Review R13: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. Brisbane Lions

[George CantStandYa]

Maybe there's only so much gambling that pays off until we're caught out so the plan was to take some speed off the game but couldn't get things moving again and just held on?

Against Port as well?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Cumming on 5AA: “message at 3/4 time was go for it, don’t die wandering” “our start in the last was based on attack”

So then with a lead we go defensive, concede shit load inside 50s and rely on opposition inaccuracy.

Cumming then goes on to say the last disposal we had in our front half was with 9mins 38 left. Wow.

Yep, nothing wrong with stopping attacking and go defensive. FMD, how can any one actually defend this?

The problem is that doing the right thing and attacking means Nicks has to essentially admit his defense first philosophy on football in flawed and he's either too stupid or too insecure to do that.

 

[dylan123]

Against Port as well?

Possibly.

Don't remember the game so well but both games we won the individual quarters and the game so it doesn't seem like the biggest area of concern.

Regarding the most recent game, with 3min left it was in our forward half of the ground and we also kicked a goal with 8 min and 52 seconds left on the clock.


Obviously not great we were unable to move the ball further up in the dying minutes and hopefully it's something they focus on further. I do think if we were down, our kick outs would have changed to something more attacking and not from the 15 year old playbook of long down to the right.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Possibly.

Don't remember the game so well but both games we won the individual quarters and the game so it doesn't seem like the biggest area of concern.

Regarding the most recent game, with 3min left it was in our forward half of the ground and we also kicked a goal with 8 min and 52 seconds left on the clock.


Obviously not great we were unable to move the ball further up in the dying minutes and hopefully it's something they focus on further. I do think if we were down, our kick outs would have changed to something more attacking and not from the 15 year old playbook of long down to the right.

Cumming said the review identified we didn’t have the ball in our forward half for 9.38 secs.

And if Neale doesn’t miss a sitter and we lose would it be an area of concern? Relying on opposition inaccuracy doesn’t seem to be a sound strategy, especially when Nicks said we were lucky!

 

[MrBarry]

Cumming on 5AA: “message at 3/4 time was go for it, don’t die wandering” “our start in the last was based on attack”

So then with a lead we go defensive, concede shit load inside 50s and rely on opposition inaccuracy.

Cumming then goes on to say the last disposal we had in our front half was with 9mins 38 left. Wow.

Yep, nothing wrong with stopping attacking and go defensive. FMD, how can any one actually defend this?

Is it possible that rather than the coaches telling them to go defensive, the players got nervous and made that call?

 

[George CantStandYa]

Is it possible that rather than the coaches telling them to go defensive, the players got nervous and made that call?

Except at the Port game we saw the sign to slow it down, no mention whether it was up against Port.

It’s clear what the players are instituted to do.

 

[cleanhands]

Cumming said the review identified we didn’t have the ball in our forward half for 9.38 secs.

And if Neale doesn’t miss a sitter and we lose would it be an area of concern? Relying on opposition inaccuracy doesn’t seem to be a sound strategy, especially when Nicks said we were lucky!

More negativity

 

[George CantStandYa]

More negativity

I hate winning so much I criticise stuff that doesn’t help us win, yep makes sense

 

[MRB37]

Rayner had 11 score involvements with 2.2 of his own. I thought his power and ability to get clear in the midfield was big for the Lions getting scores, especially in the first half.

 

[dylan123]

Cumming said the review identified we didn’t have the ball in our forward half for 9.38 secs.

And if Neale doesn’t miss a sitter and we lose would it be an area of concern? Relying on opposition inaccuracy doesn’t seem to be a sound strategy, especially when Nicks said we were lucky!

We didn't have it in our forward half for a total of 9.38 seconds or it didn't enter our forward half with 9.38 seconds left?

 

[George CantStandYa]

We didn't have it in our forward half for a total of 9.38 seconds or it didn't enter our forward half with 9.38 seconds left?

Left

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Rayner had 11 score involvements with 2.2 of his own. I thought his power and ability to get clear in the midfield was big for the Lions getting scores, especially in the first half.

