Autopsy Round 22, 2025: Hawks thump the Pies

[Yardie]

Imagine this kind of analysis in footy media. Really like Jeff's content.

I think I know my football. When it comes to comparing myself to some in the media I think I might be close.

Then you watch someone who actually knows their football and realise that it's all about the clickbait for some others.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

I'd have Mitchell smacking Jai's head with a frying pan before every game if this is how to unlock his best. He goes to another level when it gets physical.

You'd blow the club budget in replacing bent frying pans though

 

[grumbleguts]

If you're in a car and you see a truck coming you give way... Talking to YOU Jeremy Howe

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Jeremy Howe

Age

35

Ht

190cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

21.5

5star

K

16.5

5star

HB

5.0

3star

M

6.5

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

433.3

5star

D

15.2

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

.

 

[RCAB]

Noticed Ward and Worpel often had Naicos during transition play and hurt him the other way. Especially Ward with his running power and elite skill.

I think this is why coaches prefer to tag in this manner rather than have one player follow the whole game, much more effective. Of course it's much harder to execute and requires more coordination.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

You'd blow the club budget in replacing bent frying pans though

Yeah, you’d want a paviours beetle, but even those would would need to be replaced regularly

 

[humid hawk]

I just found some interesting stats on the app. To the naked eye it looked like we had them cold for workrate, sprints and all the rest. Not so.



We ran a grand total of 4kms more distance over the game - a difference of only 1.4%. High speed was almost the same.



This is very interesting. Barring Howe's stats as an anomaly (I mean, humans tend to accelerate pretty heavily when crunching into Jai Newcombe) the Pies were all up the top of the list in terms of average speed in attack.



When it comes to average speed in defence though, we had them on toast. (It's also amazing how many times Moore and Ward are mentioned in various top 5 stats in terms of endurance and speed. Absolute freaks.) So, it looks like our plan was to swarm in defence, and then analyse and move forward quickly but with an emphasis on control, changing angles and finding loose players with time and space to hit targets. This is borne out by the last two stats:





So to me, it looks like the plan was to force the aging Pies into a whole lot of useless and unrewarded running, whereas we pushed hard in defence but then waited for the right options in attack. Apologies for the stats spam, I just found it mega interesting.

 

[RCAB]

I just found some interesting stats on the app. To the naked eye it looked like we had them cold for workrate, sprints and all the rest. Not so.

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We ran a grand total of 4kms more distance over the game - a difference of only 1.4%. High speed was almost the same.

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This is very interesting. Barring Howe's stats as an anomaly (I mean, humans tend to accelerate pretty heavily when crunching into Jai Newcombe) the Pies were all up the top of the list in terms of average speed in attack.

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When it comes to average speed in defence though, we had them on toast. (It's also amazing how many times Moore and Ward are mentioned in various top 5 stats in terms of endurance and speed. Absolute freaks.) So, it looks like our plan was to swarm in defence, and then analyse and move forward quickly but with an emphasis on control, changing angles and finding loose players with time and space to hit targets. This is borne out by the last two stats:

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So to me, it looks like the plan was to force the aging Pies into a whole lot of useless and unrewarded running, whereas we pushed hard in defence but then waited for the right options in attack. Apologies for the stats spam, I just found it mega interesting.

A similar thing happened last week. Collingwood didn't match Lions when they attacked, they're defensive running was .3 km off last week too.

They did the same thing against Fremantle as wella free weeks back. Usually their system was so good, they could "cheat" a little, as their zone would intercept. Teams have worked out if you go quick through the centre against the Pies they don't have the leg speed to match.

 

[H00t]

I just found some interesting stats on the app. To the naked eye it looked like we had them cold for workrate, sprints and all the rest. Not so.

View attachment 2390613

We ran a grand total of 4kms more distance over the game - a difference of only 1.4%. High speed was almost the same.

View attachment 2390615

This is very interesting. Barring Howe's stats as an anomaly (I mean, humans tend to accelerate pretty heavily when crunching into Jai Newcombe) the Pies were all up the top of the list in terms of average speed in attack.

View attachment 2390616

When it comes to average speed in defence though, we had them on toast. (It's also amazing how many times Moore and Ward are mentioned in various top 5 stats in terms of endurance and speed. Absolute freaks.) So, it looks like our plan was to swarm in defence, and then analyse and move forward quickly but with an emphasis on control, changing angles and finding loose players with time and space to hit targets. This is borne out by the last two stats:

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View attachment 2390624

So to me, it looks like the plan was to force the aging Pies into a whole lot of useless and unrewarded running, whereas we pushed hard in defence but then waited for the right options in attack. Apologies for the stats spam, I just found it mega interesting.

This is really common in games that are one sided. The more dominant team runs a lot less with the ball. Especially when one team controls field position as the opposition have to move it the full length of the field to score which gives a lot more room to run where having the ball mostly in your forward line gives a lot less space and lots of running isn’t as well rewarded.

