List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[ams4crows]

The cross - over time period would be pretty close. We would have done plenty of grunt work to get him before appointing Nicks. I wonder by that time he had verbally agreed to come and it was too late to back even if Nicks didn’t want.

It was actually Ladhams we wanted originally from Port but they and him said No.

 

[Golumless]

Hypothetical...

Would you trade Laird for a pick 8-15?

If we had a more normal rebuilding list (say Hawks, Bombers, Fremantle in terms of age-quality profile), yes, I'd pull the trigger on that. With our current one, and how skewed it is? I'm rather hesitant of giving up anyone who is experience and genuine quality without significant overs coming back.

 

[ams4crows]

Isaac Cumming

13

Isaac Cumming

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

MG

158.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

158.0

3star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.6

4star

from GWS is also someone I'd target, the Broken Hill lad

 

[dogs105]

Agree
First Round picks the past 4 years
2018 - mcHEnry/Jones. Both small. Looks like a small forward and a small defender.
2019 - McAsey. Tall defender but looks better forward.
2020 - Thilthorpe an Pedlar. Tall Forward/Ruck and small inside mid.
2021 - Rachele - Small forward.

Not looking great for class other than Rachele.

Small inside mid?

 

[GreyCrow]

Given Cameron leaving GWS - does this take a lot of players off the market who would have left or did it matter?

 

[jacksoncalllow]

Has anyone asked the question of Hipwood? I think he could be a key player in a Crows guernsy.

 

[Scorpus]

We should still be miles off paying the salary cap so it's well worth having a dip at free agency.

Angus Brayshaw

10

Angus Brayshaw

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

4.3

5star

MG

233.5

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

7.8

4star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.2

4star

MG

233.5

4star

D

11.4

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

5.6

5star

Alex Pearce

25

Alex Pearce

Age

28

Ht

201cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

106.3

2star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

6.0

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

MG

103.2

2star

Karl Amon

10

Karl Amon

Age

28

Ht

181cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

294.5

4star

D

21.0

5star

K

15.0

5star

HB

6.0

3star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

146.8

3star

(to piss off Port)
Bailey Dale

31

Bailey Dale

Age

27

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

1.6

4star

MG

117.4

2star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

1.7

3star

MG

117.4

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

4star

Caleb Daniel

35

Caleb Daniel

Age

27

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

All worth asking serious questions

 

[Danger in Texas]

We should still be miles off paying the salary cap so it's well worth having a dip at free agency.

Angus Brayshaw
Alex Pearce
Karl Amon (to piss off Port)
Bailey Dale
Caleb Daniel

All worth asking serious questions

Bailey Dale is the most interesting name there to me. Zone breaker, Van never have enough of those

Pearce too, considering our lack of a 2nd KPD, but is he too injury prone?

 

[Scorpus]

Bailey Dale is the most interesting name there to me. Zone breaker, Van never have enough of those

Pearce too, considering our lack of a 2nd KPD, but is he too injury prone?

He probably is a bit injury prone. To be honest, a club like the Bulldogs should go hard at him. Dump a few of their free agents and get a genuine KPD. He's restricted though

 

[ABAB]

Agree
First Round picks the past 4 years
2018 - mcHEnry/Jones. Both small. Looks like a small forward and a small defender.
2019 - McAsey. Tall defender but looks better forward.
2020 - Thilthorpe an Pedlar. Tall Forward/Ruck and small inside mid.
2021 - Rachele - Small forward.

Not looking great for class other than Rachele.

You're going early on Thilthorpe.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Agree
First Round picks the past 4 years
2018 - mcHEnry/Jones. Both small. Looks like a small forward and a small defender.
2019 - McAsey. Tall defender but looks better forward.
2020 - Thilthorpe an Pedlar. Tall Forward/Ruck and small inside mid.
2021 - Rachele - Small forward.

Not looking great for class other than Rachele.

Cook was a first round pick in 2020 also.

 

[GrandGazza]

Isaac Cumming from GWS is also someone I'd target, the Broken Hill lad

Contracted till 2024. Agreed would be great!

