2018 US Midterm Elections - DEMOCRATS WIN HOUSE, REPUBLICANS RETAIN SENATE

[Leon]

Winning the House was bare minimum for the Democrats so at least they’ve achieved that.

Would have liked to have seen that pissant Ted Cruz ****ed off though.

 

[Seeds]

Has to be more than +10 for Dems to be happy.

Why? As long as they have a margin of 3 or so it will have no more effect on their voting power.

 

[AmericanAFL]

More than a bit disorienting that some Aussies on a football board know far more about this than most Americans.

 

[madmug]

However, amendment 4 passing, allowing felons to vote in Florida could make things interesting.[/QUOTE)


Thats people who did the crime, & have done their time & are back in society, & are allowed to vote once released.

Its been a stain on US democracy that its been up to the Governor if & when they could get to vote.

 

[FireKrakouer]

So now it looks reasonably clear that the house will be flipped and the senate retained - both sides will claim a victory. Odd election

More of a victory for the GOP. Given that it's normal to have a swing against the party with the White House, and given that voter apathy supposedly wasn't going to be an issue this time (with all anti-trumpers energised to vote), the Dems should've done better. They've also had all MSM (besides Fox) on their side these 2 years!

So long. For now.

The guy with the culturally appropriated fake name is gonna run for president? I sure hope so!

 

[Seeds]

More of a victory for the GOP. Given that it's normal to have a swing against the party with the White House, and given that voter apathy supposedly wasn't going to be an issue this time (with all anti-trumpers energised to vote), the Dems should've done better. They've also had all MSM (besides Fox) on their side these 2 years!

The guy with the culturally appropriated fake name is gonna run for president? I sure hope so!

So its a win if you lose but the other parties supporters are energized. Um do you know what voting is about?

Plus whens the last time the short term economy has been going so well for a president and the house has flipped against him? What is going to happen when the economic cyclical turns as is likely by the time of the 2020 elections.

 

[Sainteric]

Why? As long as they have a margin of 3 or so it will have no more effect on their voting power.

Yes but the thing is they arent mindless group think drones like the alp reps. You need a buffer because you usually end up with a few mavericks

 

[Seeds]

Yes but the thing is they arent mindless group think drones like the alp reps. You need a buffer because you usually end up with a few mavericks

Which is why i said 3 and not 1.

 

[Sainteric]

So its a win if you lose but the other parties supporters are energized. Um do you know what voting is about?

Plus whens the last time the short term economy has been going so well for a president and the house has flipped against him? What is going to happen when the economic cyclical turns as is likely by the time of the 2020 elections.

This is pretty good for trump to be re elected

 

[FireKrakouer]

So its a win if you lose but the other parties supporters are energized. Um do you know what voting is about?

Plus whens the last time the short term economy has been going so well for a president and the house has flipped against him?

We've heard nothing but how much a disaster the Trump presidency has been for the past 2 years. Apparently he praises nazis, puts children in concentration camps, sucks up to evil dictators, destroys important alliances, the list goes on.

We also heard that a large percentage of Dem voters stayed home in 2016 because they didn't think Trump had a chance. That was all meant to change, bringing in a blue wave. Just recently CNN and our ABC claimed that Trump is the most strongly disapproved of POTUS in history... that was clearly BS.

 

[Sainteric]

Which is why i said 3 and not 1.

10 or 20 is better

 

[Brenton Davy]

Interesting result. Winning back the House is undoubtedly good for the Dems, but what's happening in Florida and Ohio make me think that at this stage Trump's 2020 prospects are looking good.

Particularly salient point.

Whoever wins the Florida pre poll count always wins the presidency. Keep an eye on that at the next election. It's an almost foolproof indicator of who will win the White House

 

[iBeng]

How long before Trump declares this was rigged? I know his more rabid supporters will probably protest this...Violently, possibly.

 

[Poor Form]

So its a win if you lose but the other parties supporters are energized. Um do you know what voting is about?

Plus whens the last time the short term economy has been going so well for a president and the house has flipped against him? What is going to happen when the economic cyclical turns as is likely by the time of the 2020 elections.

Well narrow those criteria some more to make it look as bad as possible why don't you?

Yes it is a loss, scale is yet to be determined. But in the last 100 years 3 times have mid-terms gone in favour of the president so it is not unexpected.

