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I finally agree with V'landys about something. Coaches are precisely the wrong people to talk to if you want to change the way a game is played.
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I finally agree with V'landys about something. Coaches are precisely the wrong people to talk to if you want to change the way a game is played.
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Though it can be handy sometimes in that
they can tell them how they would counter those changes which could possibly create more problems though maybe ex coaches are the ones who should have the input.
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They do have an international side though. As it’s turned out there is not really any reason the AFL couldn’t have started at the same time hence NRL good AFL bad.
In saying that we are only having a 17 round season regardless so it won’t get us anymore games so not a massive issue imo.
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"As it’s turned out there is not really any reason the AFL couldn’t have started at the same time hence NRL good AFL bad".
Except Borders are still closed and other restrictions in some states that have forced the AFL to start a little bit later.!
Except Borders are still closed and other restrictions in some states that have forced the AFL to start a little bit later.!
I can only admire the NRL for getting back as early as they did -full credit to them. But every year they start a couple of weeks before the AFL and it does not result in a ratings bonanza outside NSW and Queensland. Consequently I doubt there will be any more than a marginal increase in ratings.
Hell, I might be wrong, but I doubt it. Sometimes people in Sydney overstate just how popular the NRL is in other states, assuming it's like the AFL where they're from. When in reality it really is a blip.
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So is New Zealand. There are ways around it. The nrl done it better
Seems Roy the boy'' Masters is suggesting the AFL have a better TV deal than the NRL for what is left of 2020 & how is Mr V' going to explain it away.
Behind the paywall at this point, but May 28 is the day we were to know the NRL details:
'Peter V'landys has primed rugby league for the announcement of a reduced pay TV deal. But how will the clubs react if, as seems probable, the AFL is able to secure a superior result?'
IMHO the NRL should have gone with Origin first up.
Behind the paywall at this point, but May 28 is the day we were to know the NRL details:
'Peter V'landys has primed rugby league for the announcement of a reduced pay TV deal. But how will the clubs react if, as seems probable, the AFL is able to secure a superior result?'
IMHO the NRL should have gone with Origin first up.
I think the relevant point is that though he may be very pro "AFL" (the game) he is very anti-AFL (the executive / commission....but particularly the executive)
There is no way the AFL would have profited from the same belligerent approach of V'Landys...not to mention the much harder struggle with the AFL being a national competition (unlike the NRL)
Peter V'landys has primed rugby league for reduced pay TV deal with Foxtel
Peter V'landys has primed rugby league for the announcement of a reduced pay TV deal. But how will the clubs react if, as seems probable, the AFL is able to secure a superior result?
It's almost like when I said the NRL had found themselves in a much weaker bargaining position earlier in this thread.......I was right ;-)
Peter V'landys has primed rugby league for reduced pay TV deal with Foxtel
Peter V'landys has primed rugby league for the announcement of a reduced pay TV deal. But how will the clubs react if, as seems probable, the AFL is able to secure a superior result?www.smh.com.au
It's almost like when I said the NRL had found themselves in a much weaker bargaining position earlier in this thread.......I was right ;-)
& the NRL were behind to start with .... well done you ..... the detail FTA/Fox will be interesting IF it is a done deal
???& the NRL were behind to start with .... well done you ..... the detail FTA/Fox will be interesting IF it is a done deal
The first game is in 20 hours....how is there not a deal done?
No acknowledgement that I've seen, lots of bluster, did I miss something factual.
No, I suspect you haven't missed anything
The bottom line is there still appears to be no deal done and the first game is tomorrow
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NEWSFLASH
Roy Master predicts the AFL's TV deal will be bigger than the NRL's.
STOP THE PRESS
(where has he been the last 30 years)
Roy Master predicts the AFL's TV deal will be bigger than the NRL's.
STOP THE PRESS
(where has he been the last 30 years)
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I note the NRL who have never had an original idea of their own are going to copy the German Soccer by selling cardboard cuts outs of fans for $24 each to make up fake crowds!
They could actually leave them in place at stadiums like ANZ and the SCG permanently to cover the small crowds the get!
They could actually leave them in place at stadiums like ANZ and the SCG permanently to cover the small crowds the get!
To be fair, he's spent the last 30 years doing the same thing....insisting that the nrl is more valuable in between rights deals and then wringing his hands when they end up with less money
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True, and then express surprise....
