Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 6

[adogsfan5]

Today's entry for bizarre person insults from 30 years ago--



Play the topic, rather than the man

It's not my fault you don't read half the posts in this thread.

Read posts and follow them properly and you won’t have to complain about insults, which you clearly get a lot.

 

[ChampRevesby]

I’m going to assume experts are suggesting Omicron will eventually become a controlled variant due to greater immunity and it being milder. That’s also with the hope of no other bad variants coming in. That doesn’t mean we are there yet, in which some are getting their knickers in a knot about.

Control is also about the prediction of new variants and vaccinating in preparation, exactly what we do with the flu. They just need to get the phylogenetics of this virus sorted before they can predict with accuracy what future variants looks like. But that usually takes many years of studying how it varies and how it manifests.

 

[ChampRevesby]

It’s not a disagreement. Disagree all you like. Just don’t make up BS along the way. Drives me deadset insane. I wasn’t having a go at anyone at the start about it not being endemic now, I also made a clear point that “experts have had differing views this whole pandemic” and that includes endemic timeframe. I also wasn’t suggesting that it’s becoming endemic now or in the near future. You chose to turn it that way for some reason.

One thing we can all agree on is that bastard of thing becomes endemic sooner rather than later.

 

[adogsfan5]

One thing we can all agree on is that bastard of thing becomes endemic sooner rather than later.

Haha we can only hope mate! Still got abit of work to go though I reckon!

 

[Joffaboy]

I’m going to assume experts are suggesting Omicron will eventually become a controlled variant due to greater immunity and it being milder. That’s also with the hope of no other bad variants coming in. That doesn’t mean we are there yet, in which some are getting their knickers in a knot about.

In the video I posted from that 'crackpot' Dr John Campbell he made the point that endemic doesn't mean OK.
He made the comparison to a bad UK flu season where between 200-300 people die everyday. There was also the point that the people who do die from flu will be the same type of people who die from covid so during a bad winter they would get back to that type of number.

 

[adogsfan5]

In the video I posted from that 'crackpot' Dr John Campbell he made the point that endemic doesn't mean OK.
He made the comparison to a bad UK flu season where between 200-300 people die everyday. There was also the point that the people who do die from flu will be the same type of people who die from covid so during a bad winter they would get back to that type of number.

correct. Still plenty of work to be done even if it does become endemic.

 

[Sttew]

Knickers in a knot isn’t a personal insult. It’s also not “multiple”. You do this all the time. You misread a conversation, people get frustrated with you and you then cry foul. It’s a pattern for you. Wouldn’t be here if you didn’t misread my post so badly and tried to turn it around.

Can't tell you how many times MrM has accused me of getting personal in exact the same manner you describe. If he doesn't like the way a conversation goes he accuses you of personal insults. Yet he is the first to like someone else you lobs personal insults.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Is this the way you people argue? FMD what a way to make a complete bellend of yourself.

Who doesn't love a "you people" reference?

 

[adogsfan5]

Load us up with some pills!

The antiviral COVID-19 drug that could change everything

As COVID-19 infections soar around the country with Omicron, new antiviral drugs recently approved by the TGA could help those infected from getting seriously sick and stay out of hospital.

nationalseniors.com.au

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Load us up with some pills!

The antiviral COVID-19 drug that could change everything

As COVID-19 infections soar around the country with Omicron, new antiviral drugs recently approved by the TGA could help those infected from getting seriously sick and stay out of hospital.

nationalseniors.com.au

Morrison and Hunt will wait until most of us are dead before they get some into the national stockpile.

Of course, they will then let the free market decide pricing instead of putting on the PBS.

 

[adogsfan5]

Morrison and Hunt will wait until most of us are dead before they get some into the national stockpile.

Of course, they will then let the free market decide pricing instead of putting on the PBS.

Correct mate!

 

[FIGJAM]

Morrison and Hunt will wait until most of us are dead before they get some into the national stockpile.

Of course, they will then let the free market decide pricing instead of putting on the PBS.

Wouldn't hurt if the TGA didn't take their sweet ******* time approving such things!

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

Dirty Rupe's outfits are merely stenographers for the right. This is just one example of their anti-Dan inflammatory, provocative, derisory, hateful, and inaccurate commentary

 

[FIGJAM]

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

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I wouldn't take too much from that yet given the shift in reporting (and people being asked to self-report RAT tests).

I hope it is the beginning of a trend but I'd want another couple of weeks of data at least.

 

[Sttew]

I wouldn't take too much from that yet given the shift in reporting (and people being asked to self-report RAT tests).

I hope it is the beginning of a trend but I'd want another couple of weeks of data at least.

It's completely in line with what Prof Tony Blakely predicted a few weeks back

 

[FIGJAM]

I wouldn't take too much from that yet given the shift in reporting (and people being asked to self-report RAT tests).

I hope it is the beginning of a trend but I'd want another couple of weeks of data at least.

Agreed to some extent, but you can't be too much of a negative nelly!

There are clear positive signs for the wave ride and we're tracking in line with most other Omnicron affected areas.

Will be a very tough lag for the hospitals, but it was going to be s**t whether it was the 'slow motion' Delta wave, or the 'fast forward' Omnicron wave.

Those 'dial a negative opinion' epidemiologist set who were calling for heightened restrictions and slagging off recent government decisions that took some balls can suck a fat one IMHO!

