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Also props to our bottom end who all held their own tonight - McComb was pretty good other than the set shot, Scott was good and McNeil was great when he came on.
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Dude you've made your point.
English is as valuable as he is is because he gets to work off the opposition ruck, who don't fit into any other structural position. What position do you propose English play? On ball? Wing? Key defender? Where does he line up on the 6 6 6 rule?
Full stats breakdown...
Expected Score / Actual Score (Expected Accuracy / Actual Accuracy)
WB: 127 / 125 (57% / 56%)
GW: 92 / 105 (57% / 67%)
Expected Margin / Actual Margin: 35 / 20
Centre Bounce Attendance
33 - T. English
28 - T. Liberatore
24 - Bontempelli, Treloar
23 - Macrae
18 - Dunkley
6 - Schache
Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage)
83 - English (34 / 8)
14 - Schache (3 / 1)
6 - Naughton (1 / 0)
3 - Ugle-Hagan (2 / 0)
English attended 33 centre bounces with the team winning 14 clearances (42%), losing 11 (33%) and bringing it to a secondary stoppage 8 times (25%)
Schache attended 6 centre bounces with the team winning 3 clearances (50%) and losing 3 (50%)
English v Keeffe (46 contests)
Hitouts: 23 / 17
To Advantage: 3 / 7
Clearances: 19 / 14
Score: 4.3 (27) / 2.1 (13)
English v Preuss (18 contests)
Hitouts: 5 / 10
To Advantage: 3 / 6
Clearances: 7 / 8
Score: 3.0 (18) / 1.2 (8)
Schache v Keeffe (9 contests)
Hitouts: 1 / 5
To Advantage: 0 / 0
Clearances: 5 / 4
Score: 0.0 (0) / 0.0 (0)
Schache v Preuss (1 contest)
Hitouts: 0 / 1
To Advantage: 0 / 0
Clearances: 1 / 0
Score: 0.1 (1) / 0.0 (0)
Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 9
GW: 13
First Possessions
WB: 48
GW: 41
Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 46 / 38
GW: 34 / 28
Tackle Efficiency
WB: 75%
GW: 62%
Spoil Efficiency
WB: 70%
GW: 69%
Smothers
WB: 3
GW: 6
Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 64%
GW: 72%
Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 75%
GW: 78%
Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 8
GW: 11
Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 5
GW: 6
Score Launches
6 - Dunkley, English
3 - Bontempelli
2 - Daniel, Keath, Liberatore, Macrae
1 - McComb, O’Brien, Weightman, West, Williams
Shots At Goal
WB: 34 (67%)
GW: 24 (56%)
Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / GWS)
Set Shot: 14.4 / 12.2
Snap: 2.1 / 1.1
On Run: 2.5 / 3.2
Mark Play On: 0.0 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 1.0 / 0.1
0M-15M: 6.0 / 3.1
15M-30M: 3.1 / 4.1
31M-40M: 4.5 / 4.0
41M-50M: 5.4 / 4.3
51M+: 1.0 / 1.1
Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 2.0 / 3.0
Scores In Time-On: 7.5 / 7.4
Targets Inside 50
15 - No target
10 - Naughton
9 - Weightman
3 - Schache, Ugle-Hagan, Weightman, West
2 - Scott
1 - Dunkley, English, Liberatore, McComb
Kick In / Kick In Play On
5 / 5 - Dale
3 / 3 - Daniel
1 / 0 - Johannisen
Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 18
GW: 21
Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 7
GW: 6
Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 21
GW: 24
Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 39
GW: 44
Unforced Turnovers
WB: 10
GW: 14
Unforced Turnovers By Player
2 - Bontempelli, English
1 - Johannisen, Macrae, McNeil., Treloar, Ugle-Hagan
Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 5
GW: 4
No Pressure Errors
WB: 6
GW: 7
Turnovers/Frees/50M Penalties Punished By Goals
2 - Bontempelli, Macrae
1 - Dunkley, English, Keath, O’Brien, Richards, Treloar
Pressure Points
66 - Dunkley
61 - Macrae
58 - Liberatore
58 - Bontempelli
41 - Treloar
37 - Weightman
34 - Schache
33 - McComb
31 - McNeil
30 - Dale
28 - West
27 - Williams
26 - Scott
21 - Daniel
16 - Naughton
15 - English
15 - Johannisen
15 - Richards
13 - Ugle-Hagan
6 - Gardner
4 - Duryea
4 - Keath
2 - O’Brien
Champion Data Ranking Points (Supercoach)
156 - Macrae
120 - Bontempelli
114 - Dunkley
110 - English
105 - Daniel
104 - Naughton
102 - Liberatore
100 - Weightman
88 - Treloar
87 - Dale
81 - Williams
80 - West
79 - Keath
59 - Schache
57 - Scott
53 - McComb
53 - McNeil
51 - Richards
50 - O’Brien
39 - Johannisen
34 - Gardner
34 - Ugle-Hagan
11 - Duryea
AFL Player Rating Points
23.0 - Naughton
22.6 - English
21.5 - Bontempelli
18.6 - Macrae
16.8 - Liberatore
16.1 - Dunkley
15.7 - Daniel
14.4 - Williams
14.2 - Weightman
12.0 - Keath
11.2 - West
9.3 - Dale
9.0 - Treloar
8.3 - McNeil
7.8 - O’Brien
7.8 - Richards
7.3 - Scott
7.1 - McComb
4.8 - Gardner
4.1 - Ugle-Hagan
3.0 - Johannisen
1.5 - Schache
-0.5 - Duryea
Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 47%
GW: 53%
Q2
WB: 54%
