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Say what you want about Nick Kyrgios, but his match v Nadal on day 8 outwatched everything else at the Aussie Open, including a very good 5 set final.

The first 4 on that list are all men's only matches, with D7 being Barty and Federer. Over in the US, the women final/semis normally outdraw the men's final and semi. This is because of the Serena factor, mainly. But Barty is over 1 million behind down here. Sometimes, being "boring" and a pro does not get the eyes on the tellie.

Edit: we also say that day 12 is missing off this list. That day had no Fed, Nadal or Novak on it. It is an issue in tennis regarding how to replace those superstars which transcend the sport.
 
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Gold Coast Titans' Assistant Coach M. Gordon has been arrested & charged by police with major drug trafficking offences.

D. Wielder has claimed that former GC coach G. Brennan warned GC managers against hiring Gordon (& problems with some others in the GC Club), due to Gordon's influence & "cultural problems" (not specified)- but GC still decided to hire Gordon.
Wielder also states that GC management are not being open with the media, & avoiding it, on all the issues surrounding M. Gordon.


There are current rape etc. trials occuring against current NRL players J. De Belin & T. Sailor- & former star J. Hayne.

Former Sth Sydney star S. Burgess is facing charges of physically assaulting his 7 month pregnant wife, & physically threatening her father- also misuse & deception re drug testing & medical scripts. Also, a South Sydney RL Club doctor illegally assisting conspiring to hide Burgess alleged use of illegal drugs.

None of the above have been found guilty.

Former Parramatta player A. Junior Paulo was sentenced to 17 years in jail in August for major drug dealing.

Whilst all sports (inc. the AFL) have occasional experience with players being investigated, charged or convicted of serious crimes, it appears to be much more common in the NRL.
Previously, sponsors have cancelled their funding, aware that the NRL is facing severe reputational damage.
Well apart from the on going sagas with Fat Andy Demitriou, druggie Ben Cousins, and cross dresser Dean Laidley, plus Lachie Hunter and Jordan De Goey off the top of my head we are not doing to bad
 
Well apart from the on going sagas with Fat Andy Demitriou, druggie Ben Cousins, and cross dresser Dean Laidley, plus Lachie Hunter and Jordan De Goey off the top of my head we are not doing to bad
The AFL players don't seem to be the assault/bashers of women that the NRL players are!
 
AFL supporters are in no position to criticise the NRL for it's players' off-field indiscretions. 2 of the greatest to ever play AFL (both some argue are THE greatest) in Gary Ablett Snr and Wayne Carey were both involved in extremely distasteful off-field incidents involving women. Sure, the NRL might have "more" scandals every year but it doesn't change the fact the AFL has it's fair share of the same sort of stuff.
 
AFL supporters are in no position to criticise the NRL for it's players' off-field indiscretions. 2 of the greatest to ever play AFL (both some argue are THE greatest) in Gary Ablett Snr and Wayne Carey were both involved in extremely distasteful off-field incidents involving women. Sure, the NRL might have "more" scandals every year but it doesn't change the fact the AFL has it's fair share of the same sort of stuff.

Just fodder for the peanut gallery.
 
Men's cricket has had a great ratings start to the season, peaking as high as 448k for last night's match. To put that in context, only 6 FTA shows outrated.
 

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Men's cricket has had a great ratings start to the season, peaking as high as 448k for last night's match. To put that in context, only 6 FTA shows outrated.

Fox Sports has recorded enormous numbers in the opening two ODI matches, with 544,000 average viewers for Sunday’s second game at the SCG, smashing records as the highest ever rating ODI on subscription TV, eclipsing the 2015 World Cup final.
 
Men's cricket has had a great ratings start to the season, peaking as high as 448k for last night's match. To put that in context, only 6 FTA shows outrated.

'Fox Sports has recorded enormous numbers in the opening two ODI matches, with 544,000 average viewers for Sunday’s second game at the SCG, smashing records as the highest ever rating ODI on subscription TV, eclipsing the 2015 World Cup final.'

Things arent going so well in the FTA market with 7 with legal action underway:

'Cricket Australia’s original schedule for the summer had slated the season would launch with Test matches against Afghanistan and India, which are broadcast on Seven and Fox Sports.
But a change was made which flipped the formats around to instead kick-off with the white ball series against India which is exclusively shown by Fox.
Channel 7 claim this change was driven by the BCCI, and has hurt Seven’s product because they’ve had to wait until December 17 to launch a major summer against drawcards India and means there will be no international build up for the BBL before it kicks off on December 10.

Channel 7 will argue CA has shown preferential treatment to Fox Sports as a partner, by agreeing to switch the schedule and allow Fox an exclusive platform to launch the summer.'

 
'Fox Sports has recorded enormous numbers in the opening two ODI matches, with 544,000 average viewers for Sunday’s second game at the SCG, smashing records as the highest ever rating ODI on subscription TV, eclipsing the 2015 World Cup final.'

