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Who will we take with our first pick (#6) in the 2019 draft?


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ShadeyP

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Stack , Kelly an Pickett would have all been drafted as youngsters however being indigenous with troubled backgrounds is why they didn’t . It took Kelly and Picket to grow older and wiser for clubs to trust to pick them .
ok ... stack was 18 when drafted though . Pickett 27
 

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Interesting stuff. Would look a lot better retaining players like McGovern and Cameron

Good strike rate in the rookie draft but we haven't even bothered with it the last four seasons basically. We used to have consecutive years of picking decent young players in the rookie draft.
It looks a bit different if you add Butt and Strachan last year. IMHO Butt is a big chance to become a long term part of our defence and Strachan is a crazy chance to win the keyforward/back up ruck role.

It would be nice if we could pick up a teenager as a rookie and for him to play 32 games in his first two seasons on our list but I guess that would never happen at the Crows.
 

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These 2 mature age recruits aren't veterans they're both 22 and coming into their prime AFL years....these are not Sam Gibson types at all.

And these midfielders with speed that were left on the board at our 2nd and 3rd picks were ?
Agree. I think what many are forgetting is that it wasn't a great draft year. We got good quality and smashed it out of the park in terms of positioning ourselves for next year's draft.
Grabbing a couple of young lads with AFL ready bodies in the rookie draft was smart. Low cost, good upside.
 

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It looks a bit different if you add Butt and Strachan last year. IMHO Butt is a big chance to become a long term part of our defence and Strachan is a crazy chance to win the keyforward/back up ruck role.

It would be nice if we could pick up a teenager as a rookie and for him to play 32 games in his first two seasons on our list but I guess that would never happen at the Crows.
How many games did Charlie play in his first 2 years? Laird?
 

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How many games did Charlie play in his first 2 years? Laird?
Whoops, should have added the ;).

I find it amusing that many posters including Scorpus ignore Murphy, presumably because he is a dwarf.

Along with a couple of other posters I suggested that we should pick up the sMurph in the Rookie Draft after he outperformed all of our 2016 draftees in the SANFL as a top up player in 2017. Before the first JLT at Strathalbyn last year I said to my mates that it would not surprise me if he played in Round one and he did plus he ended up playing 11 games in his first season. He added another 21 games this year.

Not a bad effort for a rookie listed player, let alone a dwarf.
 

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Whoops, should have added the ;).

I find it amusing that many posters including Scorpus ignore Murphy, presumably because he is a dwarf.

Along with a couple of other posters I suggested that we should pick up the sMurph in the Rookie Draft after he outperformed all of our 2016 draftees in the SANFL as a top up player in 2017. Before the first JLT at Strathalbyn last year I said to my mates that it would not surprise me if he played in Round one and he did plus he ended up playing 11 games in his first season. He added another 21 games this year.

Not a bad effort for a rookie listed player, let alone a dwarf.
Problem is he’s not playing in the position that earnt him a call up. He’s not a small forward.

And he wasn’t really a rookie, as you said he already had a year with us.
 

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To me it suggests poor drafting and more probably youth development. 2016/7 seem bad years with no players really establishing themselves. I am glad we have decided to go big(lots of picks) at the draft.
I think you should have a look at other clubs' histories. I'd be interested to see every club side by side. I'm guessing most would look similar. It's hard to draft good players with the majority of your picks every year.

2016 could turn out poor if Gooch doesn't come on. 2017 we only had two picks and one was 40. Fog looks to be on the money. That's why I mentioned our last two and next years will be important. We've actually had quite a few picks < 40 for a change.
 

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Whoops, should have added the ;).

I find it amusing that many posters including Scorpus ignore Murphy, presumably because he is a dwarf.

Along with a couple of other posters I suggested that we should pick up the sMurph in the Rookie Draft after he outperformed all of our 2016 draftees in the SANFL as a top up player in 2017. Before the first JLT at Strathalbyn last year I said to my mates that it would not surprise me if he played in Round one and he did plus he ended up playing 11 games in his first season. He added another 21 games this year.

