List Mgmt. 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

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List Mgmt. - 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread - Part 2

This Part 2 Continued from Part 1: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-list-management-free-agency-trade-thread.1241035/ What type of players does our list need? Pace, Skill, Class and and goal threat. A winger, forward flank and forward pocket are the 3 positions that we need, plus...

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[Square Peg]

Dixon is a 50/1 long shot, but still makes more sense than Bailey boy.

 

[CapitalA]

Good news for Hugh Dixon

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Hugh Dixon

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

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Career

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Last 5

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2star

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4.0

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2.0

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No current season stats available

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Dockers ponder second chance for axed key forward

Hugh Dixon could be given a second chance at an AFL career with Freo over summer

www.afl.com.au

Pull your finger out Hughy! You can become the legendary milky wizard!

 

[Carnthedockers]

I thought it was strange how bell said we would keep an eye on his progress.

 

[Freomaniac]

Draft central write-up.

Shannon Neale
Shannon NealeIra Jetta

Height202cmWeight91kgCurrent TeamSouth FremantleBirthdayJuly 25, 2002

Image Credit: (Retrieved from) South Fremantle FC

POSITION: Ruck/Key Forward
DRAFT ANALYSIS: “Neale is a raw ruckman/key forward who has an enormous upside, credit largely to his outstanding athleticism.” – Lenny Fogliani
Jandakot Jets junior, Shannon Neale is a ruckman who has shown an ability to push forward to become a significant aerial threat. In 2020, Neale averaged 13 possessions, 19 hit-outs, three inside 50s, three tackles, three marks and kicked three goals across eight games. His best games for South Fremantle came against East Fremantle in Round 1 (15 possessions, 15 hit-outs, seven marks, five inside 50s, one goal), Subiaco in Round 4 (20 possessions, 14 hit-outs, five inside 50s, four tackles, three marks, two goals), and Swan Districts in Round 5 (15 possessions, 21 hit-outs, four marks, three inside 50s). In 2019, he won South Fremantle’s Rising Star Award and South Fremantle’s Leading Goalkicker Award. Prior to committing to football with South Fremantle, Neale was a National 400m and 800m runner. Since, he has represented Western Australia at the 2019 Under 16 National Championships, played in the Under 17 Futures All-Star showcase, and ran out for this year’s Western Australia Under 18 All-Star clashes.
STRENGTHS

• Athleticism
• Vertical leap
• Contested/overhead marking
• Ground coverage
• Ruck craft
• Upside

IMPROVEMENTS

• Durability
• Consistency
• Raw

The former National 400m and 800m runner showcased his athletic prowess at the WA Combine, where he secured top-five results in the standing vertical jump (73cm), running vertical jumps (both over 86cm) and the 2km time trial (6:35 minutes). Neale utilises his athleticism on the football field, using his vertical jump to launch over other ruckmen in the ruck contests, but also to soar over defenders to take strong contested marks. Neale has good toe off the mark and gains handy separation on the lead too, ensuring he can provide a good lead-up option while stationed forward and diversify his play.
His athleticism also ties into being able to cover the ground well. Neale possesses the tank to be able to play like a fourth midfielder in the ruck, and is able to mark well around the ground. He looks to still be sharpening that tool, and could certainly benefit from utilising his running capacity to a greater extend while up forward, getting further up the ground to link his side into attack with marks down the line. Part of that is his developing football smarts and as quite a raw footballer, Neale will only get better in terms of football smarts with experience.
Other facets tied into the ‘raw’ tag are strength and consistency. Neale has filled out from 86kg to 91kg come season’s end and is clearly growing in the former department, but can always figure more consistently as he gains a greater understanding of his role. It is more a case of having an extended impact on games, rather than drifting in and contributing a few eye-catching plays. Neale’s durability will be extended with that added strength, lending to a higher level of consistency too. He spend a good deal of time on the sidelines with lower back issues in 2019, which he now seems to be over, and was robbed of the opportunity to make his Reserves debut in 2020 on account of an ankle injury.
While Neale is still raw, his upside is enormous and he could prove to be a draft bargain. This draft crop boasts a couple of ruck options within the first round, but Neale could be one of the premier picks a touch later on. His strong athletic base and steep rate of development bode for breakout form in future, and clubs will value the potential he has shown. In time, he looms as a player who could turn into the dominant rucks we know of today, who can clunk big marks, rotate forward, and cover the ground supremely well.
DRAFT PROJECTION: 35-50
Depending on just how keen clubs are on securing a ruck option in this draft, Neale could go as early as in the late-second round. He is perhaps more likely to be picked up in the third round though, with would-be suitors evidently buoyed by his high ceiling and the improvements he has already made. Neale very much suits the mould as a project player and depending on which club takes him, may not be sighted for a couple of seasons as he builds his craft. The West Australian has spoken to both clubs in his home state and a bunch of others, so there is clearly interest in his potential. He could end up as a high value choice down the line, and may start his career as a specialist forward who pinch-hits in the ruck, again depending on which club he end up at.
>> Power Rankings: October Update
HIGHLIGHTED TESTING RESULTS:
WA Draft Combine:
Running Vertical Jump (R/L) – 86cm/91cm
Speed (20m) – 3.037 seconds
Endurance (2km) – 6:35
FURTHER CONTENT:
Positional Analysis: Rucks
WA U18 All-Stars Scouting Notes: Game 1 | Game 2
WAFL Colts

