Mate, I'm all for having positivity for the future, but if you're expecting Hewett and Long to match the output of Rozee and Butters then you're way too optimistic. Reid v JHF, well that might be one to watch moving forward.
Champion as an NGA doesn't make any sense either, if he's going to be...
Again, not having a go, but that list is largely unproven. Harley Reid is probably a sure thing to be a star, but the rest would need to improve substantially to reach the levels of Rozee, Butters, Rachele, Rankine etc.
The strategy is the right one, but it's way too early to claim the Eagles...
North are going the full teardown rebuild, trying to maximize the top end talent through the draft. Primarily focused on drafting midfield and non-KPP types, then attempting to target KPPs through trading (admittedly with limited success). But if you're just mentioning North to discredit my...
That's kinda backwards logic though. You can't apply pre-draft speculation to pick value after the fact.
Besides, WC would've definitely taken McKercher at pick 2 regardless, and I don't think I ever saw a trade that included your Hall and Johnston picks going back to North.
Nah, just pointing out that it's too early to claim WCE are flush with quality. There's still a few lean years ahead for sure.
S*** teams can usually only add top shelf talent through the draft, don't ditch your number 1 pick for "quantity".
Did you read the original post I was quoting? It argued that WCE were going for a quality over quantity rebuild, then listed a number of speculative late round or MSD players, which is the absolute opposite mentality.
Kinda weird to quote someone's post without actually figuring out the context.
Obviously development is key, but you can't with a straight face list names like Maric, Edwards, Bugriel (lol), Bazzo and Barnett as an argument that you've got "quality" on the list.
Every one of those players is speculative at best.
Quality not quantity, yet you're naming a bunch of non 1st round picks as replacements for your aging stalwarts. Plus your trade/FA period picked up some barely best 22 players at other clubs like Brockman and Flynn.
I think you're wildly overestimating your current list if you think you're...
No choice? We have 3x late 1st round draft picks to target list needs like KPD and Small Forwards.
Always pick best player available in the top end of the draft.
I guarantee the clowns saying North must draft Sanders because we applied for NGA access will be the same posters that would immediately rip on North for taking another inside mid.
It's such an idiotic argument anyway, North will draft what's best for the team moving forward.
The most definite part in his article was that there is zero chance that North part with picks 2 + 3 for pick 1.
I don't think WC have given a price for pick 1, preferring to see how much other teams would offer, but North have essentially said that 2 + 2× late 1sts for 1 + 23 is as much as...
What are you talking about? I never said that O'Brien SHOULD do that. I said that WCE are obviously open to trading the pick, because they haven't come out and said they won't trade pick 1. Bloody hell it's just about impossible to have a half sensible conversation on here.
I highly doubt Rawlings will offer anything close to 2 + 3 or F1.
Its really weird that Eagles fans think a professional list manager will panic and wildly overpay for pick 1. Living in fantasy land tbh.
Far more likely that we drop 23 coming back from the previous offer, anything more and its...
The push is from the media, in both Vic and WA, as it's widely acknowledged that WCE need as much talent as possible, they are more than 1 player away from completing the rebuild.
The Eagles could literally come out tomorrow and say pick 1 is not for sale and we are taking Reid, ending all...
Ah sure, I bet you did mate. Either way, it's super lazy analysis. There's multiple avenues to pick up players outside of the ND, including the MSD, DFA and trading, all of which have been used to address KPPs in recent years.
Regardless North need KPPs that's for sure, but to indicate that WCE...
Probably better off just copying and pasting that Brisbane blokes entire post here and passing it off as your own analysis at this point.
Or maybe just discuss hypotheticals about pick 1 rather than throwing out weird potshots at North.
Weird to discredit Logue because he's injured.
From your list provided, only Allen and Barrass can be classified as decent talls that are relevant to a rebuild (even then, a 28 uear old Barrass is a bit of a stretch). McGovern and Darling will be gone soon and B Williams has been average...
Dude, Larkey and Logue are less than 1 year older than Allen and are heads and shoulders above every other WCE tall named here.
Not to say North have an abundance of talls, but bragging about anyone on the Eagles list apart from Allen is a bit of a laugh.
We already have 5 first round picks though. I'm not knocking back a fair trade of pick 42, it's a straight up bad trade. I'm a bit confused by your logic, of course pick 11 is better than 15, but pick 3 is better than pick 6 as well.
And you misread my post, I disagree with the assumption that...
Yeah, happy to agree to disagree tbh. It seems that general consensus in here is picks 2-9 are even, but I strongly disagree. McKercher is clear at #2 after Reid/Walter are 1A/1B.
Pick 3 gets whoever has it first choice from that 2nd tier of Curtin, Watson, Duursma, Sanders etc. Personally i...
I don't think North should be relying on Melbourne either, but the idea that North will trade pick 3 for unders to Melbourne just to appease WC in a trade for Reid is madness.
Best case is just take 2, 3, 15, 17, 18 to the draft and pick up a ton of young talent anyway.
Where have you pulled 42 from? This is the initial proposal and response I'm referring to.
Regardless, late round picks in a shallow draft aren't going to help Melbourne move up to 3.
Counterpoint, your proposal has North giving up more value (points wise) to Melbourne to help them move up the draft.
In a draft where the Dees and Dogs have already shown that you need to pay overs to move up, I don't see any reason why North would give a huge discount just to help Melbourne...
So North move back 3 spots in the pointy end of the 1st round for a 4 spot upgrade in the back end of the 1st round?
That's an insanely bad trade for North.
Dude, you obviously know nothing about North's situation off field if you think the assistance package has anything to do with our sustainability as a club.
Very few North fans think WCE will pick Curtin with pick 1. Every board has posters with overly biased opinions.
The WCE board has multiple posters saying that they wouldn't take 2+3 for 1, which is ridiculous. Kinda stupid to paint an entire fanbase with the same brush as the most insane posters.
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