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Review R24: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. North Melbourne

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For those who don't get why the umpiring was the way it was... It was not about trying to get North a win, that's absurd, it was about stopping a 15 goal flogging. Why? How do you think Norths memberships and vibe (and therefore $) would've been in the off-season with a 15 or 20 goal flogging last game of the year versus a 13 point loss to the top team with a heap of players out?
I am sure it was not intentional from the umpires yesterday, I think sometimes they get caught up in the emotion of the game and can let this impact their decision making. Also with all the negative press we had this week with both the incorrect decisions against the Magpies and then the Rankine stuff, the umps would have had that in the back of their mind going into the game.
 
I am sure it was not intentional from the umpires yesterday, I think sometimes they get caught up in the emotion of the game and can let this impact their decision making. Also with all the negative press we had this week with both the incorrect decisions against the Magpies and then the Rankine stuff, the umps would have had that in the back of their mind going into the game.
But how does getting caught up in the emotion of it mean you can't see the ball is behind the goal post?
 

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GC were deliberately umpired out of that game.
As were we back in round one on the GC. Give us the four points we were robbed of in that game and GC are playing a dead rubber this week against easybeats Essendon.

Hardwick is in no position to whine about umpires. Absolutely zero sympathy from me.
 
I agree it was the wrong call, same as some of the others in the 4th quarter. But to suggest the AFL had instructed the umps to cheat is not realistic.
I just can't see any other reason for not making that call. I'm not saying it's deliberately against the Crows but there has to be an instruction to keep the game close.
 
Brodie has been good when needed to replace Laird this year. Don’t think we lose much if Laird is suspended for the 1st final.

He’s defending like every contest is his last and offering a good option on offensive plays. All his teammates seem to really get around him whenever he kicks a goal or has a good defensive play.
Smith for Laird is a downgrade even it it's minimal. Smith can bomb it 50m but Laird will be more serviceable in the tight finals pressure cooker. His quick hands and decision making is a bit better than Brodie's who does his best work in the open.
 
Smith for Laird is a downgrade even it it's minimal. Smith can bomb it 50m but Laird will be more serviceable in the tight finals pressure cooker. His quick hands and decision making is a bit better than Brodie's who does his best work in the open.
I think Smith is more suited to the fast play we should be bringing against Collingwood in 2 weeks.
 
I just can't see any other reason for not making that call. I'm not saying it's deliberately against the Crows but there has to be an instruction to keep the game close.
I'm sorry but that's conspiracy level thinking. Why would they care if the game is close or not? It's the same as saying the umps deliberately missed the couple of dodgy calls that went our way last week just to make sure we won.
 
And the footage clearly shows the umpire had a good view front on. Which means he did likely cheat. The AFL must be asked questions about this decision. It is not even amateur u12 level. He must be sacked immediately. Imagine a final being decided like that.
Said this before we had the 4 least capable umpires for the least consequential game of the season. They were not cheating, they are just no good. Heck the chick boundary umpire had to come in ten metres for throw ins. That’s how low on the barrel we scraped. Not a single chance any of those umpires do finals.
 
I just can't see any other reason for not making that call. I'm not saying it's deliberately against the Crows but there has to be an instruction to keep the game close.
That’s all sorts of cray cray sorry. How do they do it … email directive? Phone call from dill pickle personally? Message via carrier pidgeon that self destructs after reading aka inspector gadget style? The umpires are not all centrally located so we think on this inconsequential match the AFL convened a pow wow with the umpires just before the match to instruct them to keep it close
 
I'm sorry but that's conspiracy level thinking. Why would they care if the game is close or not? It's the same as saying the umps deliberately missed the couple of dodgy calls that went our way last week just to make sure we won.
It was leaked to Caro that sponsors started crying to AFL house that viewers were turning off games before 3/4 time and that they were not getting value for their sponsorship and it was a real concern for AFL house.

They had a rround table about it.

Now the barracking for the underdog and claims that a comeback is on the cards after the last 2 goals depite a 6 goal deficit remaining. I don't think its a directive to umpires, I think it's in the group-think echo chamber in AFL house enough that it is floating around in the heads of umps. Then there is a 50-50 call to the losing side, then its free kick. If the team has dominance, um wait.. nope not a free.


Along with Umps being Vic based and guzzling the "feel good stories" and "fairy tale outcomes" that are sickening ro non-Victorians.


It's most likely not corruption, just a subconscious bias.
 

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Re umpiring.... I was at the match and Keane protested to the umpires just before he got his mark disallowed in the final quater.... at the time it seemed to me like umps saying 'cop that' if you want to challenge us
 
It was leaked to Caro that sponsors started crying to AFL house that viewers were turning off games before 3/4 time and that they were not getting value for their sponsorship and it was a real concern for AFL house.

They had a rround table about it.