A key point of difference in this latest round is that all of the Sydney media is falling over themselves to hail V'landys as the one who has brought the bacon home.
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1. The Australian J. Stensholt 28.5
News Corp. Australia will be cutting "hundreds of jobs" from 29.6. Other reports state "...about 1/3 of its Australian workforce may be cut".
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I'm unclear if these cuts are only from its newspaper/publishing Division- or across the whole of its Australian operations, including Foxtel etc.
This dos not bode well for the Fox Sports NRL new Rights' deal- & for the AFL.
2. SEN Melb. Radio Lyon & Watson program 28.5
G. Lyon described P. V'landys as "...one of Australia's best sport administrators".
(To appreciate the cataclysmic financial etc. position of the covid-19 hit NRL, I suggest you read P. Rothfield's description of the DISASTROUS state of the NRL in my above post#975. Rothfield said up to 6 NRL clubs could have folded etc.
Or is Rothfield, employed by News Corp, "softening-up" NRL fans for a big cut in Foxtel etc. new Rights' $, which will "save" a 16 team comp.?).
3. SEN Melb. Radio S. Edmond program 28.5
Former Socceroo, & current media soccer commentator, C. Bolton says that Fox Sports is playing hardball over a new Rights' deal (The old deal- which had 3 more years left-was $45m pa cash, + advertising contra, + c. $5m extra pa when the A League creates 2 new Melb./Syd. teams has been voided by Fox Sports- claiming Force Majeure).
Bolton disputes MSM reports that Fox Sports might offer $25m pa for a new Rights' deal. He said that he has been told that Fox Sports "...is only offering $19m pa". (I'm not sure if this figure only includes cash, not advertising "free' contra).
Bolton also said, the A League, due to its dire financial situation, "might return as a semi-professional state only...The A League could fold, but I don't think that will happen".
4. The Australian B. Read 22.5
The NRL HQ & administration/NRL programs will be cut by $50m. NRL clubs will have more direct involvement in running the NRL- & will also be involved in deciding where the NRL HQ $50m cuts will be made.
(Will the HQ cuts be a massive $50m pa- or over several years? Will NRL H/Q cut its GR spending?).
www.theaustralian.com.au
5. The Western Force, bankrolled by billionaire A. Forrest, will be part of the new, domestic-only pro RU comp. in Australia, with the Aust. ex Super Rugby etc. RU clubs.
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6. SMH A Webster 23.5
V'landys said, re the NRL's pre March 2020 finances
"And the cash that was there was bullshit because we owed $80m (my emphasis) to the broadcasters. Of the $104m we had, we only had $30 m or so. To the broadcasters' credit, they haven't called on that money. If they did, we were stuffed".
What is this $80m that the NRL owed? Has this been detailed before in the MSM?
V'landys also said, re the new, impending Rights' deal
" I'm getting no less than what I was prepared to take before the coronavirus came in. It's a good deal for us". Really?
He again suggests the NRL interchange needs to be reduced, to bring back more light weight skillful players- & make the NRL more free flowing & exciting.
www.smh.com.au
Later on 24.5, V'landys also said the NRL salary cap would remain at $9.9m from 2021 pa ie no cuts. A coup for the players, if this eventuates.
News Corp. Australia will be cutting "hundreds of jobs" from 29.6. Other reports state "...about 1/3 of its Australian workforce may be cut".
News Corp Australia set to axe hundreds of jobs
The publishing company is expected to cut up to a third of its staff as it pivots towards digital publishing, sources told The Guardian, The Australian Financial Review and The Sydney Morning Herald. In a media release, Executive Chairman of News Corp Australasia Michael Miller confirmed that...
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I'm unclear if these cuts are only from its newspaper/publishing Division- or across the whole of its Australian operations, including Foxtel etc.
This dos not bode well for the Fox Sports NRL new Rights' deal- & for the AFL.
2. SEN Melb. Radio Lyon & Watson program 28.5
G. Lyon described P. V'landys as "...one of Australia's best sport administrators".
(To appreciate the cataclysmic financial etc. position of the covid-19 hit NRL, I suggest you read P. Rothfield's description of the DISASTROUS state of the NRL in my above post#975. Rothfield said up to 6 NRL clubs could have folded etc.
Or is Rothfield, employed by News Corp, "softening-up" NRL fans for a big cut in Foxtel etc. new Rights' $, which will "save" a 16 team comp.?).