Things arent going so well in the FTA market with 7 with legal action underway:

'Cricket Australia’s original schedule for the summer had slated the season would launch with Test matches against Afghanistan and India, which are broadcast on Seven and Fox Sports.
But a change was made which flipped the formats around to instead kick-off with the white ball series against India which is exclusively shown by Fox.
Channel 7 claim this change was driven by the BCCI, and has hurt Seven’s product because they’ve had to wait until December 17 to launch a major summer against drawcards India and means there will be no international build up for the BBL before it kicks off on December 10.

Channel 7 will argue CA has shown preferential treatment to Fox Sports as a partner, by agreeing to switch the schedule and allow Fox an exclusive platform to launch the summer.'

fairly certain it was 7 who didn't buy the rights of the ODI. AND, it ignores the WBBL and the fact that Afghanistan are still not India. IIRC, this happened in previous years as well. That the ODI started the summer. So it is not like it is new.

Only themselves to blame. It is a TV contract which is helping neither the sport nor the FTA channel. Only Fox is happy.
 
It is a TV contract which is helping neither the sport nor the FTA channel.
It helped fund a ~700% increase to the female player payment pool. Anybody who doesn't think that's good for the sport, hasn't been paying attention for the last four years, and they are certainly in no position to accuse others of being short-sighted.

People on the cricket board the other day were also still acting like hundreds of millions of more dollars are something to sneeze at. Or that CA should be the only sporting body confined to FTA television.
 
It helped fund a ~700% increase to the female player payment pool. Anybody who doesn't think that's good for the sport, hasn't been paying attention for the last four years, and they are certainly in no position to accuse others of being short-sighted.

People on the cricket board the other day were also still acting like hundreds of millions of more dollars are something to sneeze at. Or that CA should be the only sporting body confined to FTA television.

Seven are not taking this action lightly.
It is interesting beyond just cricket, a verdict in favour of TV has ramnifications for sports generally.

Equally interesting will be the reaction of the player union.
 
Seven are not taking this action lightly.
It is interesting beyond just cricket, a verdict in favour of TV has ramnifications for sports generally.

Equally interesting will be the reaction of the player union.
Oooh ominous. But wait, Seven haven't even started tweeting in capital letters and posting doctored photos yet, how serious could they be.
Not very interesting at all, the other two major sports already negotiated discounts.

By the way, your response had nothing to do with what I was talking about.
 
Oooh ominous. But wait, Seven haven't even started tweeting in capital letters and posting doctored photos yet, how serious could they be.
Not very interesting at all, the other two major sports already negotiated discounts.

By the way, your response had nothing to do with what I was talking about.
A plain question for anybody - Will the Aus v India cricket be shown on CH7 FTA after the current series on Fox is over. My wife is a cricket nut and was not happy when current matches were not on FTA.
 
Oooh ominous. But wait, Seven haven't even started tweeting in capital letters and posting doctored photos yet, how serious could they be.
Not very interesting at all, the other two major sports already negotiated discounts.

By the way, your response had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

You werent talking about the TV money? Good luck with your projects.

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A plain question for anybody - Will the Aus v India cricket be shown on CH7 FTA after the current series on Fox is over. My wife is a cricket nut and was not happy when current matches were not on FTA.
The Test series will be on Seven.

You werent talking about the TV money?
I was talking about the TV money coming from Foxtel's exclusive rights for certain series.

Weren't the ODIs on Fox last season as well?
Yes, and the season before that.
 
It helped fund a ~700% increase to the female player payment pool. Anybody who doesn't think that's good for the sport, hasn't been paying attention for the last four years, and they are certainly in no position to accuse others of being short-sighted.

People on the cricket board the other day were also still acting like hundreds of millions of more dollars are something to sneeze at. Or that CA should be the only sporting body confined to FTA television.
Money is not everything. Ask anyone in England how Sky's monopoly has done to cricket in England. There is nothing wrong with pay tv. But a balance needs to be maintained. 500K watching pay-tv is fantastic. But if that was on FTA, people would be calling it the death of cricket.

I don't think 9\10's offer was that bad. 900 mil over 6 years, 150 a year for FTA coverage, with clearly defined boundaries on who gets what. And 10 did a very good job promoting the BBL. 30 mil a year is quite a lot but I don't think it was worth the lawyers or bad press and lack of coverage for the "common" man.
 
Money is not everything. Ask anyone in England how Sky's monopoly has done to cricket in England. There is nothing wrong with pay tv. But a balance needs to be maintained. 500K watching pay-tv is fantastic. But if that was on FTA, people would be calling it the death of cricket.

I don't think 9\10's offer was that bad. 900 mil over 6 years, 150 a year for FTA coverage, with clearly defined boundaries on who gets what. And 10 did a very good job promoting the BBL. 30 mil a year is quite a lot but I don't think it was worth the lawyers or bad press and lack of coverage for the "common" man.

You need to weigh the ability to pay the money that athletes believe they are worth. FTA is not the money tree it was once & there are few signs anything is changing there.
In Australia the problems of FTA is not recognised by the multitude of fans who want top level sport for nothing.
 

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