Not a bad effort for a rookie listed player, let alone a dwarf.
It is the reason he shouldn't be written off ... the amount of effort he put in to chasing and doing the team things when others were not able to took it out of him season just gone . Wouldn't be surprised that with a more even spread of defensive pressure his offensive game and finishing off in front of goal improves over the next couple of seasons . We haven't seen the best of the little Smurphy yet .
 

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DRAFT PICKS

6. Fischer McAsey: 195cm, 86kg, Defender, Sandringham Dragons

25. Harry Schoenberg: 180cm, 78kg, Midfielder, Woodville West Torrens


28. Josh Worrell: 195cm, 74kg, Defender, Sandringham Dragons

42. Ronin O’Connor: 191cm, 85kg, Midfielder, Claremont

48. Lachlan Gollant: 191cm, 72kg, Midfielder, Calder Cannon

ROOKIE PICKS

7. Ben Keays: 185cm, 89kg, Midfielder, Brisbane Lions

21. Ben Crocker: 188cm, 84kg, Midfielder, Collingwood



Buckenara says: It’s a new generation at Adelaide and the future looks bright. Fischer McAsey brings nice traits and reads the play so well that he can float in and take intercept marks. After losing Alex Keath to the Bulldogs he’s a good addition to develop alongside Daniel Talia and Tom Doedee.

Good to see the Crows bring in some midfield speed and creativity with Harry Schoenberg, Ronin O’Connor and Lachlan Gollant given their onballers are all similar types who aren’t known for their pace. Schoenberg in particular is exactly what they need – he brings speed, endurance and very good skills.

They got a bit of a steal with Josh Worrell at pick 28 – I had him at No.12 – and they just couldn’t pass him up as they would have thought he’d be long gone.

McAsey should get a taste at AFL level next year. Ex-Pie Ben Crocker was an interesting move in the rookie draft. He is a good size and can be a goalkicker.

Buckenara’s verdict: Added some speed and some good key-position prospects, who are always hard to find. Would be very happy with their haul.

 

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Problem is he’s not playing in the position that earnt him a call up. He’s not a small forward.

And he wasn’t really a rookie, as you said he already had a year with us.
Disagree, think his pressure game and speed is much more valuable up forward than in defence

Do think that he needs to find that goal-kicking trait but he's said he knows that's something to work on, it'll come
 

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Disagree, think his pressure game and speed is much more valuable up forward than in defence

Do think that he needs to find that goal-kicking trait but he's said he knows that's something to work on, it'll come
Do players really find goal kicking traits or is it natural?

I can’t see him ever getting to a level that makes him a weapon like some of the best small forwards in the comp and that’s what we should be aiming for, not another Petrenko
 

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Hey Kristof you were saying Georgiades was a "bolter", strange that Port's Geoff Parker said they knew that if they didn't swoop when they did Geelong were going to take him with the pick after theirs. He was no "bolter" in clubland only to the media guys that didn't do their homework on how good he was at last year's Championships for a skinny and physically underdeveloped tall under ager.....nothing like the big strapping lad that rocked up to the Combine and tested impressively even though he'd not played a game in 2019 with his quad issues.


It was a similar situation with Georgiades.
Port believed the athletic West Australian forward had significant upside after missing all of 2019 with a persistent quad injury, but sources told the Power they needed to take him at pick 18, otherwise Geelong would with the next choice.
“At the end of last year, Williams and Georgiades were really, really high up on our draft boards,” Davies said.
 

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Problem is he’s not playing in the position that earnt him a call up. He’s not a small forward.

And he wasn’t really a rookie, as you said he already had a year with us.
Firstly sMurph never trained with the AFL squad in 2016, the nearest he got was selling scarves in the Crows Shop. He barely qualified for the draft in 2016 (born 4/12/98) and the easy option was to go back to the TAC as an overager. He moved state to play in the SANFL and outperformed all our 2016 draftees.

