2019 Non-Crows AFL Chat Part 2

[TheLeftFist8]

Are you sure that is not you just looking for something because you want Campo gone.

No, he genuinely comes across as smug, arrogant, dismissive and patronising.

 

[hey shorty]

And actually just to reinforce:

How often was Lyons pushed to the high half forward graveyard. Just like Gallucci

Difference being Lyons is and always has been quite decent forward.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Lyons ?? Nah we didn't, we played him quite a bit and wanted to keep him.

We just paid him what he was worth

I'm not sure sub and HFF counts while Thommo was getting around the centre square on his wheelchair

 

[XBX4]

His lack of development is quite sad.

They use him as a battering ram. I would have loved him with us with those raw traits (ball hunting ability and brute force strength) and Eddie to be a role model for him outside of Footy.

Port have basically left him in his raw state. As they have Ollie.


I will probably be saying the same thing about Rozee, Butters and Dursma in 2021.

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I feel with SPP he was already nearing his ceiling when they drafted him.
He was already developed and dominating smaller bodied players

Everyone else developed but he had nowhere to really go

 

[subaru]

Port are horrendously coached.

Isn’t it fantastic !

 

[Scrogdogg]

I don't know. Something about history and tradition and existing to win premierships or something or other.

Yeah, it all began way back in 1870 0or thereabouts......................

 

[Rotayjay]

Just looked at the ladder. How the hell are we only 2 games behind second.

Wouldn't even be confident in beating Carlton in a couple of weeks.

The things I would do to have the 2017 crows this year.

Someone pointed this out, and to my surprise when I looked it up, they were right.

In terms of wins and percentage, the 2016 Crows were actually better than the 2017 Crows. It's just that there were a few sides better than us in 2016, while in 2017 we were the best of a more even competition. In 2016 the top 8 were so much stronger than the bottom 10.

 

[1970crow]

Yeah Riciutto was soft. And now the Hawks have Stratton.

Cats had a couple of hard heads as well.

 

[1970crow]

I feel with SPP he was already nearing his ceiling when they drafted him.
He was already developed and dominating smaller bodied players

Everyone else developed but he had nowhere to really go

A few posted that possibility when our talent ID were getting slammed for missing him.

 

[SugarShane]

The things I would do to have the 2017 crows this year.

They'd still blow the GF. 2017 was very much like this year, except we were the Geelong. That was just as much the year to steal a flag while no one was dominating if we didn't shit the bed.

 

[kirky]

Just looked at the ladder. How the hell are we only 2 games behind second.

Wouldn't even be confident in beating Carlton in a couple of weeks.

The things I would do to have the 2017 crows this year.

The standard of football has dropped. No team is dominant - even Geelong appear vulnerable. The team that gets its shit together over next 9-10 weeks will win the flag.

Geelong - very soft draw in last 6 weeks (not good going into finals)
Collingwood - interesting draw ahead with sone challenges but should equip them well if they get key players back
Brisbane - who knows, biggest improvement and have winnable games for next 4 weeks before ending with Geelong and Richmond
West Coast- convincing at times but if Kennedy doesn’t fire they seem to struggle to win
Richmond - hardest draw of the 8 and if they get top 4 (don’t think they will as two games behind plus % plus they play the three above them)
GWS - on the ropes but after next two weeks their draw is favourable
Us - who ****ing knows - Essendon will be a major win and games against West Coast and Collingwood will dictate if we have a home final
Essendon - games against the two Adelaide sides determine if they make the 8, finish with Collingwood
Port - drop another home game and only Freo is a given in the last round. Richmond this week will probably determine their season given don’t think they will win another away game
Bulldogs - draw is ok but still have to beat more sides another them. Unlikely.

Interesting that their are a lot of 8 point games in the last 6 rounds - the eight and its formation are well up for grabs. Top 4 is likely set given the top 4 have a 2 game break plus % which isn’t easy to make up in 6 rounds.

 

[MRB37]

It's the usual Port bravado with Neale though. We simply put a first year player on him with a minimum of fuss and he keeps him to 12 touches in a half. Port have to do a big song and dance about how tough they are and try and physically intimidate him and give away stupid frees and 50's in the process.

 

[Tex200]

Difference being Lyons is and always has been quite decent forward.

Oh come on.....

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The standard of football has dropped. No team is dominant - even Geelong appear vulnerable. The team that gets its s**t together over next 9-10 weeks will win the flag.