Season	Team	K	HB	D	M	CP	UP	T	HO	CLR	I50	R50	GL	GM	K	H	D	M	HO	T	G	DC
2019	South Fremantle	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Total	-	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

definately worth a shot with our 2nd round pick

 

[ImperialPurple]

Good news for Hugh Dixon

41

Hugh Dixon

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

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Dockers ponder second chance for axed key forward

Hugh Dixon could be given a second chance at an AFL career with Freo over summer

www.afl.com.au

Imagine if he got his s**t together. A 195cm talented 21-yr-old KPF could be quite useful.

 

[Taylor]

Just needs to show up to preseason like he already has a job and wants a three year extension.

 

[Carnthedockers]

Just needs to show up to preseason like he already has a job and wants a three year extension.

Hopefully the kick up the arse he needed

 

[Joao]

Good news for Hugh Dixon

41

Hugh Dixon

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

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Dockers ponder second chance for axed key forward

Hugh Dixon could be given a second chance at an AFL career with Freo over summer

www.afl.com.au

Can only assume he took the delisting seriously. Here is hoping.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Good news for Hugh Dixon

41

Hugh Dixon

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

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Dockers ponder second chance for axed key forward

Hugh Dixon could be given a second chance at an AFL career with Freo over summer

www.afl.com.au

4 weeks ago
Bell: Get rid of him
Wallsy: Really, I know the kid likes a pie or two but without him, we'll have just Tabs and Hogan as KPF's on the list. We'll be pretty sho... I mean sma... I mean Tabs and Hogan will be the traditional CHF/FF on the list, and anything could happen with Hogan
Belli: GET. RID. OF. HIM. And let the team know, the next person to make fun of Danny Devito will join him.
Wallsy: K, boss

3 Weeks ago
Bell: GET HOGAN OUT OF MY ******** FACE
Wallsy: But we'll have no-o
Bell: DID I STUTTER DAVID, GET HIM OUT OF HERE, I DONT CARE WHAT WE GET FOR HIM, PETER DINKLAGE IS THE GREATEST ACTOR OF OUR GENERATION
Wallsy: Maybe 1 more ch
Bell: OUT!!!!

Monday Morning
Bell: David, where the **** are all our key forwards, I'm told we only have Tabs left
Wallsy: Uhhh yeah Pete that's right
Bell: Then obviously, we are getting McDonald or someone
Wallsy: He's probably out of our reach boss
Bell: Well list genius, is there some KPF kid around our pick
Wallsy: There's Nik Cox who COULD play forward
Bell: ...
Bell: David mate, I like you, you're bag carrying is top shelf but this s**t isnt acceptable. What happened to that Dixon kid, he could play.
Wallsy: Uhh, we had to let him go for attitude reasons
Bell: Well that's just stupid, get him back, reckon he could be anything
Wallsy: sigh
Wallsy: Sure thing boss

 

[Walkingwounded]

Just needs to show up to preseason like he already has a job and wants a three year extension.