He was the last selection in the 2017 rookie draft and easily the best Kid picked up in the 2017 rookie draft since half those selected were recycled AFL players and guys in their twenties.

When he was interviewed post draft he said that Don Pyke phoned him after Charlie Cameron decided to take the money and run and Don wanted to draft him as a pressure forward. His answer was he would .be happy to play anywhere Don liked.

sMurph is a ripper Kid and it pisses me off that many Crows BigFooty posters (not directed at you EC) fail to recognise what he has already achieved. It is unlikely that any other teenager picked up in the 2017 rookie draft will play more AFL games than sMurph.

I am also willing to bet that Jordan Butts will be the pick of the Kids from the 2018 rookie draft.

My overall point was that most clubs are using the Rookie Draft to pick up recycled players or more mature players from state leagues. Whilst we haven’t picked up any teenagers in this year’s Rookie Draft, we have arguably the best record in recent years in drafting Kids in the Rookie Draft.
 

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Disagree, think his pressure game and speed is much more valuable up forward than in defence

Do think that he needs to find that goal-kicking trait but he's said he knows that's something to work on, it'll come
Agree , it is there ... there were alot of near misses and a few sprays when exhausted . Only 20 , we have enough HBF , best work for him is pressure and some goals up forward . If he is superceded then we are in good shape but the one thing you know is he will fight the hardest of anyone for his spot .
 

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Firstly sMurph never trained with the AFL squad, the nearest he got was selling scarves in the Crows Shop. He barely qualified for the draft in 2016 (born 4/12/98) and the easy option was to go back to the TAC as an overager. He moved state to play in the SANFL and outperformed all our 2016 draftees.

He was the last selection in the 2017 rookie draft and easily the best Kid picked up in the 2017 rookie draft since half those selected were recycled AFL players and guys in their twenties.

When he was interviewed post draft he said that Don Pyke phoned him after Charlie Cameron decided to take the money and run and Don wanted to draft him as a pressure forward. His answer was he would .be happy to play anywhere Don liked.

sMurph is a ripper Kid and it pisses me off that many Crows BigFooty posters (not directed at you EC) fail to recognise what he has already achieved. It is unlikely that any other teenager picked up in the 2017 rookie draft will play more AFL games than sMurph.

I am also willing to bet that Jordan Butts will be the pick of the Kids from the 2018 rookie draft.

My overall point was that most clubs are using the Rookie Draft to pick up recycled players or more mature players from state leagues. Whilst we haven’t picked up any teenagers in this year’s Rookie Draft, we have arguably the best record in recent years in drafting Kids in the Rookie Draft.
So given he moved here, wasn’t playing for any other club, who did he train with?

He wasn’t a stranger to our program like a normal rookie is.

Don’t get me wrong, kudos to what he had the balls to do and the effort he puts in. I just don’t seem him as a small forward of high quality and we should be expecting better from our small forwards.

I would hope that we try him down back at some stage otherwise he may not have a long career.
 

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All Port's first 3 picks have massive injury comcerns, yeah they might work out but realistically at least 1 will be a bust maybe more.
 

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All Port's first 3 picks have massive injury comcerns, yeah they might work out but realistically at least 1 will be a bust maybe more.
Not true .... they had injury concerns and nothing that warrants any long term concern ... all have massive upside .
 

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Whoops, should have added the ;).

I find it amusing that many posters including Scorpus ignore Murphy, presumably because he is a dwarf.

Along with a couple of other posters I suggested that we should pick up the sMurph in the Rookie Draft after he outperformed all of our 2016 draftees in the SANFL as a top up player in 2017. Before the first JLT at Strathalbyn last year I said to my mates that it would not surprise me if he played in Round one and he did plus he ended up playing 11 games in his first season. He added another 21 games this year.

Not a bad effort for a rookie listed player, let alone a dwarf.
In the last five rookie drafts we've taken two mature AFL players, two mature SANFL players, a mature VFL player, a mature NEAFL player and two father sons no one was interested in. Those players have played 5 AFL games combined. Terrible return.

