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Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

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Tim O'Brien or Will Gould? View attachment 1827623
O’Brian’s manager was on trade radio today, same manager as Parfitt and actually cockatoo and linc so obviously has a bit of geelong link.
He said O’Brian is open to different options, might go into trade, maybe afl lifeline or vfl. It could be that geelong are looking at him for the vfl list or rookie. We certainly need some more defensive options so hopefully they cast a wide net to find some.

I’d hope we look at El Nour and Phillips from the vfl as a late pick or rookie.
Phillips was highly rated but might need to sort some things out to succeed at afl level. I’ve seen El Nour play a fair bit at vfl level he looks like he has a great game to translate to afl would love cats to give him a shot.

Both the players you’ve posted a hybrid defenders and not the type I think we actually need. With Sav gone if Dekoning got injured we really don’t have any key defenders.
We have Henry, Guthrie, Stewart, Kolo to play in that hybrid role.
 
It's been a problem his whole career though.

I've said it before, but he's a player who doesn't hurt you by foot, and doesn't kick goals.

Think Tom Mitchell or Matt Crouch, but at least they get it 30-40 times a game, and that's the level required to impact games if you are a midfielder who doesn't have the aforementioned qualities.

Hopefully with a higher fitness base/running ability he can work his way over the ground and find more 'easy ball' to go with his contested game.

Tom Mitchell averaged 25 disposals this year and was a much better player for it.
 
Who is this Edwards Ruck we are talking about?

Charles Edwards in this draft is a 190cm outside midfielder... Probably the no2 outside midfielder we probably will look at if Darcy Wilson is not available. Wilson you'd look at in the 10-20 range, Edwards you'd look at in the 18-35 range.

Mitch edwards. Freo academy player but only after p40.
 

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Personally id take Obrien - he had alot of talent re his Haw days - inconsistent - but at Geel - skillfull sort of side he might go good - dont know what happened at Footscray - Markov is no worldbeater but he went from Tigerland to the Suns ( no good at all ) to Coll - where he is now a Premiership player

Re Obrien - there is some Nth Melb player - key position player ive forgotten his name - he allways played well against the Cats - a teaser like Obrien - but Nth delisted him - and another team picked him up - and i thought he did all right - and i can remember thinking i wouldnt have minded him at Geel

You have to have talent and i reckon Obrien has got some
Which decade?
I can think of a few.
 
I’m very keen on Collard from WA. Kicked two bags of five in the WAFL colts finals. Looks a Shai Bolton clone.



Very good player but huge flight risk given his behaviour this year. Id be reticent to risk him.
 
That was obviously an oversight.

We haven't lost any personnel from our 2022 premiership defence (SDK, J.Henry, Kolo, Stewart, Bews, Tuohy) so why is it so dire all of a sudden?
Tuohy is on his last legs, Jack Henry is struggling to get out on the park, SDK is banged up and a shadow of his 2022 self, Bews is older, slower and not in our best backline, Kolo same reasons as for Bews. That 2022 backline for all of the reasons above is no longer good enough. I feel like I am repeating myself.
 
Reality though- we are the worst MF this season, for injury reasons, but what he says is true, the grass may not be greener elsewhere.
Good that we have him for 24 anyway, big chance he proves his worth, has a real breakout season, at worst, good depth.
At least he looks to be starting 24 with more running capacity.
If you think that our midfield was worse than WC then I don’t know what to tell you
 




PORT FORWARD UNDERGOES MEDICAL​

OUT-OF-CONTRACT small forward Orazio Fantasia has undergone a medical with Greater Western Sydney as he looks to extend his AFL career.

The 28-year-old is yet to secure a new deal at Port Adelaide after managing just four appearances across the past two seasons for a total of 19 games since moving from Essendon at the end of 2020.

Greater Western Sydney has met with Fantasia, but the Giants aren't expected to have any list spots available to trade for him or sign him as a delisted free agent at the start of November, with the club interested in adding a mature-age player via the Rookie Draft.

I'm astounded Raz would pass a medical
 
Tuohy is on his last legs, Jack Henry is struggling to get out on the park, SDK is banged up and a shadow of his 2022 self, Bews is older, slower and not in our best backline, Kolo same reasons as for Bews. That 2022 backline for all of the reasons above is no longer good enough. I feel like I am repeating myself.

And the sky is falling.
 

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Latest murmurings are that WC will retain pick 1 and take Reid. North to use 2 and 3 on McKercher and Duursma. Leaves Hawks with Watson and Dogs likely to take Sanders. Disappointing but the Sanders dream to fall to us was probably always unlikely.

Melb looking at Caddy or Curtin. Leaves GWS to take the other or O’Sullivan.

Leaves us with one of those 3 above or Wilson.
 
Latest murmurings are that WC will retain pick 1 and take Reid. North to use 2 and 3 on McKercher and Duursma. Leaves Hawks with Watson and Dogs likely to take Sanders. Disappointing but the Sanders dream to fall to us was probably always unlikely.

Melb looking at Caddy or Curtin. Leaves GWS to take the other or O’Sullivan.

Leaves us with one of those 3 above or Wilson.

Would be happy with either curtin, caddy or O’Sullivan
 
Tuohy is on his last legs, Jack Henry is struggling to get out on the park, SDK is banged up and a shadow of his 2022 self, Bews is older, slower and not in our best backline, Kolo same reasons as for Bews. That 2022 backline for all of the reasons above is no longer good enough. I feel like I am repeating myself.
Henry was extremely unlucky to injure his non recurring foot with an impact injury. He had grown into his 2021 form and will have a big year in 2024.

SDK will bounce back, as young guns tend to do.

Kolo had the worst year of his career but even 2016-2021 version of Kolo returning would shore us up back there. Fair enough on Bews there is more doubt.

Duncan or O'Connor can join Zuthrie and Stewart (both excellent 2023s) as the third rebounder to replace Tuohy. Maybe both of them.

It's still a good group. It's not that old of a group if Tuohy is more of a reserve. Back them in.
 

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Wouldnt work against the top sides that just mark the footy all game long
We'd be playing a different style of football. A team rule to never go down the line, quick switch at every play rush the ball to HFF
 
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If you think that our midfield was worse than WC then I don’t know what to tell you
Fair point. Their names are ok, but they were as affected by injury as we were, maybe moreso- Kelly, Shuey, Sheed, Gaff, Hewett, Ginbey...
 
Latest murmurings are that WC will retain pick 1 and take Reid. North to use 2 and 3 on McKercher and Duursma. Leaves Hawks with Watson and Dogs likely to take Sanders. Disappointing but the Sanders dream to fall to us was probably always unlikely.

Melb looking at Caddy or Curtin. Leaves GWS to take the other or O’Sullivan.

Leaves us with one of those 3 above or Wilson.
Of all the players for the dogs to trade up for, an inside mid to me makes the least sense. Am I missing something?
 
It was Mason Wood - and i just looked him up - and i see he played all 24 games for StKilda this year

Obrien reminds me a bit of him
Mason Wood. Yes, very talented and an underperformer at NM mainly injuries and then the Covid years. Geelong Falcon too.
 
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