Geelong - very soft draw in last 6 weeks (not good going into finals)
Collingwood - interesting draw ahead with sone challenges but should equip them well if they get key players back
Brisbane - who knows, biggest improvement and have winnable games for next 4 weeks before ending with Geelong and Richmond
West Coast- convincing at times but if Kennedy doesn’t fire they seem to struggle to win
Richmond - hardest draw of the 8 and if they get top 4 (don’t think they will as two games behind plus % plus they play the three above them)
GWS - on the ropes but after next two weeks their draw is favourable
Us - who ******* knows - Essendon will be a major win and games against West Coast and Collingwood will dictate if we have a home final
Essendon - games against the two Adelaide sides determine if they make the 8, finish with Collingwood
Port - drop another home game and only Freo is a given in the last round. Richmond this week will probably determine their season given don’t think they will win another away game
Bulldogs - draw is ok but still have to beat more sides another them. Unlikely.

Interesting that their are a lot of 8 point games in the last 6 rounds - the eight and its formation are well up for grabs. Top 4 is likely set given the top 4 have a 2 game break plus % which isn’t easy to make up in 6 rounds.

Agree the flag is for the taking in an open season.

Disagree the top 4 is set. Imo Richmond will make the top 4.

Pies I think have a more challenging draw than Richmond & have just lost their captain for sometime.

 

[kirky]

Agree the flag is for the taking in an open season.

Disagree the top 4 is set. Imo Richmond will make the top 4.

Pies I think have a more challenging draw than Richmond & have just lost their captain for sometime.

Which of the top 4 are they going to displace?

Collingwood will beat GWS, Suns and Melbourne - that gives them 14 wins. They beat Richmond they are top 4. It’s all about the wins.

 

[jackster83]

Agree the flag is for the taking in an open season.

Disagree the top 4 is set. Imo Richmond will make the top 4.

Pies I think have a more challenging draw than Richmond & have just lost their captain for sometime.

Geelong will be hoping Collingwood or Richmond don't finish 4th.

 

[Tex200]

Difference being Lyons is and always has been quite decent forward.

You’re embarrassing yourself now. He was a very average half forward that couldn’t nail a spot. Because it’s a graveyard spot.

The fact is he’s a quality mid which we couldn’t or wouldn’t see. Gallucci is exactly the same

 

[Crow till I die]

Yeah, it all began way back in 1870 0or thereabouts......................and ended in 1996

FTFY

 

[kirky]

Brisbane will win against Roos, Bulldogs and Suns at home so they will get to 14.

Richmond can’t afford to drop another game as their % is crap (might get some of it against Dees and Blues).

Big wins this weekend by Collingwood and Brisbane all but guaranteed them top 4.

 

[Tex200]

Lyons had 36 possessions against a midfield that annihilated ours.

Yet we could only find a spot on the same HFF that Gallucci occupies.

Our mid development is a joke

 

[Pea Nut]

Lyons had 36 possessions against a midfield that annihilated ours.

Yet we could only find a spot on the same HFF that Gallucci occupies.

Our mid development is a joke

Wouldn't it actually say that out player development is very good. He just couldn't be utilised as an inside midfielder as we have better players already on our list. So he was moved on. And has done well at times at 2 different clubs now. He is and has been very inconsistent. If he was actually still here and was in the 22 every week what would be said on here about our midfield being one paced. Look at what is said about our current mix. It would be a lot worse if he was still here.

 

[FR0GGY]

Lyons had 36 possessions against a midfield that annihilated ours.

Yet we could only find a spot on the same HFF that Gallucci occupies.

Our mid development is a joke

Im not laughing.

 

[Mike Smyth]

They'd still blow the GF. 2017 was very much like this year, except we were the Geelong. That was just as much the year to steal a flag while no one was dominating if we didn't s**t the bed.

I wouldn't be confident playing any of the top 6 in a GF. I reckon physically they would smash us given we have minimal aggression. Would love to see FOG and CEY come in for finals for this very reason.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Geelong will be hoping Collingwood or Richmond don't finish 4th.

Indeed as history may well repeat.

 

[Southerntakeover]

They'd still blow the GF. 2017 was very much like this year, except we were the Geelong. That was just as much the year to steal a flag while no one was dominating if we didn't s**t the bed.

Absolutely. 2017 was a historically weak year at the top end.

And we still couldnt get it done.