 

[SJT76]

Hawks almost always have higher defensive speed than offensive. Our opponents almost always opposite. We push back hard and hit targets going forward. Other teams try to break forward without as much of a target. I think Gunston is a big part of this

 

[Sprint Artisan]

I just found some interesting stats on the app. To the naked eye it looked like we had them cold for workrate, sprints and all the rest. Not so.

View attachment 2390613

We ran a grand total of 4kms more distance over the game - a difference of only 1.4%. High speed was almost the same.

View attachment 2390615

This is very interesting. Barring Howe's stats as an anomaly (I mean, humans tend to accelerate pretty heavily when crunching into Jai Newcombe) the Pies were all up the top of the list in terms of average speed in attack.

View attachment 2390616

When it comes to average speed in defence though, we had them on toast. (It's also amazing how many times Moore and Ward are mentioned in various top 5 stats in terms of endurance and speed. Absolute freaks.) So, it looks like our plan was to swarm in defence, and then analyse and move forward quickly but with an emphasis on control, changing angles and finding loose players with time and space to hit targets. This is borne out by the last two stats:

View attachment 2390623

View attachment 2390624

So to me, it looks like the plan was to force the aging Pies into a whole lot of useless and unrewarded running, whereas we pushed hard in defence but then waited for the right options in attack. Apologies for the stats spam, I just found it mega interesting.

Not so much running speed, but speed by hand and foot, speed of decision making, speed in terms of agility in small spaces.

Collingwood ran fast because they were chasing the ball...

 

[kazzooka]

Rough should say: "Mate, we will win the flag next this year. Do you want to be a part of it the sequel or not?"

 

[dmark]

Not so much running speed, but speed by hand and foot, speed of decision making, speed in terms of agility in small spaces.

Collingwood ran fast because they were chasing the ball...

Yes , agree, collingwood were chasing us all night

 

[dmark]

Bloody PA getting run down by Freo, never thought i would be cheering for PA and ken

 

[JZedd]

If you're in a car and you see a truck coming you give way... Talking to YOU Jeremy Howe.

Nice one mate

But that was seriously courageous by Newk. If he tucked his elbow in to protect himself he probably would've been suspended, with how the AFL are these days.
I also think ALL players should protect their opponents when it comes to head injuries.

 

[Bedi]

If you're in a car and you see a truck coming you give way... Talking to YOU Jeremy Howe.

Was like Leigh Matthews breaking the point post

 

[Jones Boy]

Loved watching Ward match him for pace and pressure or beat him in transition.

He kills sides when he has room to break and slice things up by foot.

This. I have always rated him. He will only get better . . .

 

[Leather Poisoning]

If you're in a car and you see a truck coming you give way... Talking to YOU Jeremy Howe.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

I think Howe really wanted to run through Newcombe and make a statement.

 

[Jones Boy]

Me too. When it’s broken down like that I realised as big as the loss of Will Day is it’s not insurmountable to us winning the flag if the buy in to the system is there. Sure, our midfield is not stacked with star power but with synergy built from the running half-backs and hard-working wings and half-forwards that game style from last night can beat anyone. And it’s awesome to watch!

To win the game in that manner will be a huge shot of confidence for the lads. It can be coached, it can be spoken about, analysed and reviewed to death about how they should play, but to execute it for the full 4 quarters is invaluable muscle memory!!

 

[Rowie6]

How good is it beat up on Collingwood and seeing all those empty seats in the last quarter.
Give me more of that!

 

[CHUBBSS]

I think Howe really wanted to run through Newcombe and make a statement.

The incoming Mr September had a word for him

 

[Charade19]

Very late to the party. I did not get to watch the game until today (Sunday). The last 7 minutes of the second quarter and third quarter were beautiful to watch. The way Collingwood's spirit broke was breathtaking. What a stellar performance. Very pleased.

 

[Buzz Hawk]

I was surprised Fly played both Long and Mitchell in the same side... When I saw they were both playing I thought that was good for us.
Not sure Collingwood can carry both, they are very one paced with average disposal skills.

 

[HairyO]

Yep, he has proven me wrong, i had some doubts on him and our decision to bring him back from Brisbane.

He is like a bloody good wine getting better with age, i might have a glass with my humble pie:

He reads the play better than anyone. Even when he isnt taking marks, he has led somewhere clever but just wasnt chosen by the midfielder with the ball.

Our forwards are working well together. They are spread out which exposes defences. Sam really could be onto something special.

 

[JZedd]

I was surprised Fly played both Long and Mitchell in the same side... When I saw they were both playing I thought that was good for us.
Not sure Collingwood can carry both, they are very one paced with average disposal skills.

Why do people call him Fly and not McFly???