F1 F1 2025 Season

[King Of Money]

Looks like Lando - along with a host of other drivers including Max - is sitting out FP1 this weekend.

Hopefully that puts him on the back foot for the weekend and Oscar can take advantage.

 

[jb04]

Looks like Lando - along with a host of other drivers including Max - is sitting out FP1 this weekend.

Hopefully that puts him on the back foot for the weekend and Oscar can take advantage.

Hopefully the extra testing does him well.

Just kinda sucks that Oscar will sit out FP1 in... Abu Dhabi.

 

[DonsRule]

I think the general though is FP1 in Mexico is kinda useless until the circuit rubbers in for the weekend. And why a lot of the top drives give it away as they are unlikely to lose a lot of ...as long as the rookies don't bin the car

 

[Not Important]

i can't help but feel if norris was leading the driver's championship mclaren would prioritise him.

 

[jb04]

i can't help but feel if norris was leading the driver's championship mclaren would prioritise him.

No shadow of a doubt, Oscar would be given the Bottas treatment, binning engines to see how far they can push them.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hackers-gained-access-to-fia-data-including-verstappens-passport/10770441/

Nobody is safe these days

 

[imadodgyumpire]

I wonder what happened behind closed doors at McLaren after the blown engine from Norris at Zandvoort?

Mechanical failures occur in racing. But when the World Championship in on the line and it's such a close contest, where Norris was behind and fell further back when Piastri hasn't had a failure, there's no way Norris' side, including his backers are going to put up with. " Oh well, that's racing."

Fun and exciting times.

 

[nikkig98]

The real villain this season has been Pirelli, 1 stops at COTA, Mediums that last more than 50% of the race, soft tyres that don't degrade, its absolute nonsense

 

[Sqotty from office works]

I wonder what happened behind closed doors at McLaren after the blown engine from Norris at Zandvoort?

Mechanical failures occur in racing. But when the World Championship in on the line and it's such a close contest, where Norris was behind and fell further back when Piastri hasn't had a failure, there's no way Norris' side, including his backers are going to put up with. " Oh well, that's racing."

Fun and exciting times.

Waiting for McLaren's new statement.
"We've decided to put all our efforts into the driver that's leading the WC and stop any chance of a pure McLaren driver accident "

 

[Jatz]

The real villain this season has been Pirelli, 1 stops at COTA, Mediums that last more than 50% of the race, soft tyres that don't degrade, its absolute nonsense

Yep, 100% agree on this. Give us tyres that cause strategies to become relevant again.

 

[Forward Press]

Yep, 100% agree on this. Give us tyres that cause strategies to become relevant again.

After the Baku 2021 debacle (seems so long ago now), I think Pirelli have become reluctant to make tyres that drop off significantly once they reach the end of their expected life.

I mean, I get it due to the safety concerns, but it makes for dull racing a lot of the time.

 

[Jatz]

After the Baku 2021 debacle (seems so long ago now), I think Pirelli have become reluctant to make tyres that drop off significantly once they reach the end of their expected life.

I mean, I get it due to the safety concerns, but it makes for dull racing a lot of the time.

One of the first races my (now) wife ever watched was the one at Silverstone where tyres starting popping on the last lap.

I had to explain to her 'it's not normally this exciting'...

 

[Forward Press]

One of the first races my (now) wife ever watched was the one at Silverstone where tyres starting popping on the last lap.

I had to explain to her 'it's not normally this exciting'...

I read accounts where people's first race was Abu Dhabi 2021.

As an avid F1 follower when it was broadcast late on Channel 9 with Darrell Eastlake and Alan Jones, I think it is the best race of all time.

 

[Vader]

I read accounts where people's first race was Abu Dhabi 2021.

As an avid F1 follower when it was broadcast late on Channel 9 with Darrell Eastlake and Alan Jones, I think it is the best race of all time.

The first F1 race I ever watched (on TV) was the 1985 Adelaide F1 GP.

I watched the Adelaide F1 GP every year, but didn't start watching other F1 races until 1992, while I was at Uni. I used to watch the European races late on Sunday nights, with one of my friends. That was back in the days of Jones & Eastlake.

 

[Forward Press]

The first F1 race I ever watched (on TV) was the 1985 Adelaide F1 GP.

I watched the Adelaide F1 GP every year, but didn't start watching other F1 races until 1992, while I was at Uni. I used to watch the European races late on Sunday nights, with one of my friends. That was back in the days of Jones & Eastlake.

Loved AJ's casual bigotry and Eastlake's complete lack of knowledge which he made up for with his enthusiasm.

I sort of miss those days but I understand F1 is now no longer a niche sport and I appreciate that it's now truly global. Happy for its success, back in the old days I'd mention Mika Hakkinen and many would go 'who?'

 

[Vader]

Loved AJ's casual bigotry and Eastlake's complete lack of knowledge which he made up for with his enthusiasm.

I sort of miss those days but I understand F1 is now no longer a niche sport and I appreciate that it's now truly global. Happy for its success, back in the old days I'd mention Mika Hakkinen and many would go 'who?'

Even back then, they weren't doing the commentary for the actual races. They threw to the ITV crew (Murray Walker) for the actual races. They spent what felt like an eternity doing the talking head thing, discussing the latest F1 news and qualifying results, for people like me who only ever tuned in for the races.

Come to think of it, I still only tune in for Qualifying and the Races. I never bother with the FP sessions, or the support categories, and I don't watch the early morning races (e.g. night races in the Middle East and day races in the Americas). I do, however, keep much more up to date with the F1 news - something which has changed dramatically due to the arrival of the internet and WWW.