 

[Kenny Dee]

Hypothetical...

Would you trade Laird for a pick 8-15?

You'd take it. In reality I don't think we'd get a pick inside the top 15 for him.

 

[1970crow]

Would be Roo, Reid, Hamish, Silvers and Nicks at the very least.

Kelly and in the past the CFO has sat on it as well.

 

[1970crow]

Hypothetical...

Would you trade Laird for a pick 8-15?

In a heartbeat

 

[Bearded Clam]

Hypothetical...

Would you trade Laird for a pick 8-15?

where do we sign?..

laird is a crap midfielder. the panic kick player of the century.

and our half back line has half a dozen options and all of them are quicker and use the ball far better than Rory so I dont want to see him sent back there. for a start Parnell looks ten times the Rory is..

there is a buckley’s and none chance of getting a pick between 8-15 for Laird though...

 

[Danger in Texas]

where do we sign?..

laird is a crap midfielder. the panic kick player of the century.

and our half back line has half a dozen options and all of them are quicker and use the ball far better than Rory so I dont want to see him sent back there. for a start Parnell looks ten times the Rory is..

there is a buckley’s and none chance of getting a pick between 8-15 for Laird though...

Geez, I really like Parnell but that’s some kind of confidence in a player that has played 0 AFL games

 

[hey shorty]

Agree
First Round picks the past 4 years
2018 - mcHEnry/Jones. Both small. Looks like a small forward and a small defender.
2019 - McAsey. Tall defender but looks better forward.
2020 - Thilthorpe an Pedlar. Tall Forward/Ruck and small inside mid.
2021 - Rachele - Small forward.

Not looking great for class other than Rachele.

Jones has plenty of class, starting to show it too.

I reckon Rachele is a bit more than a small forward too

 

[Truck25]

where do we sign?..

laird is a crap midfielder. the panic kick player of the century.

and our half back line has half a dozen options and all of them are quicker and use the ball far better than Rory so I dont want to see him sent back there. for a start Parnell looks ten times the Rory is..

there is a buckley’s and none chance of getting a pick between 8-15 for Laird though...

I'm a fan of Parnell, what I've seen of him at SANFL I really like, but he still needs a lot of development physically before you can make that call. He would get smashed at AFL level ATM.

 

[arrowman]

I'm a fan of Parnell, what I've seen of him at SANFL I really like, but he still needs a lot of development physically before you can make that call. He would get smashed at AFL level ATM.

Where is he playing in the SANFL? Is playing him on a wing, for example, an option for blooding him in the AFL?

 

[Truck25]

Where is he playing in the SANFL? Is playing him on a wing, for example, an option for blooding him in the AFL?

More halfback but does go up on the wing, got named as an emergency so maybe they will do exactly that. Good user, a bit bigger but still looks like a kid playing against men. Physically no worse than Sholl I suppose.

 

[skam85]

I'm a fan of Parnell, what I've seen of him at SANFL I really like, but he still needs a lot of development physically before you can make that call. He would get smashed at AFL level ATM.

Have you seen Lachy Sholl?

 

[LeftyLuke]

I'm a fan of Parnell, what I've seen of him at SANFL I really like, but he still needs a lot of development physically before you can make that call. He would get smashed at AFL level ATM.

Not if they can't catch him.

 

[DaKids]

I'm a fan of Parnell, what I've seen of him at SANFL I really like, but he still needs a lot of development physically before you can make that call. He would get smashed at AFL level ATM.

He’s taller and heavier than Bowey at Melbourne- and he goes ok.

If the player is good enough he’ll overcome physical limitations

 

[Crows I Am]

where do we sign?..

laird is a crap midfielder. the panic kick player of the century.

and our half back line has half a dozen options and all of them are quicker and use the ball far better than Rory so I dont want to see him sent back there. for a start Parnell looks ten times the Rory is..

there is a buckley’s and none chance of getting a pick between 8-15 for Laird though...

Laird did made the AA team twice as a backman. I hope you are right re Parnell, but it's a bit early to say that he will be ten times the player Laird was when he was playing back there.