should have beaten them there during the Neil Craig era (I think 2009?), but from memory James Sellar cost us the game by turning the ball over and Paul Chapman kicked the winning goal.

Was that the game where we won a free kick and Porplyzia was running into an open goal but they refused to pay the advantage? The same thing happened but they allowed it at the other end IIRC. Was one of those balding muppets McLaren or McBurney in fine form that day.

 

[skam85]

You might be the one not watching JJ

I think we'd break Bigfooty if we dug up all your past posts on Doedee, Burton and J.Scharenberg.

 

[marty36]

Jenkins isn’t even fit to shine Dixon’s boots. Galaxies apart

How wrong you can be

 

[marty36]

I think we'd break Bigfooty if we dug up all your past posts on Doedee, Burton and J.Scharenberg.

I said I Id have burton still not backing down from that has been playing well for Port this year would easily be in their top 10 and at KPF height not bad option and home grown talent

Sharenberg would have been better than Jars but he wasn't picked mind you plenty of youngsters aren't, playing well for the bays which is good for my team

 

[Elite Crow]

I said I Id have burton still not backing down from that has been playing well for Port this year would easily be in their top 10 and at KPF height not bad option and home grown talent

Sharenberg would have been better than Jars but he wasn't picked mind you plenty of youngsters aren't, playing well for the bays which is good for my team

What did you say about Doedee?

Didn’t you say Scharenberg would be a first rounder? Whether he’s playing for Glenelg is irrelevant, you were wrong

 

[Bernie L]

If you are suggesting Fog for JJ, I highly doubt that happens. Himmelberg is the most obvious in. If you bring Fogarty in for Jenkins, who plays the back up ruckman role?

EH hasnt really been on fire lately. Neither has Fog. Just reckon Fog plays with a bit more grunt. Could be very handy up forward.