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If we get Carlton's F2 back that would be a good deal. Their F3 might be tenable. Or this year's.
He was gone till Horse knocked it backCarlton are at the crossroads and just seem to be treading water. Voss is the coach most under pressure. If he’s moved on then their season is write off.
Not to mention any other player will realise they need to perform every year of their contract at our club. I’m curious to see how many players have an improvement on last year with some hard work.Looking at this all objectively we look better with Curnow in, Wilbur and Ollie out. It will free up cap and also create the space to make sure we have enough picks to get all of King, Carmichael and Kyle.
But, I guess im not as ruthless and transactional as some and im saddened by the prospect of moving the Doozy Bros on.
Good thing I'm not in charge.
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What deal? Nothing official yet is there?I love Curnow as a player but this is Crazy Vossy territory, the deal we are giving them is ridiculous and has the potential to set us back many years
Didn’t 10 years of Buddy with nothing to show for it teach the club anything?
Wouldn't Bowman be more of a similar player to Hayward. Harley was very complimentary about Bowman when they asked him to name a Swan to surprise. Im not sure what the actual question was but he did name him as perhaps ready to step up.Sucks to lose Hayward but hoping Dattoli with an injury free pre-season can step up and take his place.
It’s laughable when people keep repeating themselves thinking if they say it enough it may come true.Expect a final pitch from Geelong either tomorrow or Wednesday laughable if you think they will just give up when a player of Curnow quality wants them.
If you say that enough do you think people will stopIt’s laughable when people keep repeating themselves thinking if they say it enough it may come true.
What's a Ken BruceKen Bruce has gone Mad.![]()
I’d let him walk to PSD then. This actually does create a risk for a Collingwood, as if Buller comes to strong form he is a delisted free agent for life I believe? You don’t really want that for someone you think may have strong upside.Depends last reports were Collingwood are baulking at offering their 3rd round pick which is 61
That’s his thoughts not everyone’s. Doesn’t mean he is any more passionate than you or me. Sorry He is passed it. Constantly talks dribble during game commentary on Fox Footy.He can sound like a curmudgeon at times, but can't believe some people don't like Healy in the media.
Who else in the AFL media landscape would you hear talking as passionately about us as that?
Ha ha ! You might be a bit young. Was an ad a fair while ago. Look it up on YouTube.What's a Ken Bruce
I can confidently tell you both that O'Sullivan and Neale would absolutely NOT be for sale. They'd probably be two of Geelong's five or so untouchables.
They might but highly doubtful on this board. Fantasy fanboy land. Reality doesn’t live here.If you say that enough do you think people will stop
Pick 61 does have potential value, as indeed does their remaining pick 77.I’d let him walk to PSD then. This actually does create a risk for a Collingwood, as if Buller comes to strong form he is a delisted free agent for life I believe? You don’t really want that for someone you think may have strong upside.
They might but highly doubtful on this board. Fantasy fanboy land. Reality doesn’t live here.
I hope the deal involves 3 of the 4 bargaining chips with Hayward the ace up the sleeve in place of the future F1. If Carlton get greedy.
2 + 2 is overpaying imo.
I assume this is tactical leaving it so late to present an offer? Trying to make them rushed into accepting something by putting the offer in so late. If they reject it though we could **** ourselves over badly by not allowing ourselves time to find a plan B (I hope we have one lined up just in-case of a rejection).
If it's not tactical and we're genuinely still trying to find an offering, you have to question what the actual **** they've been doing for the last 2 months. Yeah it doesn't happen overnight but if we're still not ready 2 days out from deadline for something we knew about back in August, and had these conversations we needed to have with the affected players weeks ago, then seriously wtf.
Surely as a club have known what and who we were going to offer them for Charlie for weeks, ****ing surely?
Like I said, assuming it's all tactical (but yes at the same time, based on last offseason and the small pieces being reported, slightly skeptical too).
I think the biggest reason for having the conversations so late is to ensure that the players and their managers aren't able use the extra time to their advantage and consequently foil the Swans' bargaining position in any hypothetical trade. If the news had leaked months ago that we were probably keen on marching Florent on, then he might have sought out a different club and forced a trade like Curnow is now, and thus his value also drops significantly. It's brutal from the club, but it's also the surest way of getting us a deal. Hayward being packaged up with him is probably the only reason why Florent would agree to this trade, frankly.I assume this is tactical leaving it so late to present an offer? Trying to make them rushed into accepting something by putting the offer in so late. If they reject it though we could **** ourselves over badly by not allowing ourselves time to find a plan B (I hope we have one lined up just in-case of a rejection).
If it's not tactical and we're genuinely still trying to find an offering, you have to question what the actual **** they've been doing for the last 2 months. Yeah it doesn't happen overnight but if we're still not ready 2 days out from deadline for something we knew about back in August, and had these conversations we needed to have with the affected players weeks ago, then seriously wtf.
Surely as a club have known what and who we were going to offer them for Charlie for weeks, ****ing surely?
Like I said, assuming it's all tactical (but yes at the same time, based on last offseason and the small pieces being reported, slightly skeptical too).
He was linked to us in August so we atleast knew by thenDo you think Sydney knew he was flagging his intentions to leave back in May? extremely unlikely we were chasing McKay but he had a change of heart and decided to stay at Carlton.
Exactly this.In 2016 our big key forward did his ankle early in the game and it was downhill from there. In 2022 we lost Reid early and it was downhill from there. In 2024 we played a hobbled McDonald and it was downhill from there.
Big forwards can make a difference in GFs.

I willHa ha ! You might be a bit young. Was an ad a fair while ago. Look it up on YouTube.
Ken Bruce has gone mad.
Exactly this.
All those goals small forwards kick in GF from loose ball gets, who brings the ball to ground?
And who demands enough attention that smaller players have space?
In a GFs*, there are far fewer clean ball gets all over the park because the pressure is so high. We don’t suddenly say that players who base their games on pin point passes suddenly become useless. So why call out the players on the receiving end of these passes?
*GFs where Sydney are not the opponents![]()