2012 Draft Discussion

[JasRulz63]

Just on the Voss broken leg, he gave some advice to Broncos' Yow Yeh;

"He'll be up and about in 12 months or so but his leg won't feel 100 per cent then," Voss said.
"In reality, it will be 18 months before it is fully functioning. It's a horror injury, no doubt.
"The best thing Jharal can do is be patient. He'll be fine once he gets back out on the field but he will be tested before then," Voss said.
"If you push it too hard during your rehab, your leg will let you know and in a bad way too. That can be very frustrating. He will have his highs and lows and he'll learn a lot about himself along the way.
"There is a fair bit of one step forward and two steps back. You think you are OK and making progress but then you hit a wall.
"He seems like a fairly strong character so this will be a small blip on the radar in the big scheme of things for him."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...orror-road-ahead/story-e6frep5x-1226315382029

Very much a mental thing too. The interviews are going to be important to see if Stringer has the strength in character to overcome it.

 

[Grimreepah]

Now that Hogan is officially out of the picture, I'm going to start focussing on Stringer a bit more. Not that it means anything, but the circumstances are similar to Henderson in the build up to the 2007 draft.

 

[son of bangas]

I still think use pick 8 on SHAW< HOWEVER would be stoked if we got stringer at pick 8, and I think it is a very good chance. I could be wrong BUT i dont him see him being our foward line answer though, he seems to have the ability to go foward and create a marking target, but i cant see him as a genuine full time foward.
he would also add a bit of grunt to our midfeild unit, which i think there missing just at the moment

 

[whatboutbob]

Very much a mental thing too. The interviews are going to be important to see if Stringer has the strength in character to overcome it.

Interesting interview with Stringer in April this year about his road back from the broken leg.

 

[POBT]

Just on the Voss broken leg, he gave some advice to Broncos' Yow Yeh;

This interview with Yow Yeh talks about his acceptance of a loss of speed and jumping ability as a result of his breaks and the need to find new ways of playing.

From what I've heard, Yow Yeh's leg break is one of the worst seen in professional footy in Australia so it is definitely not fair to draw conclusions about Stringer based on Yow Yeh's experience.

FWIW, I don't think Voss was ever quite the same athlete as what he was before his leg injury. The 1996 Voss was the total package - quick, athletic, great leap, could run all day, tough as boots and he could play just a bit. However, the 1999-2003 Voss was probably a better footballer as his hardness, vision, skills and smarts, already elite, only improved as he grew older.

 

[Hellgood]

Sorry Judge, I didn't mean to be so general - I meant "some" broken legs are difficult to recover from. In addition to the guys you named, I'm thinking the likes of Nathan Brown, Dale Morris are other guys who have struggled to return to their best and others like Barlow have taken the long route in terms of complete recovery.

But yeah, plenty of guys also come back as good as new. I mean, Pendlebury technically broke his leg and was back within a month or so.

Yeah on the scale of broken legs in footy, his was one of the worser cases. Not a pleasant image, so for those who don'twant to see this stuff, don't open the spoiler, but it shows how impressive his comeback this season has been after this.

Spoiler

 

[Bucking Beads]

Yow Yeh pretty much snapped his foot off his leg if that makes sense. The break was really low.

 

[whatboutbob]

Yeah on the scale of broken legs in footy, his was one of the worser cases. Not a pleasant image, so for those who don'twant to see this stuff, don't open the spoiler, but it shows how impressive his comeback this season has been after this.

I regret curiosity getting the better of me.

 

[ZoBlitz]

FWIW, I don't think Voss was ever quite the same athlete as what he was before his leg injury. The 1996 Voss was the total package - quick, athletic, great leap, could run all day, tough as boots and he could play just a bit. However, the 1999-2003 Voss was probably a better footballer as his hardness, vision, skills and smarts, already elite, only improved as he grew older.

Agreed. Would have won a few Brownlows you would have thought.

 

[pulpdriver]

Yeah on the scale of broken legs in footy, his was one of the worser cases. Not a pleasant image, so for those who don'twant to see this stuff, don't open the spoiler, but it shows how impressive his comeback this season has been after this.

Spoiler

 

[Fatcat08]

I regret curiosity getting the better of me.

me too, regretting it now.

 

[pulpdriver]

For anyone who's seen a lot of him, what aspects of Stringer's game have changed since he's returned from the break?

 

[BlairForceOne]

The fact that there was a spoiler tag on Bigfooty, which I didn't know existed, got me excited so I clicked on it and immediately regretted my decision.

 

[whatboutbob]

I wonder if...

Spoiler

...BlairForceOne will come back for more...

 

[theteamtobeat]

There might be a chance that Stringer will be avaliable at our pick 23.

 

[Quigley]

For anyone who's seen a lot of him, what aspects of Stringer's game have changed since he's returned from the break?

His lateral movement has been the slowest to come back I think. His agility and ability to change direction have made him look very cumbersome at times.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Remember Vossy said he doesn't expect first year draftees to play in their first year. Stringer could be recruited and eased into it after getting his injuries sorted out.

 

[BlairForceOne]

I wonder if...

Spoiler

...BlairForceOne will come back for more...

Haha, damn it, you got me. It took me a while to convince myself to open that though.

 

[chopperduck]

Will be interesting to see if someone like Stringer is on our radar. We've shown we aren't shy about getting players with injury problems if we think there is some value. We need some more midfield depth, as well as some more fire power up forward, which Stringer gives. He is around that 190cm mark which our recruiters have also really liked recently.

For me, i think if Karni ended up going, the chances of us picking up a Stringer would significantly increase.

 

[pulpdriver]

His lateral movement has been the slowest to come back I think. His agility and ability to change direction have made him look very cumbersome at times.

Thanks Quigs, do you think he'd be more valuable as a midfielder or forward at AFL level?

 

[luthor]

Thanks a lot for nothing

That's worse than the spoiler.

 

[Grimreepah]

Reading Stringer's draft thread has left me with the impression that he is rated higher than I previously thought. There are some varying opinions on him, but we seem to be fairly central in the range of where he is expected to be drafted. Seems to tick a lot of boxes:

a) I can picture Voss believing you shouldn't get sucked in on current form, and would be confident he can get back to (or at least close to) his best in time. I also think he would be confident in knowing how to best manage him as he progresses from the injury.
b) Versatile - both Voss and Kerr are big on this.
c) Strong body - Voss is big on this.
c) Fits needs - Marking forward or clearance specialist.
d) Reportedly has very strong leadership abilities (thus reducing the go home factor).
e) Upside is enormous if he can get his agility back. Our list at the moment has a lot of good promising players, but lack genuine stars. This is a bit speculative, but it may be thought that we can afford to take a risk on someone with genuine star potential.

There are some similarities with Rockliff, who played as a midfielder at 15, but then had a bad injury, wasn't able to do a preseason and was then shifted forward to compensate for a lack of fitness.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I'd take Stringer with 8.

 

[blueiris]

I have heard that, Bulldogs coach McCartney loves stringer, and could take him at six, so at 8 wouldn't be that bad, of a player for us. But think the Bulldogs will take him before we get a look in.

 

[chopperduck]

Clubs do get wind of players other clubs are interested in, which can force their hand. We took Redden earlier than we planned because we found out heading into the draft the Crows were getting hot on him.