The two young players we've taken in five years are Butts and Murphy. It's no surprise to me whatsoever these are the only two who look like good prospects. And one of them we had no choice but to look at as he was in our SANFL side. Murphy already has 30 games and Butts should get an opportunity

We need to be doing more young recruiting through the rookie draft. They've been our most successful picks. Not mature discards.

I would have taken O'Neill in this draft no problemo
 

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These 2 mature age recruits aren't veterans they're both 22 and coming into their prime AFL years....these are not Sam Gibson types at all.

And these midfielders with speed that were left on the board at our 2nd and 3rd picks were ?
Realistically both won’t play much for us. I question why in the last 2 years we downgrade pick to lower positions and miss out on players that would help us. I feel Hamish knows who he wants and gets them. I think Hamish is making odd decisions like the last pick when we had better options.

The first 3 picks are great rebuilding tools but when the hell is he gonna to pick a few outside wingman? This has been a big issue for years and we haven’t drafted any.

Our list is really uneven and I see a big downfall in the next 2 years. We have no big midfielder and no fast runners. We are depending on Mackay, Atkins and the injury prone Seedsman. We are also slow all around the field. Why pick up all talls?

It just makes no sense, even if you say we took beat available it still smells like BS to me. As fans it’s a big let down as well as these guys won’t contribute much if at all next year. We need some good news on the pitch after last year’s poor showing. Only Jones and McHenry will show something I think


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Agree , it is there ... there were alot of near misses and a few sprays when exhausted . Only 20 , we have enough HBF , best work for him is pressure and some goals up forward . If he is superceded then we are in good shape but the one thing you know is he will fight the hardest of anyone for his spot .
That's what I find strange with Lachie, I saw plenty of him playing for the Northern Knights in his draft year and every game I watched for the Northern Knights their 3 standouts were invariably Murph, Matty Signorello and Luke Bunker [Coburg VFL]. Murphy played mostly midfield with a few stints in defence and up forward and one of his best attributes other than his contested ball and pressure was his long accurate penetrating kick. Kicked quite a few goals as well and kicking would have been the least of my worries.
What's happened there with regard to his set shot goal kicking I'm not sure. I'm thinking it's more between the ears than anything else.

Looking back through the AFL Draft Central archives then penned by Matt Balmer now Fox's draft guru....


#9 – Lachlan Murphy



At all clearance opportunities, Murphy was the go-to player for Knights, sharking from the ruck contests multiple times. Set the Knights up going out of the contest, showing he can win a great mix of inside and outside football and using his already developed frame collecting 30 disposals.



Pick 38: MB
Lachlan Murphy
Small Defender/Inside Midfielder (Northern Knights/Vic Country)
04/12/1998 | 173cm | 74kg


One of the few selected for our “All Stars” match who didn’t score a national combine invite. Alas- I’ve been a big fan of Murphy’s work in the last month and a bit, whether it be at school or TAC Cup level. A nice left foot, who makes the ball spin perfectly off his boot each time he kicks it. Despite his size, he has rolled through the inside midfield- But looks best at home across half back. Begins on the bench, but can play anywhere.

Lachlan Murphy – “Rejected time and time again at the next level, but continues to shine. His football speaks for itself – if you want a player to give you effort, Lachie is just that one to continue to stand up.”

In this match there are plenty of versatile midfielders to watch out for that could stake their claim in the National AFL Draft later this year. For the Knights, Mason Blakey and Luke Bunker are the inside grunt workers, often pushing back behind the ball to try to keep the team in possession. The two most damaging players for Northern are Matthew Signorello and Lachlan Murphy, both for different reasons.

Matt Balmer’s scouting notes:


AGSV


#2 Lachlan Murphy
– I really like Murphy. Uses the ball effectively off his left foot, where the ball spins perfectly off the boot. Kicked two goals in the first quarter, but did his best work around the contest. Looks most at home off half back, but has the ability to play wherever he is needed. Also took a few strong overhead marks, which isn’t associated with players standing at 173cm.
 