From Wikipedia "over the past 21 midterm elections, the President's party has lost an average 30 seats in the House, and an average four seats in the Senate"

Trump will probably end up around to that 30 mark and gaining 4 in the senate so a mixed bag of results considering the Dems expected a wipeout of Trump and Republicans they have certainly fallen short of that.

 

[QuietB]

More of a victory for the GOP. Given that it's normal to have a swing against the party with the White House, and given that voter apathy supposedly wasn't going to be an issue this time (with all anti-trumpers energised to vote), the Dems should've done better. They've also had all MSM (besides Fox) on their side these 2 years!

The guy with the culturally appropriated fake name is gonna run for president? I sure hope so!

I don't think there are any winners to come out of this. It is all just cementing the division within the USA and that division is not going to end well.

 

[AmericanAFL]

10 or 20 is better

I expect it will end up being around 10.

 

[TigerTime_89]

If an impeachment process starts and if it doesn't pass,
It will be interesting to see how 2020 goes.
Whether Trump electoral college win from 2016 expands or gets destroyed.
Interesting times ahead.

 

[smokingjacket]

Looks like the same problem for the Dems as in 2016. Big bump in their voter turnout and a solid overall blue swing but not enough in key states, gerrymandered districts.

Andrew Gillum not getting up in Florida is a real worry even though it was tight.

 

[Major Colvin]

Looks like the same problem for the Dems as in 2016. Big bump in their voter turnout and a solid overall blue swing but not enough in key states, gerrymandered districts.

Andrew Gillum not getting up in Florida is a real worry even though it was tight.

Spot on. The United States is clearly not a democracy as long rampant gerrymandering exists. Florida is without doubt one of the most corrupt states historically and now - its hard to take the DeSantis victory seriously

 

[smokingjacket]

We've heard nothing but how much a disaster the Trump presidency has been for the past 2 years. Apparently he praises nazis, puts children in concentration camps, sucks up to evil dictators, destroys important alliances, the list goes on.

We also heard that a large percentage of Dem voters stayed home in 2016 because they didn't think Trump had a chance. That was all meant to change, bringing in a blue wave. Just recently CNN and our ABC claimed that Trump is the most strongly disapproved of POTUS in history... that was clearly BS.

Trump has an approval rating of 44% in the national exit polls in a record booming economy. At a similar point two years in office, Obama had an approval rating of 50% despite an unemployment rate of 9%-10%. I wouldn't go running victory laps yet. Considering the economic conditions it's historically remarkable how unpopular Trump is. The only states where Trump has positive approval ratings so far are Georgia, Ohio, Arizona and Florida.

 

[its free real estate]

Trump has an approval rating of 44% in the national exit polls in a record booming economy. At a similar point two years in office, Obama had an approval rating of 50% despite an unemployment rate of 9%-10%. I wouldn't go running victory laps yet. Considering the economic conditions it's historically remarkable how unpopular Trump is. The only states where Trump has positive approval ratings so far are Georgia, Ohio, Arizona and Florida.

Don’t see how this result differs much to 94.

 

[Financialpanther]

Trump has an approval rating of 44% in the national exit polls in a record booming economy. At a similar point two years in office, Obama had an approval rating of 50% despite an unemployment rate of 9%-10%. I wouldn't go running victory laps yet. Considering the economic conditions it's historically remarkable how unpopular Trump is. The only states where Trump has positive approval ratings so far are Georgia, Ohio, Arizona and Florida.

Well at least Trump has a legible excuse for not building the wall now - by and large, his re-election now sits squarely on economic performance and the budget. If it starts to falter, he will be in trouble. If it remains robust and continues to grow, that is his biggest chance for re-election (outside of going into war hawk territory).

 

[Poor Form]

Trump has an approval rating of 44% in the national exit polls in a record booming economy. At a similar point two years in office, Obama had an approval rating of 50% despite an unemployment rate of 9%-10%. I wouldn't go running victory laps yet. Considering the economic conditions it's historically remarkable how unpopular Trump is. The only states where Trump has positive approval ratings so far are Georgia, Ohio, Arizona and Florida.

And yet Obama lost 63(?) seats in his first midterms how'd that happen if he was so loved?

 

[Financialpanther]

And yet Obama lost 63(?) seats in his first midterms how'd that happen if he was so loved?

Could some of that be due to immediately post GFC and having a target to be pissed at?

 

[Saint Shags]

And yet Obama lost 63(?) seats in his first midterms how'd that happen if he was so loved?

When were those held again?