** It was a sad, sad day when Murray Walker passed away. He remains without a shadow of a doubt the best F1 commentator of all time. Yes, he made some epic blunders, and Walker quotes will always provide a laugh, but he remains the GOAT in my eyes.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

Even back then, they weren't doing the commentary for the actual races. They threw to the ITV crew (Murray Walker) for the actual races. They spent what felt like an eternity doing the talking head thing, discussing the latest F1 news and qualifying results, for people like me who only ever tuned in for the races.

Come to think of it, I still only tune in for Qualifying and the Races. I never bother with the FP sessions, or the support categories, and I don't watch the early morning races (e.g. night races in the Middle East and day races in the Americas). I do, however, keep much more up to date with the F1 news - something which has changed dramatically due to the arrival of the internet and WWW.

** It was a sad, sad day when Murray Walker passed away. He remains without a shadow of a doubt the best F1 commentator of all time. Yes, he made some epic blunders, and Walker quotes will always provide a laugh, but he remains the GOAT in my eyes.

I feel like I heard every one of these "live" (such as AJ and Big Daz were "live" in the late 80s).

“Anything can happen in Formula 1, and it usually does.”
“Andrea de Cesaris…the man who has won more Grands Prix than anyone else without actually winning one of them.”

“Unless I’m very much mistaken – and I am very much mistaken!”
“The lead car is unique, except for the one behind it which is identical.”
“And now excuse me while I interrupt myself!”
“I imagine the conditions in those cars are totally unimaginable.”
"This has been a great season for Nelson Piquet, as he is now known, and always has been.”

...and some clearly showing the depth of his understanding of motor racing.

“And this will be Williams’ first win, since last time a Williams won!”
“With half the race gone, there is half the race still to go.”
“It’s raining and the track is wet.”
“This is an interesting circuit because it has inclines, and not just up, but down as well.”

 

[Neale4brownlow]

Yep, 100% agree on this. Give us tyres that cause strategies to become relevant again.

Catch 22.
If they give tyres that drop off and wear then drivers/teams just drive accordingly and drop the speed down to a snails pace. No one pushes knowing that pushing will cost them an extra stop. And every GP would be Monaco 2.0

Or they go too far the other way and 1 set could get through a whole race.

As always its a symptom of it being difficult to overtake. There's no reward for pushing and then taking an extra stop if you're stuck in a DRS train.

Hopefully the new rules improve things a bit.

 

[nikkig98]

Catch 22.
If they give tyres that drop off and wear then drivers/teams just drive accordingly and drop the speed down to a snails pace. No one pushes knowing that pushing will cost them an extra stop. And every GP would be Monaco 2.0

Or they go too far the other way and 1 set could get through a whole race.

As always its a symptom of it being difficult to overtake. There's no reward for pushing and then taking an extra stop if you're stuck in a DRS train.

Hopefully the new rules improve things a bit.

Ehh gotta disagree there, there's zero incentive for the lower teams to drive slowly and if the top teams would? Monaco only happens because the track is too small, DRS trains only happen at selected circuits.

 

[Vader]

What you really want is a tyre that degrades steadily over time/distance, but not falling off a cliff until it reaches the end of life. I would suggest that the tyre should degrade to the tune of 2 seconds of lap time, over the course of its life, before producing lap times of 3-4 seconds down when they really fall off the cliff.

You don't want tyres that don't degrade enough, or tyres that fall off the cliff too early.

A soft tyre should last ~20-25% of the race distance, before they fall off the cliff. Mediums should last ~35-40% and Hards 55-60%.

They need to degrade enough that there are significant gains to be made in pitting for new boots (effectively making the option of a 2 or 3 stop race viable once again), but not so much that drivers are forced to go slow in order to prolong their tyre life.

The current tyres don't degrade anywhere near enough, and are often almost as good when they come off as when they went on.

 

[Bradesmaen]

What you really want is a tyre that degrades steadily over time/distance, but not falling off a cliff until it reaches the end of life. I would suggest that the tyre should degrade to the tune of 2 seconds of lap time, over the course of its life, before producing lap times of 3-4 seconds down when they really fall off the cliff.

You don't want tyres that don't degrade enough, or tyres that fall off the cliff too early.

A soft tyre should last ~20-25% of the race distance, before they fall off the cliff. Mediums should last ~35-40% and Hards 55-60%.

They need to degrade enough that there are significant gains to be made in pitting for new boots (effectively making the option of a 2 or 3 stop race viable once again), but not so much that drivers are forced to go slow in order to prolong their tyre life.

The current tyres don't degrade anywhere near enough, and are often almost as good when they come off as when they went on.

Either that or they just don't work. Somehow pirelli keep getting the gig

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Loved AJ's casual bigotry and Eastlake's complete lack of knowledge which he made up for with his enthusiasm.

I sort of miss those days but I understand F1 is now no longer a niche sport and I appreciate that it's now truly global. Happy for its success, back in the old days I'd mention Mika Hakkinen and many would go 'who?'

Wasn't he the rally driver?

 

[Vader]

Wasn't he the rally driver?

That would be Tommi Makinen

 

[Bedi]

The first F1 race I ever watched (on TV) was the 1985 Adelaide F1 GP.

I watched the Adelaide F1 GP every year, but didn't start watching other F1 races until 1992, while I was at Uni. I used to watch the European races late on Sunday nights, with one of my friends. That was back in the days of Jones & Eastlake.

Bit like watching the cricket for an England Ashes series, there was something very comforting and cosy about tuning in those two late Sun night before they made the live cross to Murray Walker and James Hunt. Though as a kid i watched most from VHS recording – one hour before school and then the rest later the next night. No chance of spoilers at school (no one gave a shit about it back then) but just had to avoid the sport on the news the next night.

 

[Bradesmaen]

That would be Tommi Makinen

The man who made everyone want a Lancer Evo.