3. SEN Melb. Radio S. Edmond program 28.5
Former Socceroo, & current media soccer commentator, C. Bolton says that Fox Sports is playing hardball over a new Rights' deal (The old deal- which had 3 more years left-was $45m pa cash, + advertising contra, + c. $5m extra pa when the A League creates 2 new Melb./Syd. teams has been voided by Fox Sports- claiming Force Majeure).
Bolton disputes MSM reports that Fox Sports might offer $25m pa for a new Rights' deal. He said that he has been told that Fox Sports "...is only offering $19m pa". (I'm not sure if this figure only includes cash, not advertising "free' contra).
Bolton also said, the A League, due to its dire financial situation, "might return as a semi-professional state only...The A League could fold, but I don't think that will happen".
4. The Australian B. Read 22.5
The NRL HQ & administration/NRL programs will be cut by $50m. NRL clubs will have more direct involvement in running the NRL- & will also be involved in deciding where the NRL HQ $50m cuts will be made.
(Will the HQ cuts be a massive $50m pa- or over several years? Will NRL H/Q cut its GR spending?).
NoCookies | The Australian
5. The Western Force, bankrolled by billionaire A. Forrest, will be part of the new, domestic-only pro RU comp. in Australia, with the Aust. ex Super Rugby etc. RU clubs.
EDIT:
6. SMH A Webster 23.5
V'landys said, re the NRL's pre March 2020 finances
"And the cash that was there was bullshit because we owed $80m (my emphasis) to the broadcasters. Of the $104m we had, we only had $30 m or so. To the broadcasters' credit, they haven't called on that money. If they did, we were stuffed".
What is this $80m that the NRL owed? Has this been detailed before in the MSM?
V'landys also said, re the new, impending Rights' deal
" I'm getting no less than what I was prepared to take before the coronavirus came in. It's a good deal for us". Really?
He again suggests the NRL interchange needs to be reduced, to bring back more light weight skillful players- & make the NRL more free flowing & exciting.
Q&A: V'landys on Murdoch, Politis, Greenberg, Marks and 'rugba league'
The ARL Commission chairman goes one-on-one with the Herald before the competition restart on May 28.
Later on 24.5, V'landys also said the NRL salary cap would remain at $9.9m from 2021 pa ie no cuts. A coup for the players, if this eventuates.
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4. The Australian B.Read 22.5
The NRL HQ & administration/NRL programs will be cut by $50m. NRL clubs will have more direct involvement in running the NRL- & will also be involved in deciding where the NRL cuts will be made.
(Will the HQ cuts be a massive $50m pa- or over several years? Will NRL H/Q cut its GR spending?).
NoCookies | The Australian
Wowee, so the NRL is moving further still away from an independent commission!
How much do you think the bullying of the ARL into the 130% funding of the salary cap to clubs (that saw to commissioners resign) come under review?
I think Masters genuinely believes rugby league is getting gypped each time though.
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Roy masters, at it again!!
Gotta love this nuffie, the LU guys are buying this crap hook line and sinker, what i dont get is why would a high ranking executive from a major network confide in roy that his company wants league, wants it badly and will pay anything for it?, doesnt make sense to me, what will it be next...
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A sports VC for a corporate CV: why TV rights are everything for CEOs
Raelene Castle has a CV that is the envy of any sports chief executive. But she has allowed Rugby Australia's next broadcasting deal to define her career.
This is my favourite from as recently as december last year!
Overall, AFL consumes more hours (277.9m), compared to the NRL (190m), but rugby league is the most valuable sport in Australia....by half and not quarters.
Changing the rules: How the NRL and AFL are chasing the TV dollar
It would seem Australia’s two main football codes are heading in different directions.www.smh.com.au
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WE shouldn't forget that the slowing dying News Corp and to a lesser extent CH 9 control a big % of the Media in both Melbourne and Sydney so you can take with a grain of salt a lot of their puff piece so called reporting!
Of course they are both stroking V'Landys giant ego to get what they want!
Of course they are both stroking V'Landys giant ego to get what they want!
Mr V' sees himself as a benevolent dictator, thats his role at Racing NSW (i.e his day job is CEO is that body) & its been successful there.
He's a bit like Eddie at Collingwood (whats the name of their CEO?).
Its on 9.
& Fox:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...e/news-story/2fb113b37d705f4b7df7548c0f579fe1
Dont know the details on exclusivity pre covid to understand any changes.
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