Now the barracking for the underdog and claims that a comeback is on the cards after the last 2 goals depite a 6 goal deficit remaining. I don't think its a directive to umpires, I think it's in the group-think echo chamber in AFL house enough that it is floating around in the heads of umps. Then there is a 50-50 call to the losing side, then its free kick. If the team has dominance, um wait.. nope not a free.


Along with Umps being Vic based and guzzling the "feel good stories" and "fairy tale outcomes" that are sickening ro non-Victorians.


It's most likely not corruption, just a subconscious bias.
This is also why the commentators always talk up the chance of upsets.

Keep viewers engaged.
 
It was leaked to Caro that sponsors started crying to AFL house that viewers were turning off games before 3/4 time and that they were not getting value for their sponsorship and it was a real concern for AFL house.

They had a rround table about it.

Now the barracking for the underdog and claims that a comeback is on the cards after the last 2 goals depite a 6 goal deficit remaining. I don't think its a directive to umpires, I think it's in the group-think echo chamber in AFL house enough that it is floating around in the heads of umps. Then there is a 50-50 call to the losing side, then its free kick. If the team has dominance, um wait.. nope not a free.


Along with Umps being Vic based and guzzling the "feel good stories" and "fairy tale outcomes" that are sickening ro non-Victorians.


It's most likely not corruption, just a subconscious bias.
Yeah that was my point originally, its a subconscious thing when a team is coming from behind and the crowd is getting louder. I am sure they are not consciously making incorrect calls to keep the game close.
 
The good.
Thilthorpes marking master-class.
Good individual games by Peatling, Berry, Dawson and Milera.

The bad.
Going into finals with the current form line against weak teams is concerning.
Our midfield is constantly getting smoked, and their defensive pressure is weak. To see stink average teams like WC and North get so close, and then Collingwood with twice as many forward entries does not bode well for finals. If we dont fix things quickly, and hit Brisbane or Geelong, we cpuld get absolutely smashed.
 

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The good.
Thilthorpes marking master-class.
Good individual games by Peatling, Berry, Dawson and Milera.

The bad.
Going into finals with the current form line against weak teams is concerning.
Our midfield is constantly getting smoked, and their defensive pressure is weak. To see stink average teams like WC and North get so close, and then Collingwood with twice as many forward entries does not bode well for finals. If we dont fix things quickly, and hit Brisbane or Geelong, we cpuld get absolutely smashed.
3.2G (should've been at least 4), 15 kicks, 12 marks, 6 hitouts.

What a gun.
 
As were we back in round one on the GC. Give us the four points we were robbed of in that game and GC are playing a dead rubber this week against easybeats Essendon.

Hardwick is in no position to whine about umpires. Absolutely zero sympathy from me.
Absolutely, the umpires gave us the Collingwood match to make up for the GC match earlier in the year. This risked Collingwood missing top 4 through no fault of their own so the AFL fixed the Port match against CG. The ladder is now a fair reflection of the teams performances but the AFL fixing matches hasn't been good for the AFC in the past (2012 prelim).
 
Finally saw the Keane rushed behind replay.

Not only was it clearly behind the post and should have been over turned into a point (first major stuff up that costs us 5 points), the commentators then proceed to say what a great call David Rodan, hope he is in the grand final because of calls like that.

I swear the AFL is just opposite land sometimes. They're so openly corrupt I'm actually sick of it.
They even wanted htb if the ball was deemed over the line.
 
But how does getting caught up in the emotion of it mean you can't see the ball is behind the goal post?
Has there ever been a score review that over turns an umpiring decision?

I.e if judged correctly as a point, it then brings up whether htb was called before or after Keane crossed the goal line.

If after as it looked on the replay, then the score review overturns the htb call.

Watching the game, I got the feeling they had no idea how to untangle all that. So made it umpires call.
 
That last quarter of umpiring is up there with 2015 Dogs at Etihad and 2012 Hawks Prelim as the most blatant incompetence (at best) have ever seen.

Clear rushed behinds paid as goals
Marks not paid to us
Then Non-marks immediately paid to them twice
Throws not paid to us
Holding the balls not paid (Dawsons tackle in middle) but paid against Milera who gets tackled immediately

Absolute joke
Don't worry.

We were at the game and were simply laughing along with Norf supporters around us who were amazed at their luck.

Some simply turned around to us and shrugged their shoulders as we were baying for blood.

The fix was well and truly on at 3 quarter time.

Get ready for more of the same in the finals. Wait till the first final fixture is announced. We will be rogered.

The AFL will well and truly demand their pound of flesh for us standing up to them and dragging them into the mud over Rankine.
 
The ball actually ended up in Curtin's hands, and Trembath just ripped the ball out and claimed the mark. Farcical.
Imagine getting first hands to it, bringing it down and holding it only to have someone else awarded the mark.
Wouldn’t happen….
 

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