Was their Rachele up forward making all possessions count.

 

[Samcro24]

I feel like we haven't been a smart tap on side, but we saw two, walker and fogarty against the lions.

At the game it looked to me like we were trying to play like it was dry. Then we start tapping it on and what do you know, we start scoring. Pedlars goal was courtesy of a knock on by Rankine too

 

[dylan123]

Left

I suppose our kick to the forward half with 3min left was the ANB roll off the boot/miss so probably doesn't count.

 

[George CantStandYa]

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I suppose our kick to the forward half with 3min left was the ANB roll off the boot/miss so probably doesn't count.

Going on what Cumming said was discussed at the review today. That’s clearly what the coaches told them

 

[MarcusP2]

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I suppose our kick to the forward half with 3min left was the ANB roll off the boot/miss so probably doesn't count.

I'd guess they meant actual game time (rather than clock time) and that we didn't have a forward half possession (rather than the ball didn't cross the halfway line).

 

[BRL121]

We made most of the top-10 round 13 highlights on the AFL site.

 

[Huang LoWel]

Bad: Someone needs to tell Tex Walker to stop trying to fend off multiple oppos. Being caught holding the ball has become a weekly occurrence for him this year.
Is it past him to notice the "first give" or has ambition gotten in the way of current ability?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Is it possible that rather than the coaches telling them to go defensive, the players got nervous and made that call?

Just a theory I'm throwing out there but I reckon Nicks wants to win his way and is insecure about being found out as a fraud. I think that's why he keeps bashing his head against a wall with the defensive stuff. I think that's why he rejected help years ago and I think having blokes like Murray Davis join the club would only ratchet up his fear.

 

[suburpy]

Sorry, but that's remarkably untrue.

Major sporting events are the highest earning destination tourism activity we have. The AFL is the most significant and consistent earner in the sporting space, and one of the biggest domestic tourism drivers overall.

It's actually the exact opposite of what you're suggesting.

In Tassie ? AFL is their most consistent and significant earner. I wasn’t talking SA. Maybe tone down the remarkably untrue but hey. The way we talk to people matters and you could say what you said without … well … frankly needlessly know it all and adversarial. What I said in relation to a post about Tassie was not the exact opposite of what I wrote. Their tourism dollar is driven by wilderness experience, not sport and 12 AFl games are year do not change that.

 

[suburpy]

It’s funny isn’t it I heard McRae say he coaches his final minutes scenarios by asking players for input into hypothetical situations so the players get ownership. But on here nix asks the players for thoughts at 3/4 time and there is a meltdown.

 

[George CantStandYa]

It’s funny isn’t it I heard McRae say he coaches his final minutes scenarios by asking players for input into hypothetical situations so the players get ownership. But on here nix asks the players for thoughts at 3/4 time and there is a meltdown.

Where’s the meltdown about that?

Interesting that he did ask the players and the answer was attack, go for it. We scored 5 goals doing that.

Do you think we 3/4 time Nicks asked them when we hit the lead what should we do? Or is it more likely that once we hit the lead Nicks took over again?

 

[NSolis]

Just a theory I'm throwing out there but I reckon Nicks wants to win his way and is insecure about being found out as a fraud. I think that's why he keeps bashing his head against a wall with the defensive stuff. I think that's why he rejected help years ago and I think having blokes like Murray Davis join the club would only ratchet up his fear.

Imagine making this post about the highest scoring team in the league, sitting third on the ladder. Sometimes this forum is really on another planet.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Imagine making this post about the highest scoring team in the league, sitting third on the ladder. Sometimes this forum is really on another planet.

Imagine not thinking it's at all weird that a team turned it's shit around after hiring somebody to assist a coach who had 5 years of failure under his belt.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Maybe there's only so much gambling that pays off until we're caught out so the plan was to take some speed off the game but couldn't get things moving again and just held on?

The idea is fine

We don't seem to trust our footskills at that crunch/shut down time though. Resort to the bail out option almost instantly.