List Mgmt. End of season 2021 Delistings.

[feelinfeline]

• Zuthrie is a 50/50, he's 23 now and still very fringe

I'd be staggered if Zuthrie doesn't get at least another year based on his prelim final alone.

 

[Poetic Justice]

I'd be staggered if Zuthrie doesn't get at least another year based on his prelim final alone.

Zuth would have to be a fair way over the 50/50 fence, on the right side

 

[Spearman]

Harvey and Scarlett in the coaches box would be interesting

I had a similar thought at the suggestion.

 

[Drunkcat]

After reading his interview in the addy today i'm kind of glad he's leaving. He's done an amazing job turning this club around, but some of his comments are head in the sand and completely contradictory to things he said when he started here. One quote from back then "we were great at being average". Well f me, isn't that what we have become now?

And then he talks about not bottoming out and still looking for free agents. Seemingly very happy just treading water. That approach has got us nowhere.

And I say that will full respect for him ,as we probably would have gone the way of fitzroy without him. But his time has passed now I think.

Everything has a used by date at a football club you can not go stale, you just have to make change

 

[thejester]

It's likely that Cam T. will emerge in years to come; Buckenara rated him at 30.

That says a lot more about the value of pre-draft media hype than it does Taheny. It's unfortunate that the two seasons he had were severely disrupted but he didn't do much to suggest he had a future when he was able to play.

 

[feelinfeline]

That says a lot more about the value of pre-draft media hype than it does Taheny. It's unfortunate that the two seasons he had were severely disrupted but he didn't do much to suggest he had a future when he was able to play.

Drafting is a very inexact science. Drafting 18-year-olds from interstate, who have to leave their family and friend networks, is close to a lottery. Only a small minority make it, as we've seen many times. Injuries obviously don't help, nor do two years of COVID interruptions and relocations.

 

[Vdubs]

I'm not sure we could afford the asking price - either in terms of his reported asking price, with numbers thrown around of like $700k, though that may be media speculation

But also in terms of Fremantle's trade price - with Carlton the suggestions are it'll be pick 6 at a minimum, while last week there was some mentions that Melbourne had thrown their hat in the ring for this services with that starting point for negotiations being a Luke Jackson

In serious terms, what would we have to offer?

Clark, Narkle, Picks...

 

[Sire of Claude]

All too true. It's sad that our draft position denied us access to the better Falcons who are starring all over the competition at the moment.

Further, we went for some of the wrong trades; i don't know if they were available to us but Seedsman, Nic Newman

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Nic Newman

Age

31

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

and numerous others have done very well at their clubs, though they were not big names at the time. More recently Hind. There are several I've noted over the journey.

 

[crows dude]

Wow shocked of the delisting of Taheny. He was a great kid at Norwood. Real talent. Hope we get him back here at Norwood if not the crows.

 

[BORIS332]

I'd be staggered if Zuthrie doesn't get at least another year based on his prelim final alone.

I do like him, but he's going into his fifth season now.

 

[feelinfeline]

I do like him, but he's going into his fifth season now.

No worries. I definitely had my doubts earlier in the season but he made significant improvement in his last few games.

 

[Kitcat]

No worries. I definitely had my doubts earlier in the season but he made significant improvement in his last few games.

And with an old list, why would we get rid of a young player who may only end up being a backup defender, but has improved steadily over the years?

 

[Pollywaffle]

After reading his interview in the addy today i'm kind of glad he's leaving. He's done an amazing job turning this club around, but some of his comments are head in the sand and completely contradictory to things he said when he started here. One quote from back then "we were great at being average". Well f me, isn't that what we have become now?
And then he talks about not bottoming out and still looking for free agents. Seemingly very happy just treading water. That approach has got us nowhere.
And I say that will full respect for him ,as we probably would have gone the way of fitzroy without him. But his time has passed now I think.

Corporate BS..
judging us as if we are just a business..

 

[Drunkcat]

I do like him, but he's going into his fifth season now.

He started in 2017 so next year will be 6th season

 

[Whit3y]

Even with all of these gone, we still have 15 players on our list that are 24 and under, with seven of those best 22, so it's not exactly dire straits.

I am struggling to find the seven, who are they?

 

[iameviljez]

And Joel Corey

What’s the basis for this?

 

[Chinacats]

Can't we tap Higgins on the shoulder and do a Jack Steven

9

Jack Steven

Age

34

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

job there? Only Hendo (maybe) & Jenkins from the old brigade to go? need a couple of more IMO.

 

[cats_09]

I am struggling to find the seven, who are they?

Guessing it includes:
Miers, Henry & Close
Holmes, Simpson, Zuth & Ratugolea sitting on the fringe, though I'd be happy to see Holmes in the side from round 1

That equals 7 but not sure all are best 22, especially from the second group

 

[Strange Cat]

What’s the basis for this?

They were all told to retire or leave because of their age/form, and yet we are still recruiting 30 years olds and keep playing those past the same age most of these players were let go at

 

[iameviljez]

They were all told to retire or leave because of their age/form, and yet we are still recruiting 30 years olds and keep playing those past the same age most of these players were let go at

I think you’re extrapolating big time. Corey and Bartel were completely out of juice by the time they were walked, for a start.

 

[Strange Cat]

I think you’re extrapolating big time. Corey and Bartel were completely out of juice by the time they were walked, for a start.

Sounds familiar to a few of our older players

 

[iameviljez]

Sounds familiar to a few of our older players

In fairness, the only one to really impress after leaving was SJ in his first year post Geelong. That said, I think the pressure of having to prove himself again was a big part of that.

 

[iameviljez]

Can't we tap Higgins on the shoulder and do a Jack Steven job there? Only Hendo (maybe) & Jenkins from the old brigade to go? need a couple of more IMO.

… … Selwood.

 

[Strange Cat]

In fairness, the only one to really impress after leaving was SJ in his first year post Geelong. That said, I think the pressure of having to prove himself again was a big part of that.

We pushed Chappy, Bartel, Mooney , milburn et al because of their age profile and form and now we recruit players well past their best and in their 30’s

I don’t blame them for holding a grudge, I’m certainly not impressed with the hypocrisy of the club recruiting

 

[iameviljez]

We pushed Chappy, Bartel, Mooney , milburn et al because of their age profile and form and now we recruit players well past their best and in their 30’s

I don’t blame them for holding a grudge, I’m certainly not impressed with the hypocrisy of the club recruiting

You are talking about events five years apart