GW: 46%
Q3
WB: 76%
GW: 24%
Q4
WB: 47%
GW: 53%
Match
WB: 56%
GW: 44%
Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 164 (Poor)
GW: 182 (Average)
Q2
WB: 170 (Below Average)
GW: 174 (Below Average)
Q3
WB: 194 (Above Average)
GW: 170 (Below Average)
Q4
WB: 177 (Below Average)
GW: 193 (Above Average)
Match
WB: 176 (Below Average)
GW: 179 (Below Average)
Free Kick Summary
Score Sources
Expected Score / Actual Score (Expected Accuracy / Actual Accuracy)
WB: 127 / 125 (57% / 56%)
GW: 92 / 105 (57% / 67%)
Expected Margin / Actual Margin: 35 / 20
Centre Bounce Attendance
33 - T. English
28 - T. Liberatore
24 - Bontempelli, Treloar
23 - Macrae
18 - Dunkley
6 - Schache
Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage)
83 - English (34 / 8)
14 - Schache (3 / 1)
6 - Naughton (1 / 0)
3 - Ugle-Hagan (2 / 0)
English attended 33 centre bounces with the team winning 14 clearances (42%), losing 11 (33%) and bringing it to a secondary stoppage 8 times (25%)
Schache attended 6 centre bounces with the team winning 3 clearances (50%) and losing 3 (50%)
English v Keeffe (46 contests)
Hitouts: 23 / 17
To Advantage: 3 / 7
Clearances: 19 / 14
Score: 4.3 (27) / 2.1 (13)
English v Preuss (18 contests)
Hitouts: 5 / 10
To Advantage: 3 / 6
Clearances: 7 / 8
Score: 3.0 (18) / 1.2 (8)
Schache v Keeffe (9 contests)
Hitouts: 1 / 5
To Advantage: 0 / 0
Clearances: 5 / 4
Score: 0.0 (0) / 0.0 (0)
Schache v Preuss (1 contest)
Hitouts: 0 / 1
To Advantage: 0 / 0
Clearances: 1 / 0
Score: 0.1 (1) / 0.0 (0)
Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 9
GW: 13
First Possessions
WB: 48
GW: 41
Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 46 / 38
GW: 34 / 28
Tackle Efficiency
WB: 75%
GW: 62%
Spoil Efficiency
WB: 70%
GW: 69%
Smothers
WB: 3
GW: 6
Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 64%
GW: 72%
Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 75%
GW: 78%
Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 8
GW: 11
Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 5
GW: 6
Score Launches
6 - Dunkley, English
3 - Bontempelli
2 - Daniel, Keath, Liberatore, Macrae
1 - McComb, O’Brien, Weightman, West, Williams
Shots At Goal
WB: 34 (67%)
GW: 24 (56%)
Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / GWS)
Set Shot: 14.4 / 12.2
Snap: 2.1 / 1.1
On Run: 2.5 / 3.2
Mark Play On: 0.0 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 1.0 / 0.1
0M-15M: 6.0 / 3.1
15M-30M: 3.1 / 4.1
31M-40M: 4.5 / 4.0
41M-50M: 5.4 / 4.3
51M+: 1.0 / 1.1
Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 2.0 / 3.0
Scores In Time-On: 7.5 / 7.4
Targets Inside 50
15 - No target
10 - Naughton
9 - Weightman
3 - Schache, Ugle-Hagan, Weightman, West
2 - Scott
1 - Dunkley, English, Liberatore, McComb
Kick In / Kick In Play On
5 / 5 - Dale
3 / 3 - Daniel
1 / 0 - Johannisen
Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 18
GW: 21
Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 7
GW: 6
Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 21
GW: 24
Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 39
GW: 44
Unforced Turnovers
WB: 10
GW: 14
Unforced Turnovers By Player
2 - Bontempelli, English
1 - Johannisen, Macrae, McNeil., Treloar, Ugle-Hagan
Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 5
GW: 4
No Pressure Errors
WB: 6
GW: 7
Turnovers/Frees/50M Penalties Punished By Goals
2 - Bontempelli, Macrae
1 - Dunkley, English, Keath, O’Brien, Richards, Treloar
Pressure Points
66 - Dunkley
61 - Macrae
58 - Liberatore
58 - Bontempelli
41 - Treloar
37 - Weightman
34 - Schache
33 - McComb
31 - McNeil
30 - Dale
28 - West
27 - Williams
26 - Scott
21 - Daniel
16 - Naughton
15 - English
15 - Johannisen
15 - Richards
13 - Ugle-Hagan
6 - Gardner
4 - Duryea
4 - Keath
2 - O’Brien
Champion Data Ranking Points (Supercoach)
156 - Macrae
120 - Bontempelli
114 - Dunkley
110 - English
105 - Daniel
104 - Naughton
102 - Liberatore
100 - Weightman
88 - Treloar
87 - Dale
81 - Williams
80 - West
79 - Keath
59 - Schache
57 - Scott
53 - McComb
53 - McNeil
51 - Richards
50 - O’Brien
39 - Johannisen
34 - Gardner
34 - Ugle-Hagan
11 - Duryea
AFL Player Rating Points
23.0 - Naughton
22.6 - English
21.5 - Bontempelli
18.6 - Macrae
16.8 - Liberatore
16.1 - Dunkley
15.7 - Daniel
14.4 - Williams
14.2 - Weightman
12.0 - Keath
11.2 - West
9.3 - Dale
9.0 - Treloar
8.3 - McNeil
7.8 - O’Brien
7.8 - Richards
7.3 - Scott
7.1 - McComb
4.8 - Gardner
4.1 - Ugle-Hagan
3.0 - Johannisen
1.5 - Schache
-0.5 - Duryea
Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 47%
GW: 53%
Q2
WB: 54%
GW: 46%
Q3
WB: 76%
GW: 24%
Q4
WB: 47%
GW: 53%
Match
WB: 56%
GW: 44%
Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 164 (Poor)
GW: 182 (Average)
Q2
WB: 170 (Below Average)
