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List Mgmt. 2016 Potential Draft Picks

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Adz2332 said:
battle is more of an inbetweener tho... more of a palmer?
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He's taller than Palmer. He's 192cm, which is the same height as Matthew Pavlich, Jake Stringer & taller than Jack Darling, Mitch McGovern. I think sometimes people get a bit too fixated on cm as opposed to watching players play. Jack Darling is 191cm but plays like any other CHF 5-10cm taller than him.

Battle has the size and fitness to play as that sort of lead up half forward. If he can use his fitness more to his advantage, he'll be a very dangerous player.
 
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Macca19 said:
He's taller than Palmer. He's 192cm, which is the same height as Matthew Pavlich, Jake Stringer & taller than Jack Darling, Mitch McGovern. I think sometimes people get a bit too fixated on cm as opposed to watching players play. Jack Darling is 191cm but plays like any other CHF 5-10cm taller than him.

Battle has the size and fitness to play as that sort of lead up half forward. If he can use his fitness more to his advantage, he'll be a very dangerous player.
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Would we then even do a harvey / shaw draft if we have 6 and 9 and battle is there at 9 and marshell at 6?
 

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Adz2332 said:
battle is more of an inbetweener tho... more of a palmer?
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Macca19 said:
He's taller than Palmer. He's 192cm, which is the same height as Matthew Pavlich, Jake Stringer & taller than Jack Darling, Mitch McGovern. I think sometimes people get a bit too fixated on cm as opposed to watching players play. Jack Darling is 191cm but plays like any other CHF 5-10cm taller than him.

Battle has the size and fitness to play as that sort of lead up half forward. If he can use his fitness more to his advantage, he'll be a very dangerous player.
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I only saw battle in one or two champs games and a few highlights videos but he plays as a genuine key forward , whereas someone like palmer does not at all.

Battles height at 192 would suit him to playing next to a bigger forward so battle could play his game more and not have defenders jumping over him as that is where his height will count against him in the forward line. Doesn't look like a forward who will jump in packs and take the ball at its highest point, more a one on one forward. Battle also has a big solid chest and is a big lad. Needs to get more involved in play to impact more but I think he could do that at the next level.
 
Macca19 said:
He's taller than Palmer. He's 192cm, which is the same height as Matthew Pavlich, Jake Stringer & taller than Jack Darling, Mitch McGovern. I think sometimes people get a bit too fixated on cm as opposed to watching players play. Jack Darling is 191cm but plays like any other CHF 5-10cm taller than him.

Battle has the size and fitness to play as that sort of lead up half forward. If he can use his fitness more to his advantage, he'll be a very dangerous player.
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Note also that Josh Battle was just named at CHF in this years TAC Cup team of the year.

Patrick Kerr was named at full forward.
 
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If we have two picks in the ten. Would rather grab best available with the first two, then grab key position forwards later
 
I'm not even sure if another top 10 pick is what we want this year. A couple of picks in the teens could be more worthwhile for us.

I'm pretty damn keen on Venables, and I think its pretty realistic to expect him to be there at our first pick of 9. The pace to capitalise on corridor turnovers, breakout option around stoppage, and with some more experience looks like he could get back to defensively sweep well enough too.

I was never a huge fan of Scharenberg - as I didn't see that X-factor - but he's been damn consistent with his efforts and ball winning which is exactly what we need in our midfield as support. Not a superstar, but someone who will do the job week in week out. Not generally a threat up forward, but - if he can translate his game to AFL quickly enough - should be what we wanted Ah Chee to be in the midfield.

After that I'd probably like to see us grab either Kerr or Battle, ideally Battle. Some people have Battle going around pick 20 odd, but I would be pretty surprised if he didn't go in the teens. Either way we badly need a developing KPF on our list now and I'd be somewhat appalled if we passed on all 3 of the big name KPFs in this draft. I personally think that versatility of Battle roaming up the ground is what we need more for how we play and also to what would help Dixon up forward the most, but Kerr is certainly a nice prospect too.

Ideally these would be topped up by a trade for a Tim O'Brien, Schoenmakers, maybe even Kersten.
 
Jack Grange said:
Macca could Battle push into the midfield?
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He's certainly got the tank to, on paper, have the potential to play through the midfield. He had the best beep test of all the AIS academy kids at the start of the year. He hasn't yet shown on field that he has that potential though. Thats the thing thats holding him back. Aggressive, good tank, good pace, accurate kick, strong grab, but he needs to be doing a Stringer type role as opposed to more of a lead/mark type role.
 
strath39 said:
If we have two picks in the ten. Would rather grab best available with the first two, then grab key position forwards later
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Key Forward is a massive positional need for us at the moment and quite simply it cannot be ignored.

In fact our need is so dire that our threads are overflowing with ppl screaming that we chase any spud or list clogger that we can to make up the numbers and then hope they come good. It's not the way you build a premiership team.

IMO we need some exciting top end key position talent in the stables far more than we need midfielders this year.

And history tells us that nearly all of the successful big name key forwards come from high picks. There are some exceptions of course but those are few and far between.

It's time that we take a gamble on one. (If not two )
 
ClickBOOM1870 said:
And history tells us that nearly all of the successful big name key forwards come from high picks. There are some exceptions of course but those are few and far between.
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There is some truth in this, but it's not as clear cut as people think
Tom Hawkins (pick 41, F/S), Gunston (29), Membrey (46), Ben Brown (47), Tippett (32), Jenkins (Rookie draft).
Yeah, the superstars are generally the higher draft picks but the same goes for midfielders - it's just that there's more of them so more chance for the lower draft picks to shine. There are enough good finds in the middle of the draft for KPFs.
 