We need to have a list vacancy available as a Carrot on the end of a stick.. if it doesn’t work out... we use the stick instead.

 

[theGav56]

Let’s face it, we are desperate.

 

[Joao]

Let’s face it, we are desperate.

Pretty much. At least if Dixon learns how to run he could probably get to AFL standard in the next year or two. Even a first round draftee is probably 3+ away.

 

[Scham]

When names like Keitel and Shaw are thrown around, we’re desperate alright! Reckon this bloke is a class above them but he’s still got serious work to do to make it.

It’s worth a shot getting him to prove his application while not on a list or in an AFL environment.

 

[FUS_RO_DAH]

When names like Keitel and Shaw are thrown around, we’re desperate alright! Reckon this bloke is a class above them but he’s still got serious work to do to make it.

It’s worth a shot getting him to prove his application while not on a list or in an AFL environment.

Ahhh. Been a few years, but I've missed the yearly hunt for a KPF.

Sigh.

 

[Bring back Drum]

If he hasn't knocked 20 seconds of his best 2k time trial time at the first session, send him back to Tassie, he's not serious.

 

[Swiggy]

definately worth a shot with our 2nd round pick

problem is going to be lose that pick for Walker if bid comes before 32...

think best way to get Neale is to hope he is there after both Walker & western then trade back in

 

[TheLastCall]

problem is going to be lose that pick for Walker if bid comes before 32...

think best way to get Neale is to hope he is there after both Walker & western then trade back in

Hoping we get to our pick before a bid. Pick up Neale. Otherwise trade back in.

 

[meesy]

Pretty much. At least if Dixon learns how to run he could probably get to AFL standard in the next year or two. Even a first round draftee is probably 3+ away.

The AFL just changed a rule requiring Key forwards to stay camped in the goal square. Makes sense to pick up Dixon again.

 

[Walkingwounded]

The AFL just changed a rule requiring Key forwards to stay camped in the goal square. Makes sense to pick up Dixon again.

Sauce and link?

All I found was

“
While deep consideration was given to forcing a set number of players to be anchored in zones at each stoppage, the AFL baulked at introducing such drastic rules for 2021.”

 

[Dockernut]

The AFL just changed a rule requiring Key forwards to stay camped in the goal square. Makes sense to pick up Dixon again.

Is that for real? FMD.

 

[Square Peg]

Is that for real? FMD.

I think it's getting trialled for the VFL only. Not AFL

 

[BarbieITFC]

With Western and Henry plus Walters why do we need Schultz ?
Imo Schultz will not be part of a finals side.
Great he lays the occasional tackle but that's the extent of his talents.

Because if someone like Schultz is the 32nd/33rd/34th best player on the list then we’ve got better squad depth than we did in 2013. Not quite as much top end talent, but much better depth.

Personally, I rate Switta higher than Schultz (he has more quality in his disposals), but if Henry and Sturt step up then having Switta and Schultz as back up means we have decent players we can rely on to put in a shift when we need it.

I’m ambivalent about Bewley and Banfield, staying on and hope we’ve seen the last of Colyerin the 22 - but Schultz has done enough to earn a new contract for mine.

 

[Superkoops]

Put me in the perplexed about Banfield bracket. Seems like a ripping kid but he'll never have the "speed" for AFL football and I would have thought we were 100% better off taking a punt on someone else rather than carry him on the list. Guaranteed there will be kids who miss out this year that are drafted next year (or years down the track) and go to be handy players. Would rather spend a list spot on someone with 5% chance of making then someone we know isnt going to

Don’t disagree, but my point was some posters giving themselves coronary heart event over Banfield potentially getting a spot on the rookie list. If ever there is a year to have a crack a speculative rookie this is the year there will be some hidden gems well down the list. Keeping Banfield is definitely meh but also like whatever he gets the chance to prove the doubters wrong.

 

[Joao]

In my dreams, Banners and Hugh are competing for that last spot and Hugh wins.

The AFL just changed a rule requiring Key forwards to stay camped in the goal square. Makes sense to pick up Dixon again.

Dixon should be a CHF, much better kick and decision maker than the others.

 

[Bicco]

Let’s face it, we are desperate.

It's our own fault unfortunately.