GW: 174 (Below Average)
Q3
WB: 194 (Above Average)
GW: 170 (Below Average)
Q4
WB: 177 (Below Average)
GW: 193 (Above Average)
Match
WB: 176 (Below Average)
GW: 179 (Below Average)
Free Kick Summary
Score Sources
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Exactly as Schache did tonight - he was forward he was back he was around the contest (not as the ruckman) that’s the thing with Timmy he could start forward 6-6-6 and be a marking target if we win the clearance, and then get on his bike and run any defender in the league with the size to match up on him, completely off their legs whilst he roams the field as a tall flanker/half forward
Libba and West. The rest kind of struggled. Jackson excluded
Thought Dunks was good too.
Schache had 6 CBAs and we lost 11 of them!
Can someone please explain to me what “toe talks” or whatever the term was they used post his interview means?
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I'm so proud of Weightman and Naughton, after copping some deserved criticism, great to see them lift.
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10 Clearances from English. 6 Centre Clearances.
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Fair point, really strong numbers from him - becoming quite a common sight to see him strolling out of the centre which is a nice bonus. His 2nd half he became much more assertive in the guts which is the next step for him
Backline still a worry…Khamis for O’Brien and Crozier for Duyrea.
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And Naughts had a night out because the oppo defenders couldn't sag off and triple team him all the time. Go figure
His inside 50 kicks though lead directly to 2 goals. Did have a poster which I would normally expect that he would kick. Competed well in the ruck and around the ground solid game from the Shack
The pressure rating sums up the game as soon that lifted in the second half the game turned. Most was of it were very fixable errors; midfielders all on one side of a stoppage, half back/forwards being to slow to impact at the back of the stoppage, giving to much space in the corridor on transition, as well as the aerial issues of defenders not putting any body contact on forwards early and defenders not backing themselves in the air and going for the ball.
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Only concern with Khamis would be his ability to run out the match mostly our defenders have a high tog which I don't think he is capable of yet
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Wonder what our win/loss and percentage would be based on expected scores for the year?
Those ruck stats arent great against a makeshift.
Tim still does that thing in ball ups and throw ins where he waits for the opposing ruck to make first movement and physical contact, those ones are quite often a hit out to advantage to the opposition. he needs to initiate or match.
The passive instinct is so hard to overcome, Schache too, he's 10 or 15% more proactivity and aggression away from a good AFL player
Good win by the boys. Weight man, West , McComb and McNeil all look to be on an improving trajectory which is great. McComb looked to honour leads more in the second half after his miss in the first half. Wonder if that was his decision or an instruction.
Having more threats up forward allowed Naughton to really show what he can do. Long may it continue.
Having more threats up forward allowed Naughton to really show what he can do. Long may it continue.
Had to roll my eyes at Bev in the post game presser, defending last week's forward structure by saying the issue wasn't the lack of talls but our ball use going inside 50. Obviously better ball use is going to improve you no matter who you have up forward and how tall they are, but it was blindingly obvious that last night was a win for structure. JUH and Schache aren't particularly good but they played their role and it let Naughts and Cody do some damage.
I know that's just Bev not wanting to concede he got something wrong publicly, clearly they recognised the issue by their selecting of Marra and Schache. But my god do I hope it's something we stick with. Naughts in genuine 1 on 1s is almost impossible to stop.
I know that's just Bev not wanting to concede he got something wrong publicly, clearly they recognised the issue by their selecting of Marra and Schache. But my god do I hope it's something we stick with. Naughts in genuine 1 on 1s is almost impossible to stop.
Liked what I saw from Schache and JUH. Worth persisting with. Helped Naughton / Weightman out by having additional targets.
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