Review R9: The Good, Bad and the Ugly vs. Port Adelaide

[FR0GGY]

I would say with some certainty that it means either "keep shape" or "control"

Could have used a Murphy photo then.

 

[Cromulant]

Could have used a Murphy photo then.

That would have made it too obvious !!!

 

[FR0GGY]

That would have made it too obvious !!!

Could have meant your all shit, do better

 

[WetCrow1991]

Or we could gone for the knockout blow and received a huge uppercut for our trouble. If we kicked 2 goals ourselves out the back is it still bad coaching or just a better execution of the same plan?

Everyone is a genius in hindsight.

Hindsight? Plenty of people where complaining as it was unfolding. No hindsight about it. There are plenty of example of Nicks doing goofy shit and it not working out, there is no need to explore hypothetical scenarios where we kicked 2 goals that didn't happen.

It's like: "Hey Nicks made his 50th bonehead coaching move that didn't work out, but imagine if it did work out???:O"

 

[WetCrow1991]

I thought we were doing pretty well until about 6.50 left when Milera decided to stuff up a sideways 15 metre kick instead of going long into the forward which should have resulted in a goal. Between he and Laird costing us 2 goals.

He also tripped over thin air, don't forget that.

 

[ABAB]

To be fair parking the bus like we did with 10 minutes to play enabled them to get I50s of 17 to 2 in that period. Up till then it was relatively close in I50s.
The rest I agree with as I was also scratching my head as to how we won with those appalling stat differences.
But this just proves that stats don't always tell the full story.
The one stat that ultimately proved the difference in the result was our goal efficiency of 31% to their 19%. If this was reversed we lose. Simple.

+15 is way more than the +10 I thought which was already very bad, they probably also had +10 clearances in that 10 minutes given the +15 inside 50. We won because they kicked 2.6 instead of 6.2, I don't recall ever a team shutdown with 10 minutes to play in the 4th quarter, 5 minutes sure.

 

[Cromulant]

Could have meant your all shit, do better

"Guys its the last quarter, dont touch the pill"

 

[BRL121]

Outrageous! On 360 tonight, they incorrectly listed the coaches votes by taking 1 off TT and giving it to Rozee.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I don't like that stuff personally. There was a reason why we were 22 points up. Stick to that reason.

In the main yes, but there is a time for playing the moment.

If we are capable of slowing it down a bit against Geelong late in that second quarter rather than giving up three goals we probably win the game.

But both the timing of it, and the way we went about it were both failures upon any sensible consideration. Was there something about slowing it down that meant that we couldn't ever find open players for a chip back and forth to take some time off? Or we do we recognise that our backline ball users don't have the kicking skill for that (whilst refusing to put more skilled people in those positions)?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I would say with some certainty that it means either "keep shape" or "control"

Should have Murphy holding up the sign lol...

Edit - beaten by Froggy again.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

"Guys its the last quarter, dont touch the pill"

So it nearly did its job.

 

[cleanhands]

Who wants him dropped every week? You made that up.

He had a great night. Have you acknowledged it when he hasn’t? Or when he’s made stupid costly errors?

Interesting how Butts taking their best forward allowed him to play more as an interceptor, now who was suggesting that move?

Slice not a fan

 

[Southerntakeover]

Should have Murphy holding up the sign lol...

Edit - beaten by Froggy again.

Break out the COVID warnings

 

[Soggy2112]

The freakish thing about him is that if he was a bog average contested mark his ground/ball skills would still make him a difficult to match up on freak.

Buddy Franklin made a Hall of Fame career out of doing exactly that.

 

[Crow till I die]

 

[George CantStandYa]

I saw Rowey interviewing Hinge and asking him why they went defensive so early when Port were resting Visentini, Rozee and Butters or something to that effect. Hinge said it was more about control from D50 rather than going defensive and the execution needed some work.

Perhaps its a reaction from the Geelong game where we were far too aggressive coming out of D50 and Geelong players just peeled back and cut everything off.

If Nicks said "keep going aggressive" who knows what would have happened. We could have kicked 0.3 and Port got us on the rebound and 6/6/6 from the centre kicking 4.2 to win by a point.

I doubt anyone on here would be saying "I'm glad Nicks didn't order a defensive setup, 5-4 is awesome" after that (or whatever the T+Bicep sign actually means).

No he said “more control and less risks”

Which means slow ball movement and more contests which is exactly what happened.

 

[GrommoT]

Robbie Gray was the worst at it - before he retired, he obviously passed on his knowledge to Rozee and Butters of how to flop/duck into tackles to draw a free kick

Ahh, memories.....

 

[Coopers]

He also tripped over thin air, don't forget that.

Well the air is deceptively flat

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

I saw Nicks had a radio interview this morning where I think King asked him about an alternative to Thilthorpe doing second ruck and Curtin was who Nicks suggested as our ‘third’ but that he’s young.

That Sidebottom vs Robbie Gray comment explains why Murphy continually got games. Nicks is so conservative.

 

[adelaidecrows]

No he said “more control and less risks”

Which means slow ball movement and more contests which is exactly what happened.

Shades of that perfect game plan from round 1 to 5 in 2024!

 

[MRB37]

I wonder if the symbols were a squid game reference?

We should bust out this one like GWS did.

 

[King Elvis]

Anybody suggested that our tall forward line might be a contributing factor in mids like Soli looking pretty buggered?

 

[AFC979810]

Anybody suggested that our tall forward line might be a contributing factor in mids like Soli looking pretty buggered?

Why?

It's the most efficient forward line in the league.

 

[Stephen2]

As I said, you don't know what the result would have been if we continued with a more aggressive approach with 10 minutes left.
...
Who knows!

Look, this forum is fun, and I will listen to all points of view. But let's be clear: the argument "We don't know what the alternative timeline would be, so what happened must be right/the best" is the least logical thing I've ever heard.

I call it the John Who special.

What if we continued with a more aggressive approach, and then the Earth exploded? We can't know.

It's the dumbest argument style I've ever read. Shame on you.

 

[davos44]

Look, this forum is fun, and I will listen to all points of view. But let's be clear: the argument "We don't know what the alternative timeline would be, so what happened must be right/the best" is the least logical thing I've ever heard.

I call it the John Who special.

What if we continued with a more aggressive approach, and then the Earth exploded? We can't know.

It's the dumbest argument style I've ever read. Shame on you.

Nice strawman.