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That's what I find strange with Lachie, I saw plenty of him playing for the Northern Knights in his draft year and every game I watched for the Northern Knights their 3 standouts were invariably Murph, Matty Signorello and Luke Bunker [Coburg VFL]. Murphy played mostly midfield with a few stints in defence and up forward and one of his best attributes other than his contested ball and pressure was his long accurate penetrating kick. Kicked quite a few goals as well and kicking would have been the least of my worries.
What's happened there with regard to his set shot goal kicking I'm not sure. I'm thinking it's more between the ears than anything else.

Looking back through the AFL Draft Central archives then penned by Matt Balmer now Fox's draft guru....


#9 – Lachlan Murphy



At all clearance opportunities, Murphy was the go-to player for Knights, sharking from the ruck contests multiple times. Set the Knights up going out of the contest, showing he can win a great mix of inside and outside football and using his already developed frame collecting 30 disposals.



Pick 38: MB
Lachlan Murphy
Small Defender/Inside Midfielder (Northern Knights/Vic Country)
04/12/1998 | 173cm | 74kg


One of the few selected for our “All Stars” match who didn’t score a national combine invite. Alas- I’ve been a big fan of Murphy’s work in the last month and a bit, whether it be at school or TAC Cup level. A nice left foot, who makes the ball spin perfectly off his boot each time he kicks it. Despite his size, he has rolled through the inside midfield- But looks best at home across half back. Begins on the bench, but can play anywhere.

Lachlan Murphy – “Rejected time and time again at the next level, but continues to shine. His football speaks for itself – if you want a player to give you effort, Lachie is just that one to continue to stand up.”

In this match there are plenty of versatile midfielders to watch out for that could stake their claim in the National AFL Draft later this year. For the Knights, Mason Blakey and Luke Bunker are the inside grunt workers, often pushing back behind the ball to try to keep the team in possession. The two most damaging players for Northern are Matthew Signorello and Lachlan Murphy, both for different reasons.

Matt Balmer’s scouting notes:


AGSV


#2 Lachlan Murphy
– I really like Murphy. Uses the ball effectively off his left foot, where the ball spins perfectly off the boot. Kicked two goals in the first quarter, but did his best work around the contest. Looks most at home off half back, but has the ability to play wherever he is needed. Also took a few strong overhead marks, which isn’t associated with players standing at 173cm.
Nice one Mutes , hadn't seen these blurbs .

He seems to put alot of pressure on himself so i think it is a combination of relaxing once in possession and also being able to switch some of his output to the offensive side of his game . His finishing was slightly better in 18 than 19 .

So yeah it is a between the ears thing but i reckon it will come once he slots a few .... the doubt gone and he is off .
 

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Realistically both won’t play much for us. I question why in the last 2 years we downgrade pick to lower positions and miss out on players that would help us. I feel Hamish knows who he wants and gets them. I think Hamish is making odd decisions like the last pick when we had better options.

The first 3 picks are great rebuilding tools but when the hell is he gonna to pick a few outside wingman? This has been a big issue for years and we haven’t drafted any.

Our list is really uneven and I see a big downfall in the next 2 years. We have no big midfielder and no fast runners. We are depending on Mackay, Atkins and the injury prone Seedsman. We are also slow all around the field. Why pick up all talls?

It just makes no sense, even if you say we took beat available it still smells like BS to me. As fans it’s a big let down as well as these guys won’t contribute much if at all next year. We need some good news on the pitch after last year’s poor showing. Only Jones and McHenry will show something I think


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I think Ben Keays will play quite a bit of AFL for us, I don't see him as simply a depth player, Crocker may struggle initially but even he could get games if a guy like Lynch gets injured and Davis doesn't elevate his game this season. Think you're underselling both players quite a bit.

Ronin O'Connor is 191cm and 85kg's already [how big do you want?] and has tested sub 3 sec/20m hasn't he?

Both Sholl and Will Hamill are speedy outside mid/wing/hbf types, plenty of run there and Neddy can play that type of role as well.
 
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