to get you have to give
nothing is for free and no reason for Geelong to feel a sense of entitlement
Tom Lynch.
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to get you have to give
nothing is for free and no reason for Geelong to feel a sense of entitlement
I don't support GWS. I am just talking facts. Are you colour blind too? A club which had virtually no salary cap in its first couple of seasons was always going to struggle to retain some of their players when the afl tightened their cap at a moment's notice. Nothing to do with culture
Your comments are so inaccurate.
Deleido's comments related to the culture of the players doing too much themselves as players, under pressure. They try to win it themselves. Interestingly when you win doing that, everyone lauds the player standing up in the big moment. I think it is fair criticism from delidio. But completely irrelevant to this conversation.
Has our club retained anyone of note, let me think. Toby, Haynes, Cogs, Whitfield and Kelly have all basically signed for life. All on good money, why would that be, maybe cause they are very good players being chased by all and sundry. All of them could have got more money elsewhere. Cogs left $1.4mil on the table. Kelly and Whitfield both knocked back offers for significantly more. Kelly took just over half according to one report (which may not be accurate)
Ill do the easy bit first, no good players have come. How about Patful, Shaw, Mumford, Delidio and Griffen in a quick think. Haven't really been in a position to attract too much top end talent, mostly because we have had an excess at talent at the club already. Salary caps and all that prevent you from dong that.
Alright, players leaving. It is no secret that early doors we focussed on picks rather than established players. Has cap has placed pressure on keeping those early picks, we have traded them for more early picks, this has continued, it has enabled us to spread the age demographic of the list, in fact we are a bit young once we have a few out. But if you bring in 8 top 25 draft picks in a 2 year period, not all can play, and you cant pay them all like future stars some will leave. Have you ever heard of players leaving because they dont like the place? Quite the reverse the commentary for years has been about a good quality culture at the Giants keeping the guys together when times were tough.
Look at this year specifically, Corr and Williams both got Godfather offers we couldn't match. Going to happen when you have a lot of good players can't pay them all. Hately cant get a run and is all but guaranteed a spot in his home state. Langdon is falling down our pecking order and could be 2 injuries from getting a run now, if he goes likely, it is for opportunity. Caldwell and Cameron we obviously fighting hard to keep, hopefully we keep them both, but if we lose them, it isnt because they aren't happy. Quite the reverse, that is why we are still in the race.
You comments are clearly that of someone with an axe to grind. You want Cameron, who wouldnt, you dont like that the Giants pulled a lever you dont have, your comments there after a nonsense.
I know Geelong usually get there man, and are a great club, but getting all upset cause someone may not go there reeks of entitlement and is really disrespectful of other clubs.
So you think we should of spent even more?
We are in the process of bringing in a ruck so would say that’s a step up.
We already have superstars in Greene, Whitfield, Cogs, Haynes, and possibly still Jezza.
Why bring in more?
Superstars are only the foundation of a competitive side - it's the role players that matter the most
Apologies, but I think we can both agree, if it was us having a lunch with Jeremy, with a Seven Melbourne exec. present and offering deals outside the salary cap in order to sway Cameron, you guys would be pretty annoyed too. It's just not good for anyone to be doing it - given how tenuous the integrity of the comp is already
Superstars are only the foundation of a competitive side - it's the role players that matter the most
I thought that the chatter had been 2 B Cat rookies plus 2-4 A Cat rookies ... I don't think Mummy can be a B Cat rookie, can he? Callum Brown - if this is true - would be only only B Cat rookie after Buckley was moved to the main list. That would leave us one free spot - we could select Josh Green (auto selection in the rookie draft as I doubt that we'd take him on the main list).
All speculative until AFL House get their s**t together, and several options have been mooted, but lately I've seen some chat of 38-40 main list plus 2-4 Cat A rookies for a 42 total (or even just a straight 42 main list) and then 2 Cat B rookies on top. What you said could be a close cousin of that last option, just 2 less in total. I don't know how any club is finalising delistings and contracts while all of this is still unclear!Thought I saw it might be going 38-40 primary list and 2 rookies but you're probably right.
Absolutely. Might bring out a bit more real hardness in a few players too with any luck.Who else is looking forward to Binga and Bobby in the same forward line under the tutelage of Stevie J!
Who else is looking forward to Binga and Bobby in the same forward line under the tutelage of Stevie J!
With the cats winning we will now have to wait another week at least to be told he is leaving
I would opine that Jezza - like Caldwell - has not actually made a final decision (that's just going on general reporting). In Jezza's case, there's seemingly a monetary & lifestyle attraction to Cats but loyalty to us.I would like the Giants, if they know he is going to just announce it so we can get on with 2021 prep.
It’ll be a gut punch but not the end of the world.
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I agree there will be some value to be had. I know the JC contract is drawing things out a bit but I’m a little concerned no players in the league are linked to us at this point apart from BPLooking at some of the OOC players around the league i think there's some good value. Melbourne in particular have Spargo (ex-academy small forward) and Marty Horewho I think would be best 22 for us if brought in, and would be relatively cheap, think it's a dead horse comment from me now but there's a lot of value in the DFA's and cheap OOC's this season more than ever, I'd hope we're doing our due diligencePLAYERCARDSTART27Marty Hore
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 190cm
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- 84kg
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CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 15.6
- 4star
- K
- 10.4
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- HB
- 5.2
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- M
- 4.9
- 5star
- T
- 1.5
- 3star
- MG
- 263.1
- 4star
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- D
- 18.2
- 5star
- K
- 12.8
- 5star
- HB
- 5.4
- 4star
- M
- 6.8
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- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- MG
- 282.2
- 5star
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Yeah it's pretty worrying that it looks like we'll get little experience through the door, perhaps we'll pull out some draft night shocks like we seem to doI agree there will be some value to be had. I know the JC contract is drawing things out a bit but I’m a little concerned no players in the league are linked to us at this point apart from BP