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Chrizzt said:
There is some truth in this, but it's not as clear cut as people think
Tom Hawkins (pick 41, F/S), Gunston (29), Membrey (46), Ben Brown (47), Tippett (32), Jenkins (Rookie draft).
Yeah, the superstars are generally the higher draft picks but the same goes for midfielders - it's just that there's more of them so more chance for the lower draft picks to shine. There are enough good finds in the middle of the draft for KPFs.
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Add to that Jack Darling (26), Brendan Fevola (38), Jack Redpath, Steeart Crameri (both Rookies) and Drew Petrie (23)

However, think Hawkins would have definitely gone first round if it weren't for F/S.
 
Doctor Feel said:
Dude. They even all had the same beady dark eyes.
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Ha. I have an female friend of Italian heritage who is pretty much Montagna with boobs.
 
Macca19 said:
He's taller than Palmer. He's 192cm, which is the same height as Matthew Pavlich, Jake Stringer & taller than Jack Darling, Mitch McGovern. I think sometimes people get a bit too fixated on cm as opposed to watching players play. Jack Darling is 191cm but plays like any other CHF 5-10cm taller than him.

Battle has the size and fitness to play as that sort of lead up half forward. If he can use his fitness more to his advantage, he'll be a very dangerous player.
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So much this. Would love to see a bit more pushback on this point on the podcast however..
 

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Scharenberg is a complete player imo. Been performing at the top of his age group for a number of years and it mystifies me why he isn't rated more highly by the so called draft experts who get airtime at this time of year.

Would not be surprised if he is called out by us at 9. Btw 9 could turn into 11 or 12 with Bowes, Perryman and some other academy picks expected to go high. It all depends on who pulls the trigger on them.
 
shewho said:
Scharenberg is a complete player imo. Been performing at the top of his age group for a number of years and it mystifies me why he isn't rated more highly by the so called draft experts who get airtime at this time of year.

Would not be surprised if he is called out by us at 9. Btw 9 could turn into 11 or 12 with Bowes, Perryman and some other academy picks expected to go high. It all depends on who pulls the trigger on them.
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9 turning into 11 or 12 means squat. The same pool of players are available to us.

Scharenberg is a very safe choice, but doesn't have superstar qualities. Just does everything how you want it to be done - I wouldn't use a top 10 pick on him, but late teens onwards for sure.
 
So following on from the discussion in another thread, who is this year's flankenfielder (credit tribey) the kid that bolts up the draft order because everyone thinks he's the next Bont, but is actually Andrew Moore?

My money is on Allison (not that he is bolting per se, but he looks as vanilla as my 20c cone)
 
I reckon we're looking for a kid that will be able to come in straight away and have maximum impact. Think Selwood, Wines - that type. The type of player that makes every other player better simply because it's more quality added to the list. I also think we'll be targeting a slashie - a guy that can push into the mid (Hinkley seems to like those types because they give the side the opportunity for different looks in the middle).

Ainsworth or Venables are players I'd be looking at. Both are forwards that can drop into the midfield, but Ainsworth finds more of the ball when he's in there. Of course, if some silky class like Sam Petrevski-Seaton happens to land in our laps, you don't throw the chance to add that sort of skill.

We need to capitalize on the recruitment of Ryder and Dixon - both who are mid to late 20s - and the talent of Robbie Gray. Signing up a key forward that won't be any good until after Ryder and Dixon are gone is pointless - that's why key forwards are generally go early in the draft because they are the hardest to get and take the longest time to develop. But they also go early because the sides that pick them know that they won't be making finals for the next few years and midfielders can be found all the way through the first round every year.

We can either lose the massive amount of money we've already placed in the pot, guaranteed...or we can go all in, say the hand we've got is good enough and hope that we get decent community cards (trades) over the next few years. Right now it's **** or walk...and I say we ****.
 
Janus said:
I reckon we're looking for a kid that will be able to come in straight away and have maximum impact. Think Selwood, Wines - that type. The type of player that makes every other player better simply because it's more quality added to the list. I also think we'll be targeting a slashie - a guy that can push into the mid (Hinkley seems to like those types because they give the side the opportunity for different looks in the middle).

Ainsworth or Venables are players I'd be looking at. Both are forwards that can drop into the midfield, but Ainsworth finds more of the ball when he's in there. Of course, if some silky class like Sam Petrevski-Seaton happens to land in our laps, you don't throw the chance to add that sort of skill.

We need to capitalize on the recruitment of Ryder and Dixon - both who are mid to late 20s - and the talent of Robbie Gray. Signing up a key forward that won't be any good until after Ryder and Dixon are gone is pointless - that's why key forwards are generally go early in the draft because they are the hardest to get and take the longest time to develop. But they also go early because the sides that pick them know that they won't be making finals for the next few years and midfielders can be found all the way through the first round every year.

We can either lose the massive amount of money we've already placed in the pot, guaranteed...or we can go all in, say the hand we've got is good enough and hope that we get decent community cards (trades) over the next few years. Right now it's **** or walk...and I say we ****.
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I took **** as wank.... am I right?
 

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