List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

Delisted;
-

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
3. Zak Jones

3

Zak Jones

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.1

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

4.9

5star

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

CL

1.0

3star

- Link
6. Sebastian Ross

6

Sebastian Ross

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.3

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

2.1

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

(RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
15. Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder

18

Patrick Ryder

Age

37

Ht

197cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

19.3

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

21.8

5star

D

4.4

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

1.2

2star

HO

3.0

5star

- Link
24. James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
38. Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link
42. Max Heath

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

- Link
45. Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


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[stavro#4]

I thought Seb was still unsigned? Or is he unrestricted?

Unrestricted.

 

[George]

Ross is restricted. Geary is the one that is unrestricted.

Having a look through the players left to sign, you can pretty much get rid of all of them for reasons such as age or form. Jones & Sinclair the only real ones left (Think Jones is contracted beyond this year anyway but can't find information on it). Some would be hard calls but wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

*Not sure about the contract terms of the two boys from last night.

2. Jake Carlisle - Link
3. Zak Jones - Link
6. Sebastian Ross (RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan (RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
14. Jarryn Geary (UFA) - Link
15. Jack Billings (RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder - Link
24. James Frawley - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
27. Shaun McKernan - Link
32. Mason Wood - Link
35. Jack Sinclair - Link
37. Leo Connolly - Link
38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
41. Paul Hunter - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link
-. Max Heath - Link
-. Cooper Sharman - Link

 

[Saint_Dos]

Ross is restricted. Geary is the one that is unrestricted.

Having a look through the players left to sign, you can pretty much get rid of all of them for reasons such as age or form. Jones & Sinclair the only real ones left (Think Jones is contracted beyond this year anyway but can't find information on it). Some would be hard calls but wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

*Not sure about the contract terms of the two boys from last night.

2. Jake Carlisle - Link
3. Zak Jones - Link
6. Sebastian Ross (RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan (RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
14. Jarryn Geary (UFA) - Link
15. Jack Billings (RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder - Link
24. James Frawley - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
27. Shaun McKernan - Link
32. Mason Wood - Link
35. Jack Sinclair - Link
37. Leo Connolly - Link
38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
41. Paul Hunter - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link
-. Max Heath - Link
-. Cooper Sharman - Link

Surely as a player likely to get picked for the end of year AFL draft, Heath would have selected an 18month contract. Would guarantee himself a 2yr at the end of the year anyway and is at school.
Sharman been around a bit so may have gone the shorter option.

 

[THE_GUN]

Ross is restricted. Geary is the one that is unrestricted.

Having a look through the players left to sign, you can pretty much get rid of all of them for reasons such as age or form. Jones & Sinclair the only real ones left (Think Jones is contracted beyond this year anyway but can't find information on it). Some would be hard calls but wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

*Not sure about the contract terms of the two boys from last night.

2. Jake Carlisle - Link
3. Zak Jones - Link
6. Sebastian Ross (RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan (RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
14. Jarryn Geary (UFA) - Link
15. Jack Billings (RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder - Link
24. James Frawley - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
27. Shaun McKernan - Link
32. Mason Wood - Link
35. Jack Sinclair - Link
37. Leo Connolly - Link
38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
41. Paul Hunter - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link
-. Max Heath - Link
-. Cooper Sharman - Link

Please guy this is not a troll post but looking at that list how did parker get delisted considering the amount of good wishes for the guy coming from St Kilda supporters on our board. Was there issue's with him and coaching staff or leadership group ?

 

[ronnysnodgrass]

Please guy this is not a troll post but looking at that list how did parker get delisted considering the amount of good wishes for the guy coming from St Kilda supporters on our board. Was there issue's with him and coaching staff or leadership group ?

A lot of us don't get it either.

Reckon he'll fly at the tigers.

 

[George]

Please guy this is not a troll post but looking at that list how did parker get delisted considering the amount of good wishes for the guy coming from St Kilda supporters on our board. Was there issue's with him and coaching staff or leadership group ?

Fan favourite but was inconsistent. Would bob up and do something nice once in a while. Generally not in the play enough to warrant a spot in the 22 every week.

 

[Remboy]

Please guy this is not a troll post but looking at that list how did parker get delisted considering the amount of good wishes for the guy coming from St Kilda supporters on our board. Was there issue's with him and coaching staff or leadership group ?

Reduced list sizes and he was out of contract. Not having VFL games to play in probably didn't help either.

 

[THE_GUN]

Reduced list sizes and he was out of contract. Not having VFL games to play in probably didn't help either.

