2018 Rolling All Australian Team

[TiggerMan22]

Why are picking Martin?
Serious question.

Top player, no doubt, but shouldn't even be in the squad, let alone the team.

You gotta watch more footy. Easily still been one of the best kids this year.
Easily in the squad.

 

[00Stinger]

Oh is coaches votes what decide AA now?
Shit argument, try again .

So you don't think the coaches are aware of who the most effective players are?

 

[Juddernaut08]

Cotchin isn't even squad worthy, let alone in the 22. Get your hand off it little tigs.

 

[Joao]

Fyfe and Mccrae prob wont make the cut both prob miss too many games same with sicily.
Mitchell ,cripps ,Oliver should be locks for starting mids.

If they play well enough in the back end they may still sneak in because recency bias.

Fyfe will struggle unless he is outstanding though, he is probably going to miss 5 games. Still think he'll be top 10 in the Brownlow along with Macrae.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Had a pretty slow start to the year, so na for me. Has played really well lately tho.

Edwards is the Tiger that I really hope gets in that most people wouldnt be considering.

I actually think we have a lot of players who haven't quite had AA-standard seasons. The consummate team.

Might get half a dozen in the squad and only a couple in the 22.

 

[TiggerMan22]

So you don't think the coaches are aware of who the most effective players are?

So you dont understand how coaches votes work?

One player has 7 perfect games and 9 worst on ground performances. They have 70 votes.
One player has 6 perfect games and 10 just missing coaches votes. They have 60 votes.

Clearly player 2 has had the better season, yet player 1 has more votes.

Try again.

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

So you dont understand how coaches votes work?

One player has 7 perfect games and 9 worst on ground performances. They have 70 votes.
One player has 6 perfect games and 10 just missing coaches votes. They have 60 votes.

Clearly player 2 has had the better season, yet player 1 has more votes.

Try again.

Sounds like Dusty's year last year in a nutshell....

 

[00Stinger]

So you dont understand how coaches votes work?

One player has 7 perfect games and 9 worst on ground performances. They have 70 votes.
One player has 6 perfect games and 10 just missing coaches votes. They have 60 votes.

Clearly player 2 has had the better season, yet player 1 has more votes.

Try again.

If player 1 ends up winning the AFLCA award as the best player voted by the coaches then yes he has had a better year

However considering I can think of 8 games off the top of my head where Cotchin has had ZERO impact on a game he doesn't fit either of those examples.

It doesn't matter what proof people put up about Cotchin having an average year year your going to try and dispel it. But the fat is he won't even be in the 40 let alone the 22

 

[woosha24]

B: Tom Stewart (GEE) - Alex Rance (RICH) - Jake Lloyd (SYD)
HB: Shannon Hurn (WCE) - Robbie Tarrant (NME) - Rory Laird (ADE)
C: Andrew Gaff (WCE) - Tom Mitchell (HAW) - Steele Sidebottom (COLL)
HF: Shaun Higgins (NME) - Tom Hawkins (GEEL) - Dustin Martin (RICH)
F: Lance Franklin (SYD) - Ben Brown (NME) - Luke Bruest (HAW)
R: Max Gawn (MEL) - Scott Pendlebury (COLL) - Patrick Cripps (CARL)
I: - Brodie Grundy (COLL) - Trent Cotchin (RICH) - Lachie Whitfield (GWS) - Nat Fyfe (FRE)

J. McGovern doesn't get a guernsey down back as the best intercept mark in the league?

Bit stiff.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

J. McGovern doesn't get a guernsey down back as the best intercept mark in the league?

Bit stiff.

Not even on my radar to be honest.

Spent weeks forward, most West Coast fans I've spoken to don't even have him in the squad. He's still a chance. Absolutely dominates some games, so that helps.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Sounds like Dusty's year last year in a nutshell....

Martin polled in 15 games. The other 7 were

28 disposals & 2 goals
27 & 1
24 & 1
23 & 2
21 & 2
19 & 1
16 & 0.3

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

Martin polled in 15 games. The other 7 were

28 disposals & 2 goals
27 & 1
24 & 1
23 & 2
21 & 2
19 & 1
16 & 0.3

Chuck up the clangers/turnover numbers would ya?

 

[Ron The Bear]

Chuck up the clangers/turnover numbers would ya?

Don't have them. But he clearly wasn't "worst on ground" in the games he didn't poll in.

 

[Milanista28]

In an era where pressure is regarded so highly I'm surprised Dev Smith isn't spoken about more often.

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

Don't have them. But he clearly wasn't "worst on ground" in the games he didn't poll in.

agree to disagree

 

[00Stinger]

In an era where pressure is regarded so highly I'm surprised Dev Smith isn't spoken about more often.

