List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

Delisted;
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Traded;
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Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
3. Zak Jones

3

Zak Jones

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.1

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

4.9

5star

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

CL

1.0

3star

- Link
6. Sebastian Ross

6

Sebastian Ross

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.3

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

2.1

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

(RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
15. Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder

18

Patrick Ryder

Age

37

Ht

197cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

19.3

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

21.8

5star

D

4.4

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

1.2

2star

HO

3.0

5star

- Link
24. James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
38. Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link
42. Max Heath

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

- Link
45. Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


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List & Contract Status

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[Diehard Saint]

.... if we are going to chase him i hope its for the right reason not because his is a local boy and mates with someone

Well... Sincs was mates with Billings, and look at him now

 

[CaptainRisky]

Well... Sincs was mates with Billings, and look at him now

Swallow Summer ,,,,,,,,

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Hanneberys contract was extremely front loaded. He is only on about 400k next year

$400K too much.

 

[t_94]

They don’t rate him because they think he’ll leave.


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looks along way off at this stage

 

[KingsRansom]

$400K too much.

We've been a better "team" with him around. Saints have had alot worse contracts than his. Fact is, when we are a flag threat, he will be wound down. Better paying him big coin than most of the others on the list when we got hin

 

[Remboy]

On our shopping list this year are a few things.

1. A youngish but best 22 KPD.
2. A developing ruck (dependent on Hunter’s season)
3. A star mid.

You have to remember that we are getting a hell of a lot of money off the books this year. Carlisle, Dunstan, Geary, Roberton will all be gone plus youcould possibly throw in Ross and Webster. Also we only have next year of Hanners shocking contract to pay as he can’t reach his trigger for the fifth season now which is a huge relief.
I think we will be already into the ear of a couple of mids, we think we are just a couple of pieces short of really contending hard.

Is the mention of Ross based on anything you know or just a stab in the dark?

 

[CaptainRisky]

$400K too much.

Harsh ,,, 300K too much

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Is the mention of Ross based on anything you know or just a stab in the dark?

Free Agent and has dropped well down the rungs as a mid. Will probably look around but doesn’t mean he’ll leave.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

We've been a better "team" with him around. Saints have had alot worse contracts than his. Fact is, when we are a flag threat, he will be wound down. Better paying him big coin than most of the others on the list when we got hin

Yeah I don’t buy this. We’ve paid him nearly $2M for 13 games. No amount of jokes around the locker room is worth that.
We need to just own that it was a shit trade, but we’ve got nearly every other one right since then.

 

[bird_man]

Watching Caldwell the other night made me more disappointed we missed out on him.

Looking at our side now though I can understand his decision to choose Essendon. Our midfield depth is as good as anyones.

The Crouch decision most likely spooked him. Crouch cost us nothing in draft picks so we can't complain. It's going to be interesting watching his career though as it's top end talent in the midfield that we need.

 

[Joffaboy]

Yeah I don’t buy this. We’ve paid him nearly $2M for 13 games. No amount of jokes around the locker room is worth that.
We need to just own that it was a sh*t trade, but we’ve got nearly every other one right since then.

Purely in terms of playing, yes, but he was the first big name signing, then came the five, then last year. He was an instigator IMO and the season is yet to start so wont write him off yet.

 

[Jay Beast]

Bit difficult to know the total impact of Hanners coming across i.e. how much did it contribute to other FA's coming over or training pitch standards?
Clearly terrible for his games return to date although he was huge in the final against the Dogs.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Now Frawley out for 10 weeks , geez we need some young blokes who dont break down

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

Now Frawley out for 10 weeks , geez we need some young blokes who dont break down

oof

 

[gringo2011]

On our shopping list this year are a few things.

1. A youngish but best 22 KPD.
2. A developing ruck (dependent on Hunter’s season)
3. A star mid.

You have to remember that we are getting a hell of a lot of money off the books this year. Carlisle, Dunstan, Geary, Roberton will all be gone plus youcould possibly throw in Ross and Webster. Also we only have next year of Hanners shocking contract to pay as he can’t reach his trigger for the fifth season now which is a huge relief.
I think we will be already into the ear of a couple of mids, we think we are just a couple of pieces short of really contending hard.