Yeah i get that but then St Kilda went and got Mason Wood who i have never really rated at North and has had 8 years of just cameo appearances at best was really strange

 

[hayes]

Yeah i get that but then St Kilda went and got Mason Wood who i have never really rated at North and has had 8 years of just cameo appearances at best was really strange

Your guess is as good as ours. We’ve become obsessed with medium-tall forwards lately and nobody can work out why.

 

[George]

Yeah i get that but then St Kilda went and got Mason Wood who i have never really rated at North and has had 8 years of just cameo appearances at best was really strange

Think you might be overrating Parker's career at St.Kilda. He's a good pressure forward that is a good size. He will probably do a lot better in a side that can cover for his deficiencies. Players around him can make up for his inconsistency and playing in a good side will probably help him too.

 

[bergholt]

Yeah i get that but then St Kilda went and got Mason Wood who i have never really rated at North and has had 8 years of just cameo appearances at best was really strange

If you can get answers out of the St Kilda Footy Club then please post them here, we're all stumped.

 

[Saint_Dos]

Yeah i get that but then St Kilda went and got Mason Wood who i have never really rated at North and has had 8 years of just cameo appearances at best was really strange

He was behind Lonie and Butler, and neck and neck with Kent who was contracted. We would also have known we were getting Higgins i think.
Same time most of us probably thought he would be kept.

As for Wood not sure anyone understands that. We do like medium talls both fwd and back.
Probably just coverage in the event of an injuries to King, Battle and Membrey.

 

[BrutThough]

He was behind Lonie and Butler, and neck and neck with Kent who was contracted. We would also have known we were getting Higgins i think.
Same time most of us probably thought he would be kept.

As for Wood not sure anyone understands that. We do like medium talls both fwd and back.
Probably just coverage in the event of an injuries to King, Battle and Membrey.

I'd say Kent was comfortably ahead Parker.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Wasn’t Wood a last minute signing? Like Hunter? Both due to our pre season injury crisis?

 

[LiterallyNobody]

I'd say Kent was comfortably ahead Parker.

Obviously given he was actually in the team. Keeping in mind we had Parker Hind Kent Lonie and Butler as small forwards and Gresh and Higgins and Billings who could push up too. That’s too many. Regardless of where we should’ve played them we needed to dispose of some of them. Looks like Parker and Hind drew those short straws. Unlucky.

 

[AirWinmar]

I'd say Kent was comfortably ahead Parker.

In 2020 yes, In 2019 no. In 2021 no.

 

[BrutThough]

Wasn’t Wood a last minute signing? Like Hunter? Both due to our pre season injury crisis?

I think Wood joined when everyone returned in January.

 

[AirWinmar]

I think Wood joined when everyone returned in January.

Yeah he trained with us before we signed him

 

[BrutThough]

In 2020 yes, In 2019 no. In 2021 no.

Kent played every game in 2019 until he was out for the season with injury so I'm not sure we ever found out what the pecking order was that year.

How is he behind in 2021 considering he is the one way stayed on the list?

 

[AirWinmar]

Think you might be overrating Parker's career at St.Kilda. He's a good pressure forward that is a good size. He will probably do a lot better in a side that can cover for his deficiencies. Players around him can make up for his inconsistency and playing in a good side will probably help him too.

Most teams aren't expecting 1st or 2nd year players to be very consistent in the 1sts luckily

 

[George]

Most teams aren't expecting 1st or 2nd year players to be very consistent in the 1sts luckily

He didn't even have to be very consistent. At least 3 good games out of every 10 would've been nice.

 

[AirWinmar]

Kent played every game in 2019 until he was out for the season with injury so I'm not sure we ever found out what the pecking order was that year.

How is he behind in 2021 considering he is the one way stayed on the list?

Parker has played far better in the wafl than Kent has played for Sandy this year so it's apples and apples.

I'd say Parker was comfortably better than Kent in 2019. I remember he was very average and everyone wanted him dropped. Ratts kept backing him in until he played a good game against the Dees in round 5. Then pretty average after that for the most part. Then injured. Plus he's got concrete hands and his kicking is hit and miss.

The covid year probably isn't best to judge players on. Some would have really struggled with it..

 

[AirWinmar]

He didn't even have to be very consistent. At least 3 good games out of every 10 would've been nice.

How many we delisting this year then?

 

[prophetic1]

Think you might be overrating Parker's career at St.Kilda. He's a good pressure forward that is a good size. He will probably do a lot better in a side that can cover for his deficiencies. Players around him can make up for his inconsistency and playing in a good side will probably help him too.

He didn't get a chance to be consistent....so that's a stretch! As you say lets move on hey!

 

[George]

He didn't get a chance to be consistent....so that's a stretch! As you say lets move on hey!

He didn't get a chance to be consistent? Based on what? He played 17 games in his first year.

How many we delisting this year then?

Probably could get rid of 12 without blinking.