List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[TheNewEnsign]

What’s the NFA mean ?

Not free agent

 

[littlecreatures]

What a time to be a Saints supporter. The morning after a close win feels like a loss and we’re all back to doomsday

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

We need to talk about the real big move to adelaide

Does Humphrey get one of the Malls Balls?

 

[SainterinSydney]

What a time to be a Saints supporter. The morning after a close win feels like a loss and we’re all back to doomsday

And the doom and gloom is based on literally nothing.

 

[phantom13]

Not at all, I just don't believe everything nobody's put on X. Happy to create a post on there about NVM staying if it will make you feel better ?

Somehow NAS wanting to go home is 'complete mismanagement' by the club. We should of repeatedly belittled the importance of family in his life to show him just how professional we are. shrug

Haven’t seen many suggest Nas homesickness is due to poor management by the club.

I’ve seen it suggested the negotiation management may have been butchered (which is pretty speculative) and if that’s the case then they should be sacked but that’s not the same thing.

 

[AFLOnline]

So we all expecting Nas to leave yeah?

 

[gringo2011]

My overanalysing of the interview is this... Decision has been made. If he doesn't sign next week personally I think we're cooked.

If he does nominate then we need to demand at least two current top ten picks. It is on the SA club to satisfy us. The trade itself will get very very ugly and unfortunately it will be very stressful for Nas.

I don't think there's as much in the interview pointing to him leaving as others say, but it does seem to me that something is happening. Our season ends in a week and I suspect we find out very soon.

It just goes off to mediation. Because he hasn't won heaps of awards and not in a finals team they'll sit his value at something like 1 top 10 pick and a future first of any kind. Probably has to be made up of players instead mostly and they aren't giving up stars. It will be a promising kid or 2 and a future pick. Our best chance at getting value would be moving that pick to GC for picks this year to get them out of paying true value for their academy kids.

Un-contracted players who nominate don't put you in the box seat.

 

[Mat Mann]

We need to talk about the real big move to adelaide

This is the StKilda version

 

[phantom13]

And the doom and gloom is based on literally nothing.

Nor is the optimism but you keep beating that drum

 

[gringo2011]

600k (plus incentives) isnt that much over afl average with the new cba.

But Windhager should be sent packing because he wants $800?

 

[LongParker]

So we all expecting Nas to leave yeah?

Are watching Port! NO

 

[The Jack]

Just got back from a long walk. Was listening to Carlton Port on MMM.

BT, Brayshaw, Smith and Kate McCarthey all doubled down on how confident Joey was yesterday. Almost as if he knew something.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Might have to pull out of the Aleer trade.
He got beaten by Jye Farrar today & GWS won.

 

[gringo2011]

I would be concerned if its a cent over that figure and I wouldn't want to pay more than a very late second rounder

He's not worth more than a third rounder other than our outrageous wage offer.

 

[gringo2011]

Leaky AF. Was terrifying every time it went down there. Camaniti bad, Stocker has struggled since coming back from injury. Tauru has gone very quiet - seems to have lost confidence. I support playing Trav down there in these dead rubbers, but he's clearly there to learn. If we're serious about having a crack next year, I think we need to retain Doogs, even with Leek coming in.

Aleer is worse than Caminiti at this stage. It's going to be a stressful 2026.

 

[g_TRAIN]

He's not worth more than a third rounder other than our outrageous wage offer.

Probably.

I was wanting to say 3rd rounder but figured GWS may push back hard on that given he was a first round pick.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Just got back from a long walk. Was listening to Carlton Port on MMM.

BT, Brayshaw, Smith and Kate McCarthey all doubled down on how confident Joey was yesterday. Almost as if he knew something.

There would be very few who know.

Id image Joey is one

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Haven’t seen many suggest Nas homesickness is due to poor management by the club.

I’ve seen it suggested the negotiation management may have been butchered (which is pretty speculative) and if that’s the case then they should be sacked but that’s not the same thing.

Interesting, so you believe if NAS was to leave his prime motivation for doing so was poor negotiation management and not a desire to be close to family ?

 

[SaintsofSteel]

Might have to pull out of the Aleer trade.
He got beaten by Jye Farrar today & GWS won.

I dont rate him at all, we would do better playing Shoenmaker in the role. Another Gubby Allan special, if Aleer is the best key defender he can find we are in serious trouble.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Interesting, so you believe if NAS was to leave his prime motivation for doing so was poor negotiation management and not a desire to be close to family ?

Wtf where did he say that.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

I dont rate him at all, we would do better playing Shoenmaker in the role. Another Gubby Allan special, if Aleer is the best key defender he can find we are in serious trouble.

Schoey not showing lockdown capabilities though.
Another Aaron Siposs, he is, I reckon.

 

[BrutThough]

Just watching sandy. I’m not sure I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

The bulk of our last 2 drafts played AFL last night.

Most of the players at Sandy today wont be on a list next year.

 

[ratboy94]

Apparently everyone is SA knows Nas is going to Port, and nobody at Saints or his manager know, if that’s true, massively poor form from the kid, and I doubt it’ll be a happy farewell if that’s the case

 

[BrutThough]

Apparently everyone is SA knows Nas is going to Port, and nobody at Saints or his manager know, if that’s true, massively poor form from the kid, and I doubt it’ll be a happy farewell if that’s the case

I doubt he's pulling a Ross Lyon on everyone. His manager would know.

 

[gringo2011]

Afl needs to have a very good look at compensation should Naz choose to leave. Right now they have a two tier comp, with the season done and dusted for atleast eight teams way too early. Interest drops off, so do ratings and attendances - people eco and go do something else with their time. It should set off alarm bells at HQ. Teams like saints need to be very well compensated, atleast to make the AFL remotely interesting . Right now we have clubs, "playing the kids" or playing for draft pics rather than focussed on winning. After all it's entertainment they are spruiking

Unfortunately we have pissed them off.