Do the mid's names rhyme with Mac Zerret and Kosh Jelly?

 

[gringo2011]

Taranto

What would he cost though?

 

[Premium]

What would he cost though?

Taranto would be great , but telling the truth with Steele , Crouch , Hunter Clark , Gresham most of the midfield time would be used up by these guys then throw in Jones , Higgins , Sinclair and Bytel really I would attempt to find a young key defender.

It just shows how brillant the Howard trade was , being able to pick up Howard was a masterstroke by our recruiters - finding AFL quality key defenders is as hard as finding key forwards and we were able to pull off both with King and Howard.

 

[KingsRansom]

It just shows how brillant the Howard trade was , being able to pick up Howard was a masterstroke by our recruiters - finding AFL quality key defenders is as hard as finding key forwards and we were able to pull off both with King and Howard.

Kane Cornes was absolutely bleeding when he was traded to us hahaha

 

[BrutThough]

People are over estimating how much we would have in our salary cap at the end of the season. Of those mentioned above, Carlisle and Geary would be on very little. Dunstan on an average amount and Robbo's contract was likely front loaded considering on when he signed it.

Doubt we have the money to be going around throwing it at another Free Agent midfielder when that's far form our biggest need right now.

 

[St Neil]

Watching Caldwell the other night made me more disappointed we missed out on him.

Looking at our side now though I can understand his decision to choose Essendon. Our midfield depth is as good as anyones.

The Crouch decision most likely spooked him. Crouch cost us nothing in draft picks so we can't complain. It's going to be interesting watching his career though as it's top end talent in the midfield that we need.

If we’d traded-in Caldwell then I doubt we would’ve been able to trade for Jack Higgins. We wouldn’t have had the draft capital to get it done.

It’s an interesting one. I think Caldwell will be a very good player, but I’m pleased with what I’ve seen of Higgins. He’s going to be a dynamic player for us and he seems to love the club.

It could be one of those scenarios where both players are good for us but we couldn’t have them both.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

People are over estimating how much we would have in our salary cap at the end of the season. Of those mentioned above, Carlisle and Geary would be on very little. Dunstan on an average amount and Robbo's contract was likely front loaded considering on when he signed it.

Doubt we have the money to be going around throwing it at another Free Agent midfielder when that's far form our biggest need right now.

“Very little”. Geary is on $500K, Carlisle is on $300K, Dunstan $400K and Robbo will make nearly $700K (its complex though as he gets an injury lump sum payment as well). Throw in Webster $400K, Ross $600K and it’s easy to see how we will in fact have a lot of spare money if some of those players leave. Obviously we need to keep in mind that we have a few coming out of contract too that will eat up a chunk of money.

 

[Mowman]

“Very little”. Geary is on $500K, Carlisle is on $300K, Dunstan $400K and Robbo will make nearly $700K (its complex though as he gets an injury lump sum payment as well). Throw in Webster $400K, Ross $600K and it’s easy to see how we will in fact have a lot of spare money if some of those players leave. Obviously we need to keep in mind that we have a few coming out of contract too that will eat up a chunk of money.

Geary is not on 500k

 

[bird_man]

If we’d traded-in Caldwell then I doubt we would’ve been able to trade for Jack Higgins. We wouldn’t have had the draft capital to get it done.

It’s an interesting one. I think Caldwell will be a very good player, but I’m pleased with what I’ve seen of Higgins. He’s going to be a dynamic player for us and he seems to love the club.

It could be one of those scenarios where both players are good for us but we couldn’t have them both.

Can't see why we couldn't have got Caldwell and Higgins tbh.

We still had a first rounder in the draft after the Higgins trade.

Think it was more to do with what he wanted rather than how we could get it done.

In the end we got a mature big bodied mid that can come in and help us compete now and he didn't cost us a draft pick so I'm not complaining.

 

[bird_man]

Geary is not on 500k

What's he on?

 

[triggering bro]

Surely Billings 800k contract will get a decent haircut