Had a great year and will be in the 40 I would imagine. But as a pure midfielder it will be hard for him to slip into the final 22.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

You gotta watch more footy. Easily still been one of the best kids this year.
Easily in the squad.

Disagree.
Excellent player who has had a good year, but not an AA year in my opinion.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

In an era where pressure is regarded so highly I'm surprised Dev Smith isn't spoken about more often.

He’s only kicked 13 goals, so would need to make it as a mid. 21 touches a game and less than 3 clearances a game just doesn’t get it done.

 

[Fadge]

Martin polled in 15 games. The other 7 were

28 disposals & 2 goals
27 & 1
24 & 1
23 & 2
21 & 2
19 & 1
16 & 0.3

Fair season...

 

[Milanista28]

He’s only kicked 13 goals, so would need to make it as a mid. 21 touches a game and less than 3 clearances a game just doesn’t get it done.

Beat all comers for pressure and tackles though, Puts most of the mids that will get selected to shame in that regard.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Beat all comers for pressure and tackles though, Puts most of the mids that will get selected to shame in that regard.

He’s not a top 20 mid. He shouldn’t be getting in the team, and probably shouldn’t make the squad as a result

 

[Back One Out]

It's a pity James Sicily got injured because he was a lock for the AA team. He still gets in at this stage based on his overall body of work. He isn't disqualified just because he got hurt. Someone still has to overtake him over the remaining rounds.

Blake Hardwick is also coming into contention for the 40 man squad as a small defender. He's been great this year.
Jack Gunston has been really consistent and probably flying under the radar. Underrated.


B: Ben Stratton - Alex Rance - James Sicily
HB: Rory Laird - Robbie Tarrant - Shannon Hurn
C: Andrew Gaff - Tom Mitchell (c) - Isaac Smith
HF: Dustin Martin - Jack Riewoldt - Steele Sidebottom
F: Lance Franklin - Ben Brown - Luke Breust (vc)

R: Max Gawn - Nat Fyfe - Stephen Coniglio

I: Brodie Grundy - Patrick Cripps - Shaun Higgins - Jack Gunston

Squad:
Tom Stewart, Jeremy McGovern, Lachie Whitfield, Jake Lloyd, Blake Hardwick, Neville Jetta, Dylan Grimes
Clayton Oliver, Jack Macrae, Dayne Beams, Scott Pendlebury, Ben Cunnington, Trent Cotchin, Patrick Dangerfield, Ollie Wines,
Tom Hawkins, Jack Darling, Jesse Hogan, Josh Caddy, Jordan De Goey, Robbie Gray, Ben McEvoy

 

[Milanista28]

He’s not a top 20 mid. He shouldn’t be getting in the team, and probably shouldn’t make the squad as a result

BS about not making the squad, He's right in it, I know it's a fair stretch to make the 22.

 

[TiggerMan22]

If player 1 ends up winning the AFLCA award as the best player voted by the coaches then yes he has had a better year

However considering I can think of 8 games off the top of my head where Cotchin has had ZERO impact on a game he doesn't fit either of those examples.

It doesn't matter what proof people put up about Cotchin having an average year year your going to try and dispel it. But the fat is he won't even be in the 40 let alone the 22

And what if player 1 doesnt win the award?

Ok list of those 8 games.

? No one has put up any proof of Cotchin having an average year. All youve put up is your own opinion. In case you didnt realize, thats not fact.
Thinking hes not AA is one thing thats a fair opinion, but saying hes having an average year just shows how little you know. Especially funny considering the talk in the commentary box last game that this is his best season, even better than 2012 Brownlow year.
He may not be AA, but he sure as shit hasnt been average. Thats a fact.

 

[Fadge]

B: Ben Stratton - Alex Rance - James Sicily
HB: Rory Laird - Robbie Tarrant - Shannon Hurn
C: Andrew Gaff - Tom Mitchell (c) - Isaac Smith
HF: Dustin Martin - Jack Riewoldt - Steele Sidebottom
F: Lance Franklin - Ben Brown - Luke Breust (vc)

R: Max Gawn - Nat Fyfe - Stephen Coniglio

I: Brodie Grundy - Patrick Cripps - Shaun Higgins - Jack Gunston

Squad:
Tom Stewart, Jeremy McGovern, Lachie Whitfield, Jake Lloyd, Blake Hardwick, Neville Jetta, Dylan Grimes
Clayton Oliver, Jack Macrae, Scott Pendlebury, Ben Cunnington, Trent Cotchin, Patrick Dangerfield, Ollie Wines,
Tom Hawkins, Jack Darling, Jesse Hogan, Josh Caddy, Jordan De Goey, Robbie Gray, Ben McEvoy

Reckon you could find a few more spots in the team for Hawthorn players.