 

[Gralin]

It's impossible to know whether we've actually passed the peak or not

People have been massively discouraged from getting tested, we had a bunch of stories about how you cant get a PCR can't get a RAT and if you do get a PCR they could chuck it out without telling you

a lot of people have also gone back to staying home to avoid covid

It would be nice if we've passed the peak but all it really means is we've passed this peak

 

[FIGJAM]

It's impossible to know whether we've actually passed the peak or not

People have been massively discouraged from getting tested, we had a bunch of stories about how you cant get a PCR can't get a RAT and if you do get a PCR they could chuck it out without telling you

a lot of people have also gone back to staying home to avoid covid

It would be nice if we've passed the peak but all it really means is we've passed this peak

You seem like the sort of person who could be locked in a room full of supermodels and still complain!

 

[Deliverance]

It's completely in line with what Prof Tony Blakely predicted a few weeks back

It's been looking the most likely outcome for a while now.

 

[The Punter]

There's regular garden variety pessimism, and there's the "things are never, ever going to get better, ever" pessimism that passes for comment and analysis around here.

I think most people aren't that optimistic, they just possess a normal human impulse to see light at the end of the tunnel.

Also, most of the pessimism and criticism never comes with any proposal or strategy for how we get back to normal, which should be the entire end objective for any strategy.

"Numbers are down" - people aren't getting tested
"We're seeing a peak" - wait until hospitalisation numbers peak
"Perhaps this is where is becomes endemic" - define words to my satisfaction

IMO Omicron changed the game insofar as the measures that certainly worked at ending the second wave, and probably had a downward effect on the Delta wave, were never, ever going to do any good against this variant. Governments across Australia (except WA, which will have do "choose" what is happening in other states eventually) have held their nerve to a large extent. The start of the school year presents new challenges, especially for those who believe socialisation and education are mutually inclusive (one can't happen with remote learning). But responses since vaccination rates hit certain thresholds have been refreshing compared to those that took place between March 2020 and October 2021.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

You seem like the sort of person who could be locked in a room full of supermodels and still complain!

Mate, Gralin has made fair comment though.

There is simply not yet enough data to say whether we are past the Omicron peak. I know people who have tested positive but are not processing their RAT result online. The numbers are not reliable. That is a fact.

I am not overly bothered from a personal point of view, I am triple-vaxxed and getting about my life relatively normally. But given the parameters of how this data is recorded/reported have changed significantly in the past two weeks anybody who thinks that we have enough information to make a call one way or the other is a fool.

I hope we are past this wave and we may very well be. But the numbers that we are using to make this assessment are as flimsy as tissue paper.

 

[Maddhew]

There's regular garden variety pessimism, and there's the "things are never, ever going to get better, ever" pessimism that passes for comment and analysis around here.

I think most people aren't that optimistic, they just possess a normal human impulse to see light at the end of the tunnel.

Also, most of the pessimism and criticism never comes with any proposal or strategy for how we get back to normal, which should be the entire end objective for any strategy.

"Numbers are down" - people aren't getting tested
"We're seeing a peak" - wait until hospitalisation numbers peak
"Perhaps this is where is becomes endemic" - define words to my satisfaction

IMO Omicron changed the game insofar as the measures that certainly worked at ending the second wave, and probably had a downward effect on the Delta wave, were never, ever going to do any good against this variant. Governments across Australia (except WA, which will have do "choose" what is happening in other states eventually) have held their nerve to a large extent. The start of the school year presents new challenges, especially for those who believe socialisation and education are mutually inclusive (one can't happen with remote learning). But responses since vaccination rates hit certain thresholds have been refreshing compared to those that took place between March 2020 and October 2021.

Some people ignore any statistical trends under the guise of it not being absolute. These same people like to throw the ‘science’ word around a lot when arguing different subjects.

 

[Mick F]

You seem like the sort of person who could be locked in a room full of supermodels and still complain!

Not concerned with the prolonged period of stress* medical staff are being placed under? Or are they collateral damage, provided my share portfolio increases in value? Maybe the trickle down effect will allow their families to pay off their headstones, somewhere down the track?

*The long-term ongoing stress which can increase the risk for hypertension and inflammation in the circulatory system, particularly in the coronary arteries, leading to strokes and heart attacks.

 

[adogsfan5]

There's regular garden variety pessimism, and there's the "things are never, ever going to get better, ever" pessimism that passes for comment and analysis around here.

I think most people aren't that optimistic, they just possess a normal human impulse to see light at the end of the tunnel.

Also, most of the pessimism and criticism never comes with any proposal or strategy for how we get back to normal, which should be the entire end objective for any strategy.

"Numbers are down" - people aren't getting tested
"We're seeing a peak" - wait until hospitalisation numbers peak
"Perhaps this is where is becomes endemic" - define words to my satisfaction

IMO Omicron changed the game insofar as the measures that certainly worked at ending the second wave, and probably had a downward effect on the Delta wave, were never, ever going to do any good against this variant. Governments across Australia (except WA, which will have do "choose" what is happening in other states eventually) have held their nerve to a large extent. The start of the school year presents new challenges, especially for those who believe socialisation and education are mutually inclusive (one can't happen with remote learning). But responses since vaccination rates hit certain thresholds have been refreshing compared to those that took place between March 2020 and October 2021.

Best post I’ve seen in days. Well said.